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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 27 2014 23:01 GMT
#19
/In

Hehehe ray!
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 28 2014 05:47 GMT
#25
banks is in every game...
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 28 2014 09:11 GMT
#34
we got em boys
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 28 2014 09:16 GMT
#35
its me simba, robik
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 28 2014 09:53 GMT
#39
lololol, that would be hilarious, game ends before they come on
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 28 2014 20:09 GMT
#56
im vigi-medic, its a new role, they put in this game, its important to note that both of these roles are town!
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 29 2014 20:10 GMT
#79
i'm just gonna give some gut reads from reading through the thread.

Top Town
Robik

Town:
ChairmanRay
EchelonTee
sinani

TopScum:
StrongandBig

Scum:
AlakaSlam
thePoofter


nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 30 2014 09:17 GMT
#104
honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 30 2014 21:25 GMT
#138
i would love it if people would post a list detailing all of their reads in a semi-comprehensive format, this way we have all the reads in one place, and its easier to tell exactly what people are thinking. Also catching scum later on in the game its easier to see how their logic has changed in order to see inconsistancy.

So without further ado, i shall go first!

Snickers:

On June 30 2014 11:30 Snickers wrote:
When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.


really not a fan of this post and the one beforehand. It seems like he's being super try-hard. Not a big fan of him insulting people this early on in the game before things have really gotten serious. However the fact that he's being super try hard makes me think he could be town. However, i wouldn't mind lynching him just because it seems like he's a jerk, and i feel like i would have more fun playing without him. I also don't like snickers chocolate bars.

EchelonTee:
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On June 30 2014 19:09 EchelonTee wrote:
I'd be happy with an MM lynch.

Posting list of reads isn't inherently scummy but I don't know why you said this
On June 30 2014 18:17 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.

when you weren't really under much pressure. It's like you're trying to avoid ownership over them. That reticence is scummy to me.

I also agree that him exclusing Snickers from the list calling him "nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game" is pretty fn weird considering how much he was talking.

##Vote: MysteryMeat1



Honestly i'm not a fan of EchelonTee, In a IML setting i feel like people who vote earlier are actually more scummy. For a mafia to be one of the last people to vote it's too obvious, I may have contributed a list of my gut reads, but i still view that as a considerable contribution to town. It also prompted more discusion instead of people posting very little. Which i am quite satisfied with.

leaning scum:

StrongandBig:

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On June 30 2014 23:37 strongandbig wrote:
I would lynch:

- snickers, for srs this time.
(1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least.
(2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it:

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On June 30 2014 11:00 Snickers wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote:
Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you


Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.


I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.

Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.

Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.

Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird)
StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at)
Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)

Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.


This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image.

A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top?

But right now I'd rather lynch snickers.


I really really like strongandbig for this post. He's asking serious questions and trying to get the game figured out. Also doesn't like snickers for the same reasons. We both got the try hard feeling from snickers but camae to slightly different conclusions. I like his questioning of me and why i put robik as top town. I've played with robik on dailymafia, and the games that i've played with robik when he's super trolly like this he usually ends up VT. I'm really only giving him a day pass, and i expect him to start contributing more d2 or n1

overall: town

Sinami:

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On July 01 2014 05:08 sinani206 wrote:
lol

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?user=Chairman Ray

first day of a majority lynch game

ok

##Vote: Chairman Ray



I really don't like sinami, his filter is literally useless, quotes some post of Ray going /in and then goes alirhgt and votes for him.

leaning very scummy.

Chairman Ray:
I like his posts alot, they have a good mix of trolliness but also comes back to the game to ask serious questions and figure it out. I'm not sure how i like the deflection off of snickers. With only two mafia, i doubt you would ever want to bus d1.
very town: however if snickers ever gets lynched and flips red then i would take a look at Ray.

Slam:
something about Slam's post just rubs me the wrong way.

On June 30 2014 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:
MysteryMeat

Y

List post with no explanation is usually seen as scummy. EZ2FAKE

If you think something is scummy you should call it out as scummy, not go its usually seen as scummy, in order to try and put it into other peoples heads. I feel like Slam is trying to very subtly push his agenda without being overly obvious about it. He then switches his vote from snickers to me. And asks me why am i mafia with snicker. If he really believes snicker's is scum why is he switching his vote. I also just hate his posting style (lololo ) and the fact that he keeps on claiming hypocrisy. however i really hate people who push on people for stuff like inconsistancies, and get caught up in keeping everything straight as possible.

Gut feeling and after seeing his other posts, leaning mafia stil:

Robik:
I explained in strongandbigs profile, but it was more of a joke that i called him top town, its pretty much an obvious attempt to pocket him this early.

thepoofter:
Every forum game i've played with him or watched him play, he comes out of the gates super hard and just spews town all over everyones faces and keyboards. The fact that he hasn't I think is also very scummy of him. However i will give him the benefit of the doubt, as i think he's playing like 3 mafia forum games atm and playing video mafia at the same time.

I feel like i got everyone, if anyone has any questions please ask. Ill be back a few hours before voting ends.


"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
June 30 2014 21:28 GMT
#139
to clarify, when i mention inconsistancy its more along the lines of you thought he was town at this point and then this point you thought he was mafia, what occured that made your read changed in this time frame. I like those kinds of questions not, you talked about htis person but not this person lets lynch him type of inconsistancies.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
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