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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:06 GMT
#1061
Like now it doesn't matter what you do BH. Who fucking cares what your opinion of Lazer is, in Lazer v VE you've made your fucking bed. There are votes enough for Lazer to lynch him instead of me. Fucking deal wit it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 20:09 GMT
#1062
On June 24 2014 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like now it doesn't matter what you do BH. Who fucking cares what your opinion of Lazer is, in Lazer v VE you've made your fucking bed. There are votes enough for Lazer to lynch him instead of me. Fucking deal wit it.


I'll say what I believe is right and vote who I believe is scum. You can say or do what you want but nothing will silence my voice or snuff out the ringing clarity of truth in my words.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:11 GMT
#1063
You'll also be wrong and bad in equal measure, but that's your prerogative. <3
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:12 GMT
#1064
Also if I'm scum I'm shooting you tonight BH, so you don't have to worry about it for long if you're right.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 20:13 GMT
#1065
On June 24 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher.
On June 24 2014 03:25 Koshi wrote:
VE any chance you can give us more about your reads on the players in this gmae? The only thing you said in your last 3 post is thqt you are town. scum shows;activity, tozn gives reads;

This post is really bad.

No, it is actually 100% truth.

The tone of your post makes no sense. Your question is phrased in a level-headed way, then you proceed to trash his reads. It looks incredibly forced to me.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 20:15 GMT
#1066
I still have one tool left with which to lynch you, VE, should it come down to that. I will read on lazermo and you shall have my read. I do not anticipate being swayed to vote him over you, especially since this case appeared only when you were on mortal danger. In the end, though, I'll have my say and I'll do my best to be right. I'll remind you that one of us lynched mderg yesterday and the other is you.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
June 23 2014 20:15 GMT
#1067
How hard can this be. There are still 5 people in the running for scum. BH/Release/Artanis look town. Or shot not be considered for the mderg lynch today. Artanis is a little fucker but who cares.
Snickers/VE/Lazermonkey/Chezinu/SloOsh are left.

Snickers can be excused due to mderg filter. Very unlikely that he is scum with mderg. Not a good lynch.
Chezinu is Chezinu and was on mderg. I guess we have a doc and not a cop so that's unfortunate but even then I wouldn't lynch Chezinu because he isn't harmful to town in any way. He isn't pushing an agenda he is just being around.

VE is away on the wrong moments, pushes scum but then doesn't vote scum, can't be tied to anybody in case he flips scum because his reads are all neutral, and is currently just showing activity.
Lazermonkey is just trying to get me lynched. Even when his top scumreads were SloOsh and VE he was pushing me the hardest. Look at D2, he just came in to push me while IGNORING the mderg/BH wagons. I am pretty sure that scumtactics were to get BH lynched (who was main candidate back then) and then myself.
On June 20 2014 22:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH, I'm not a newbie player. I know that similarities does not necessarily mean the same alignment, but previous games can give you insights into their mind. Particularly a scum qt can be enlightening. It told me mderg is someone that thinks before he posts as scum, which is a point against him being scum this game.

I'm not up for a mderg lynch at this point in time. I am up for a Koshi lynch though.
##Unvote
##Vote Koshi
This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also.

On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.

Vote him.

On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.

Vote him.


As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually.

Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding.

All these posts indicate that Lazermonkey is actually following the thread. Nowhere it looks like he is lagging behind so he can't give an opinion on Mderg/BH. Clearly it was a choice from Lazermonkey to not comment on it. Why not? Because BH was going to get lynched and Lazermonkey was setting up the next misslynch. That's why. There is enough time between these posts to catch up with the thread. Are you going to believe he just came in once an hour and just looked at my filter and pushes me? Why wouldn't scum be superlazy on D2 with BH playing suicidal?

btw, looking in Lazermonkies filter I think VE is town. reasons:
1) Lazermonkies case on D3 is based on VE not defending bunnies enough D1. Knowing that Lazermonkey wasn't "able" to follow the game D2/N2 it is pretty insane he remembered all this from D1. ScumMonkey however could have planned this case as soon as bunnies was lynched D1.
2) As soon as I moved off LM and on VE today LM called me sensible. This means he got a pretty strong scumread on VE right? But as soon as VE enters the thread with null posts LM seems to have VE as town and starts to push Koshi/SloOsh. This could be because they are scumbuddies but could just as easily be because townVE was in the thread and is more active and has more influance than SloOsh and me.

I really want to lynch LM.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:16 GMT
#1068
On June 24 2014 05:15 YouKnowZhou wrote:
I still have one tool left with which to lynch you, VE, should it come down to that. I will read on lazermo and you shall have my read. I do not anticipate being swayed to vote him over you, especially since this case appeared only when you were on mortal danger. In the end, though, I'll have my say and I'll do my best to be right. I'll remind you that one of us lynched mderg yesterday and the other is you.

You say that, but I made a case on him and repeatedly stated that I was fine with him being lynched. I don't care how many times you say that I wasn't a factor in his lynch because my vote was on someone else, the facts and my posts speak for themselves.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
June 23 2014 20:18 GMT
#1069
On June 24 2014 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher.
On June 24 2014 03:25 Koshi wrote:
VE any chance you can give us more about your reads on the players in this gmae? The only thing you said in your last 3 post is thqt you are town. scum shows;activity, tozn gives reads;

This post is really bad.

No, it is actually 100% truth.

The tone of your post makes no sense. Your question is phrased in a level-headed way, then you proceed to trash his reads. It looks incredibly forced to me.

What are you even talking about?

I ask for his reads because his latest posts were just saying he was town and nothing else. Then I add that town who is up for lynch always give their reads, while scum up for lynch just make posts and show activity. Which was a little joke while most of the time it is a pretty good heuristic.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
June 23 2014 20:19 GMT
#1070
I forgot to add that SloOsh could be mafia because nobody wants to lynch him and he is not really being super town. Also PoE.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 20:21 GMT
#1071
On June 24 2014 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher.
On June 24 2014 03:25 Koshi wrote:
VE any chance you can give us more about your reads on the players in this gmae? The only thing you said in your last 3 post is thqt you are town. scum shows;activity, tozn gives reads;

This post is really bad.

No, it is actually 100% truth.

The tone of your post makes no sense. Your question is phrased in a level-headed way, then you proceed to trash his reads. It looks incredibly forced to me.

What are you even talking about?

I ask for his reads because his latest posts were just saying he was town and nothing else. Then I add that town who is up for lynch always give their reads, while scum up for lynch just make posts and show activity. Which was a little joke while most of the time it is a pretty good heuristic.

I'm not talking about the content, I'm talking about the tone you're using. "Any chance?" is a very submissive phrasing, whereas the latter half is very distinctly different.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 20:21 GMT
#1072
On June 24 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:15 YouKnowZhou wrote:
I still have one tool left with which to lynch you, VE, should it come down to that. I will read on lazermo and you shall have my read. I do not anticipate being swayed to vote him over you, especially since this case appeared only when you were on mortal danger. In the end, though, I'll have my say and I'll do my best to be right. I'll remind you that one of us lynched mderg yesterday and the other is you.

You say that, but I made a case on him and repeatedly stated that I was fine with him being lynched. I don't care how many times you say that I wasn't a factor in his lynch because my vote was on someone else, the facts and my posts speak for themselves.


You made a case on him, said you were fine with him being lynched, then you didn't push him or vote him, and voted for his counterwagon even after your stated reason for voting the counterwagon went away. I know I overuse the phrase, but that's pretty much classic scum play. You voted mderg day 1, then day 2 you didn't vote him and made noises about how he was scum, but didn't follow it up, voted someone else, and day 2 was the day that mattered.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
June 23 2014 20:22 GMT
#1073
On June 24 2014 05:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:18 Koshi wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher.
On June 24 2014 03:25 Koshi wrote:
VE any chance you can give us more about your reads on the players in this gmae? The only thing you said in your last 3 post is thqt you are town. scum shows;activity, tozn gives reads;

This post is really bad.

No, it is actually 100% truth.

The tone of your post makes no sense. Your question is phrased in a level-headed way, then you proceed to trash his reads. It looks incredibly forced to me.

What are you even talking about?

I ask for his reads because his latest posts were just saying he was town and nothing else. Then I add that town who is up for lynch always give their reads, while scum up for lynch just make posts and show activity. Which was a little joke while most of the time it is a pretty good heuristic.

I'm not talking about the content, I'm talking about the tone you're using. "Any chance?" is a very submissive phrasing, whereas the latter half is very distinctly different.

Yeah you are not Robik.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:24 GMT
#1074
On June 24 2014 05:21 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:15 YouKnowZhou wrote:
I still have one tool left with which to lynch you, VE, should it come down to that. I will read on lazermo and you shall have my read. I do not anticipate being swayed to vote him over you, especially since this case appeared only when you were on mortal danger. In the end, though, I'll have my say and I'll do my best to be right. I'll remind you that one of us lynched mderg yesterday and the other is you.

You say that, but I made a case on him and repeatedly stated that I was fine with him being lynched. I don't care how many times you say that I wasn't a factor in his lynch because my vote was on someone else, the facts and my posts speak for themselves.


You made a case on him, said you were fine with him being lynched, then you didn't push him or vote him, and voted for his counterwagon even after your stated reason for voting the counterwagon went away. I know I overuse the phrase, but that's pretty much classic scum play. You voted mderg day 1, then day 2 you didn't vote him and made noises about how he was scum, but didn't follow it up, voted someone else, and day 2 was the day that mattered.

And I stated my reasoning for voting for you when I did - that slOosh and Release had voted for you and Koshi and Snickers had voted for mderg and I felt better about slOosh and Release than I did about Koshi and Snickers. That's my reasoning. You can pull out all the quotes and vote-timings and everything that you want, but that's my reasoning and that's why I voted. I don't care if you think it doesn't make sense, it's factual and real and true. You repeatedly stating that it's NOT true and NOT real and NOT factual is wrong and bad. WRONG and BAD BH.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 20:29 GMT
#1075
At this point I'm pretty sure VE is town or VE and BH are pulling an LI. I'm going to go with town though. VE hasn't been this passionate about a game of mafia in quite some time and the last time I've seen him play mafia he was quite complacent when he got caught and even went afk. This is not a mafia VE and I'm quite sure of it. BH, I'm pretty sure you're overestimating VE's current mafia game by quite a bit.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:30 GMT
#1076
And I'm going to be REALLY real here - I MUCH prefer a BH lynch to ANYONE today because he's pushing me LIKE this. Not the content - frankly I can see BH being wrong and bad like this as town - it's the WAY he's pushing it. I said it earlier, but BH hardly ever plays like this as town. Frankly BH hardly ever plays as town, it's something that's really started to bother me. The only times I've ever seen him actually put effort into appearing town in a game is when he's mafia.

However because he WAS a factor in the mderg lynch I'm willing to concede that he may not be the BEST lynch today. So I'm voting others that ARE NOT BH because they're BETTER lynches because of other reasons. But like slOosh, I REALLY want to lynch BH.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 20:34 GMT
#1077
Like BH says "VE is so crafty, you can't catch him on stupid slip ups and he's not going to be glaringly mafia" except his whole contention is that I did something that is "classic mafia play" and I'm like super obvious mafia to him. Anyone who doesn't see this blatant contradiction is simply biased or not reading.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 20:37 GMT
#1078
Say, it, VE. Say I'm too townie to be town. I want to read the words.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 20:40 GMT
#1079
Can we please lynch Koshi though? His read post is so bad.
Talks about why VE is scum. Stops and goes over to Lazer and talks about how he wants to lynch Lazer, then ends his post with why VE is town based on unflipped associations presuming that Lazer is scum. He hasn't done anything this game other than voting for the right person in mderg. Case on Lazer boils down to "I'm not scum and he pushed me over his other suspects who I also think are town."
Is there any reason not to lynch him?
##Vote Koshi
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 23 2014 20:42 GMT
#1080
Do not waste your vote on koshi. Read his filter, it be near impossible to play bad town that well.

Malawi ve said he did not want ykz to contribute to thread . This is scummy.
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