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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 31 2014 17:59 GMT
#1361
Holyflare who's mafia in Cell D and E?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 31 2014 18:00 GMT
#1362
You don't have to draw up a big case or whatever I've read the thread I already know what people have been doing. Just two names is fine.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:05 GMT
#1363
On June 01 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO.



If it is what I think it is, I have absolutely no clue how you could come to the conclusion then. I also think you should not have mentioned it at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:05 GMT
#1364
On June 01 2014 02:59 batsnacks wrote:
Holyflare who's mafia in Cell D and E?


cell d i honestly have no clue, obi's only contribution is a terrible case on me when it wasn't even relevant and was bad and he voted mz for "plot holes in his reasoning" but never explained that and wasted time, tambo is just.. like afk all the time and when he returns he goes on bunnies for reasons of fucking rng discussion -.- major useless waste of time, sloosh had a case that i liked but that's the only thing that i liked and other than that he has done absolutely 0 things so really cell d is complete shit

cell e, i like bunnies, she went tryhard on filtering people when it didnt' really need to be done if she was mafia because i'm pretty sure she had good reasons to begin with, she's put in a lot of effort and all that jazz. i already made my reasons for mderg but i wouldn't honestly be surprised if it was layabout because he has also done 0 things
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:07 GMT
#1365
On June 01 2014 03:05 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO.



If it is what I think it is, I have absolutely no clue how you could come to the conclusion then. I also think you should not have mentioned it at all.


it's nothing to do with what you think, simply that you are in both games and drew no parallells between what he was doing here and there yet instantly town read him for 0 reasons here after he had done nothing and then you defended the point about 3 times
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:11 GMT
#1366
On June 01 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 03:05 mderg wrote:
On June 01 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO.



If it is what I think it is, I have absolutely no clue how you could come to the conclusion then. I also think you should not have mentioned it at all.


it's nothing to do with what you think, simply that you are in both games and drew no parallells between what he was doing here and there yet instantly town read him for 0 reasons here after he had done nothing and then you defended the point about 3 times

I should know the undisclosed info but it has nothing to do with what I think? I don´t get this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:11 GMT
#1367
The thing about Poof brought up about Palmar is nothing I´d read into

I don´t really like M_Z because he is so into the freedom thing and kinda buddied with ritoky. He also called the meta case on Palmar "a pretty damning meta case". IMO it´s something to look into but definitely not even close to a 100% scum tell.

Also I am not that sure about Palmar being scum. Why would he do the same shit as the game before where he was scum. It just feels strange.

His Palmar scumread makes sense but I have a feeling that Palmar is actually town


this is all while palmar was doing nothing, not consistant and definitely tmi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:13 GMT
#1368
On June 01 2014 03:11 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 03:05 mderg wrote:
On June 01 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO.



If it is what I think it is, I have absolutely no clue how you could come to the conclusion then. I also think you should not have mentioned it at all.


it's nothing to do with what you think, simply that you are in both games and drew no parallells between what he was doing here and there yet instantly town read him for 0 reasons here after he had done nothing and then you defended the point about 3 times

I should know the undisclosed info but it has nothing to do with what I think? I don´t get this.


stop fucking talking about info in ongoing games, you are in a game where palmar is actively playing right? yes.
you see palmar not playing in this game at all right? yes.
you say nothing about that whatsoever but come to the ready conclusion that hes town right? yes

all based on 0 posts and you haven't used anything to draw these conclusions
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:17 GMT
#1369
On May 30 2014 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 13:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2014 13:30 Holyflare wrote:
Find me the people other than ritoky that aren't scum reading mz with a day till lynch.


You gonna make me major filter dive? Damn hf.


Hmmm

Tamburini
MZ himself
Mderg ( this post is super weird imo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449768-cell-mini-mafia-ii?page=43#857 )
Palmer voted odin, so there's that.
Robik hasnt said anything about MZ
Obi is focusing on you.


So those are the ones i have.


This is most likely a rather accurate list of mafia.

On May 31 2014 06:20 LoneMeow wrote:
Counting of votes:

OdinOfPergo (3): Palmar, Meapak_Ziphh, IAmRobik, ritoky
ritoky (3): mderg, Palmar, mtamburini
Meapak_Ziphh (9): WaveofShadow, slOosh, layabout, OdinOfPergo, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, batsnacks, 27ninjabunnies, Tehpoofter

Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched.
You have until Friday, May 30 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Meapak_Ziphh (post)
VOTE: slOosh voted Meapak_Ziphh (post)
VOTE: layabout voted meapak ziph (Meapak_Ziphh) (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted OdinOfPergo (post)
VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted Meapak_Ziphh (post)
VOTE: mderg voted ritoky (post)
VOTE: Palmar unvoted OdinOfPergo (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted Meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) (post)
VOTE: Palmar unvoted Meapak_Ziphh (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted ritoky (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted meapak z (Meapak_Ziphh) (post)
VOTE: batsnacks voted Meapak_Ziphh (post)
VOTE: Meapak_Ziphh voted OdinOfPergo (post)
VOTE: IAmRobik voted odinofprego (OdinOfPergo) (post)
VOTE: ritoky voted Odinofpergo (OdinOfPergo) (post)
VOTE: 27ninjabunnies voted Meapak_Ziphh (post)
VOTE: mtamburini voted RITOKY (ritoky) (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted Meapek_Z (Meapak_Ziphh) (post)

mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:18 GMT
#1370
On June 01 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 03:11 mderg wrote:
On June 01 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 03:05 mderg wrote:
On June 01 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO.



If it is what I think it is, I have absolutely no clue how you could come to the conclusion then. I also think you should not have mentioned it at all.


it's nothing to do with what you think, simply that you are in both games and drew no parallells between what he was doing here and there yet instantly town read him for 0 reasons here after he had done nothing and then you defended the point about 3 times

I should know the undisclosed info but it has nothing to do with what I think? I don´t get this.


stop fucking talking about info in ongoing games, you are in a game where palmar is actively playing right? yes.
you see palmar not playing in this game at all right? yes.
you say nothing about that whatsoever but come to the ready conclusion that hes town right? yes

all based on 0 posts and you haven't used anything to draw these conclusions

You were the one who brought this in in the first place!

I don´t remember giving Palmar a strong townread here. I fucking said that I have the feeling that Palmar is town. I´ve also never even pretended to back that up with anything because I can´t back it up. It´s a fucking gut feeling.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:20 GMT
#1371
-.- -.- -.- -.- -.-

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#1372
Somehow he even knows for a fact that I´m mafia. Sadly he also says that he will not disclose the reasons for that. As far as I know only people of 1 alignment can know the alignment of others for a fact (hint: it´s scum). He is 100% lying here. I´m not scum.


explain this then please

"only 1 alignment can know the alignment of others (scum)" implies quite obviously that I am scum but if that's the case then you ARE therefore mafia.

Then you add on that i'm 100% lying and you're not scum which is:

A) Adding unneeded information to state that you're town which is inherently a mafia thing to do
B) Disproving the previous half of the statement because if you are town then I can't possibly know your alignment so then what's the point of writing it?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:30 GMT
#1373
On June 01 2014 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
Somehow he even knows for a fact that I´m mafia. Sadly he also says that he will not disclose the reasons for that. As far as I know only people of 1 alignment can know the alignment of others for a fact (hint: it´s scum). He is 100% lying here. I´m not scum.


explain this then please

1)"only 1 alignment can know the alignment of others (scum)" implies quite obviously that I am scum but if that's the case then you ARE therefore mafia.

2)Then you add on that i'm 100% lying and you're not scum which is:

A) Adding unneeded information to state that you're town which is inherently a mafia thing to do
B) Disproving the previous half of the statement because if you are town then I can't possibly know your alignment so then what's the point of writing it?

1) You said that you KNOW, which by your logic means that you scumclaimed. I´d call this wordtwisting at it´s best.

2) I don´t think it´s inherently a mafia thing to do.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:33 GMT
#1374
Huh....? I'm not the one who created this logic buddy it's right there in YOUR post.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:39 GMT
#1375
A short explanation of what I meant to say in that post.

You say that you know I´m scum.
This means you either don´t know my alignment thus it means you´re lying. Or this means that you know my alignment and thus are scum.
Since I don´t think you should be lying as town it isn´t far fetched to think you´re scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:39 GMT
#1376
Half of the things you've called me mafia for are day 1 things which aren't even mafia orientated things. It's in fact very towny to get a consensus of other opinions because that holds people in written binding to explore later. After all you just said you were assuming ritoky is mafia but he was giving out information. That doesn't make sense. Then you leave out pretty much everything I've done in this game and point to one post which can't be explained and you know it can't because it's an ongoing game but actually had reasons for this game in it (which you ignored) and then used logic which was illogical to try and paint something i said in a mafia orientated way which is disproved by the fact you say it's a lie.

So really you have a post that is calling me mafia for:

Doing something towny
Something that was explained but you ignored
Illogical reasoning

Then you do what you did in cell A and have mutiple people as slightly scummy so that of one fails you can jump to the other and it will be acceptable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:41 GMT
#1377
On June 01 2014 03:39 mderg wrote:
A short explanation of what I meant to say in that post.

You say that you know I´m scum.
This means you either don´t know my alignment thus it means you´re lying. Or this means that you know my alignment and thus are scum.
Since I don´t think you should be lying as town it isn´t far fetched to think you´re scum.


You've done it again??? If i don't know your alignment then I AM TOWN. IF I KNOW YOUR ALIGNMENT AND CALLED YOU SCUM YOU ARE SCUM.

if I'm not supposed to "lie" as town that makes mafia so you are thus mafia!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 18:43 GMT
#1378
You also say "Holyflare was asking for peoples opinions and consensus which is scummy but then stopped doing that which is scummy"
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:46 GMT
#1379
On June 01 2014 03:43 Holyflare wrote:
You also say "Holyflare was asking for peoples opinions and consensus which is scummy but then stopped doing that which is scummy"

NO!!!!!!!!!
You didn´t ask for opinions, you said you were exactly going to do what the majority wants. Later you go against that by not going with a cell order the majority wanted.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 18:46 GMT
#1380
On June 01 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 03:39 mderg wrote:
A short explanation of what I meant to say in that post.

You say that you know I´m scum.
This means you either don´t know my alignment thus it means you´re lying. Or this means that you know my alignment and thus are scum.
Since I don´t think you should be lying as town it isn´t far fetched to think you´re scum.


You've done it again??? If i don't know your alignment then I AM TOWN. IF I KNOW YOUR ALIGNMENT AND CALLED YOU SCUM YOU ARE SCUM.

if I'm not supposed to "lie" as town that makes mafia so you are thus mafia!

Are you actually serious or are you just playing dumb?
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