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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:33 GMT
#1101
Snickers, I skimmed through your filter and I still don't understand it. Why do you think Koshi is so town? Is it because he is to scummy to be scum?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#1102
Why did the thread suddenly die? I quite dislike the thought of me dying ; (
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 23 2014 21:51 GMT
#1103
On June 24 2014 06:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis and Release, you are spending far to much effort on associations between unflipped players.

I'm back and I agree with this.
So does anyone have an actual good reason why Koshi is town?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 23 2014 21:51 GMT
#1104
Want to talk with me?
I had a good night of sleep.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1105
How the heck am I the one one to comment on that and how the heck does ve forgot his first day post. On he was not strong on it then. Wow Lazermonkey is making the choice a lot harder for me. If ve and lazer monkey are scum, lazer monkey trying to stop us from consolidating.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 23 2014 21:53 GMT
#1106
On June 24 2014 06:51 Koshi wrote:
Want to talk with me?

Why do you consider VE town when you don't know Lazer's alignment and VE has acted, in your opinion, scummily in his own right?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1107
Sure Koshi, are you cool with killing VE instead? You seemed to have a couple of arguments that would imply that he is scum. Also look at my filter. Or YKZ filter for that matter.

But yhea. What do you think about that VE hasn't said shit since he was about to get lynched? And by not saying shit I mean that he hasn't taken any stance what so ever. Just defending himself, saying that YKZ is scum and that I am scum.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1108
On June 24 2014 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why did the thread suddenly die? I quite dislike the thought of me dying ; (

Then why don't you save yourself and kills VE?

You have the power to vote.

Or you can keep VE alive and die in his place, so that VE and me can die tonight together to fullfill the prophecy! Best ending EVER!!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1109
Koshi is town because of how bad his play continual is. Look at his first scum reads as me release and somebody else because we did not vote together. He's not pushing the thread or helping much but what do you expect from a bad town player. More on this later.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:55 GMT
#1110
On June 24 2014 06:52 Snickers wrote:
How the heck am I the one one to comment on that and how the heck does ve forgot his first day post. On he was not strong on it then. Wow Lazermonkey is making the choice a lot harder for me. If ve and lazer monkey are scum, lazer monkey trying to stop us from consolidating.

I am sorry, I may be stupid but I really don't get what you mean. Can you please explain this to me like if I was 5 years old?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 23 2014 21:56 GMT
#1111
On June 24 2014 06:54 Snickers wrote:
Koshi is town because of how bad his play continual is. Look at his first scum reads as me release and somebody else because we did not vote together. He's not pushing the thread or helping much but what do you expect from a bad town player. More on this later.

Your argument fails because Koshi is a good town player and a decent scum player, though he hates playing scum so I'd expect his play to be more variable in that regard.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1112
On June 24 2014 06:54 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why did the thread suddenly die? I quite dislike the thought of me dying ; (

Then why don't you save yourself and kills VE?

You have the power to vote.

Or you can keep VE alive and die in his place, so that VE and me can die tonight together to fullfill the prophecy! Best ending EVER!!!!

I can vote VE but since he was first at 4 votes it doesn't make much of a diference. Why do you think I am scum? Also why am I a BETTER target than say VE or Koshi.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1113
On June 22 2014 05:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
I will try to explain my actions yesterday as best as I can in this post. But it will hopefully be the only time I talk about the subject. I'm not under direct threat to get lynched as it seems and I'd rather spend my time trying to find scum.

I have been busy, more busy than I thought I was going to be. I didn't have time to analyze the players in the game good enough and went into stubborn-tunnel-townie-mode. As a result, my read on Mderg was wrong and it is a fair assumption that alot of my other reads are completely wrong also. I will therefore try to spend alot of time to figure shit out. Sadly, I still don't have much time today but both tomorrow and the day after that I will have lots of time to spare.

In summary: I sucked yesterday but tomorrow I will try not to suck.

@Koshi

I did consolidate D2. I did it far to late though but at the time of my second last post before lynch, it weren't obvious that the lynch would be between YKZ and mderg. Even if you don't believe me, how does me not consolidating make me scum...? If you are town (which you may actually be since I suck) then you are probably just butthurt since I was tunneling you so hard.

Doesn't explain other than what was already strongly implied. Expected some master read or something.

On June 23 2014 02:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 01:35 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 01:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 01:27 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 00:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 00:46 Koshi wrote:
Yes. Belgium playing soon so let's all cheer together. Nobody likes Russians anyway.

Okay, lets consider some facts.

You are obviously active since you answered both of my posts within 5 minutes.

I am your biggest scum read.

Alot of people (read: not a majority) don't want to kill me.

If I were in your shoes (assuming that you are town now), I know what I would've done. I would've pushed the fuck out of that Lazermonkey-basterd. You on the other hand, seem okay with just leaving your vote on me and chilling. Why are you not pushing me? Why not push SlOosh?

How should I push you? Please tell me how my case on you should look like.

Why should I tell you how should get me lynched? I'm not voting myself.

I am voting you because you did nothing else but talk about me D2 while there was a lot of things happening. I do not understand what you want me to do more. Please explain to me how I am not pushing you enough. I told everybody why I am voting you.

How is that reread from D2 going? It seems like you still think I should be pushed over anybody else. You got nothing at all from D2? Or do you have new evidence against me. Let's talk about that.

Because from where I am sitting you are still scumreading me for not doing enough. This time not doing enough to push you. It's getting boring.

Okay, you clearly don't get the point I'm trying to make so I'll be as clear as I can.

First off, I'm over halfway done with my reread. I don't have you as my top scum read anymore (though I still have some pages left so that is subject to change), although I still think you are suspicious. More about this later though.

Yes, I don't think anyone has missed the point that you are voting me. But I never said anything about that. Even if we pretend that you are town and that BOTH me and SlOosh are scum then you are still useless if you cannot get the rest of the town to vote us. Right now, I'm not getting lynched. Why are "done" with the pushing me? If you wanted me to die, wouldn't you push me and try to get me lynched? Wouldn't you try to convince those who say that I'm probably town that they are wrong, that their arguments are flawed and what not?

Last but not least: you can respond to this all you want but I'm not very interested in discussing this topic with you. I don't think you'll vote yourself. I want everyone else to respond and give their thoughts about you. That's why I write this.

His thoughts exist for town to consider. He's bad for being done, and you counter by being "done" with him. Very verbose, and very useless.

On June 23 2014 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Lazer, one interesting tidbit in that is that once we switched to Snickers, BH became complacent about whether Snickers or mderg should be lynched and even resisted switching back to mderg at first. It wasn't a very strong kind of resistance, but resistance nonetheless.

Which makes alot of sense given that YKZ is town don't you think?

I understand that there is a possibility that YKZ is scum and it was a clear exaggeration to say that YKZ was "110% town!". Yet it does become hard to justify a YKZ scum read. It seems like you and SlOosh are implying that there is a possibilty that YKZ is scum. But I see very little evidence that YKZ actually is scum. And even less that would make him a better alternative than SlOosh, VE or Koshi aka players that have done real scummy stuff.

How do you explain why he started pushing the case against mderg so hard when there was many other possible targets?

How do you explain that the restistance wasn't bigger for switching back to mderg?

Etc.

Considering the post made 23 minutes earlier, this is not very useful.

On June 23 2014 19:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
I love how Release here-is-why-you-shouldn't-vote-for-SlOosh post basically goes something like this:

He did alot of good things D1 like
-Bla
-Blablabla
-bLaBLaBLaBLaBLA
-etc

and he did the same D2 and D3.


This is not how you evaluate if someone is scum or not. You don't even mention the fact that SlOosh was the dude that soft defended mderg through all of D1 and D2.

You don't even mention how he, during D1, never said anything in particular about what made him think mderg wasn't a possible lynch candidate other than "his posts are consistent". Yet he never says why they are consistent.

During D2 he claims that the mderg case has some merit but that he still doesn't want to lynch him because his posts are "consistent". Also mention that his meta is wishy washy but never displays an example of that.

first half? Criticize the content not the style.

Shit like those are the reason that I had felt that Snickers was mafia earlier, and why I think you're mafia now.

And wow. VE really has made no effort to give his reads. If he does last 10 minutes thing again, this might change but for now.

##unvote
##Vote VE

☺
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 23 2014 21:58 GMT
#1114
On June 24 2014 06:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 06:54 Chezinu wrote:
On June 24 2014 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why did the thread suddenly die? I quite dislike the thought of me dying ; (

Then why don't you save yourself and kills VE?

You have the power to vote.

Or you can keep VE alive and die in his place, so that VE and me can die tonight together to fullfill the prophecy! Best ending EVER!!!!

I can vote VE but since he was first at 4 votes it doesn't make much of a diference. Why do you think I am scum? Also why am I a BETTER target than say VE or Koshi.

SAVE YOURSELF LAZER!!! SAVEYOURSELF!!!!


MUAHHAHAHAH!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:59 GMT
#1115
On June 24 2014 06:54 Snickers wrote:
Koshi is town because of how bad his play continual is. Look at his first scum reads as me release and somebody else because we did not vote together. He's not pushing the thread or helping much but what do you expect from a bad town player. More on this later.

So I think you are playing a game right now called "If we assume that Koshi is town, how could you justify his actions?". I think that is a good game but you need to try out the other game also which is called "If we assume that Koshi is town, how could you justify his actions?"
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:59 GMT
#1116
##Unvote
##Vote: VE


ty
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 23 2014 22:00 GMT
#1117
"If we assume that Koshi is town, how could you justify his actions?"
"If we assume that Koshi is town, how could you justify his actions?"

same game?
☺
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 22:01 GMT
#1118
lol sorry, it should be "If I assume that Koshi is scum, how could you justify his action?" : D
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 23 2014 22:04 GMT
#1119
VisceraEyes Save yourself!

TROLOLOLOL!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 23 2014 22:05 GMT
#1120
On June 24 2014 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 06:51 Koshi wrote:
Want to talk with me?

Why do you consider VE town when you don't know Lazer's alignment and VE has acted, in your opinion, scummily in his own right?

That was in case LM is scum. Because I said before they could be scumbuddies. But I don't think anymore that that is the case. So I corrected myself.

Look, both could be scum here. I don't know which one. Maybe not a single one of them is scum. But I think that they are. Sloosh/LM/VE it just feels right that scum is in there.
I had a good night of sleep.
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