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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 21:50 GMT
#1401
I'm town guys btw.
Computer says mafia
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 31 2014 21:54 GMT
#1402
HolyFlare why are you arguing with someone you think is scum?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 31 2014 22:04 GMT
#1403
On June 01 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
I've already read everyone's filter. My conclusion is that bunnies is mafia in Cell E. I understand the points you are trying to make about mderg but bunnies is still scummier to me.

Lets talk about Cell D. You said you honestly have no clue. If Cell D were today and the deadline was now, who would you vote?


Fortunately I'm in a spot where i don't have to do that. So you say bunnies is mafia but only give reasons why she is likely town. So what about layabout?

Sloosh, while i think he's scum that doesn't stop me arguing over points using logic that aren't mathematically sound when the person pushing it says they are.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 22:48 GMT
#1404
Honestly I'm just gonna policy vote Holyflare for 16 pages filter because I really cba reading it.
Computer says mafia
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
June 01 2014 00:25 GMT
#1405
On June 01 2014 05:45 layabout wrote:
right so ima spend time queued up for wildstar server on this

IamRobiks is my current pick for scum. His posting as a whole is quite strange particularly at the start


So the other 2 are town and voted on the ML on day 1 is what your saying?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 00:47 GMT
#1406
On June 01 2014 09:25 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 05:45 layabout wrote:
right so ima spend time queued up for wildstar server on this

IamRobiks is my current pick for scum. His posting as a whole is quite strange particularly at the start


So the other 2 are town and voted on the ML on day 1 is what your saying?


You should be giving reads other than bunnies for a while because you are extremely unaccountable for what's happened so far.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 01 2014 01:12 GMT
#1407
On June 01 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
I've already read everyone's filter. My conclusion is that bunnies is mafia in Cell E. I understand the points you are trying to make about mderg but bunnies is still scummier to me.

Lets talk about Cell D. You said you honestly have no clue. If Cell D were today and the deadline was now, who would you vote?


Fortunately I'm in a spot where i don't have to do that. So you say bunnies is mafia but only give reasons why she is likely town. So what about layabout?

Sloosh, while i think he's scum that doesn't stop me arguing over points using logic that aren't mathematically sound when the person pushing it says they are.


Bolded part are all your words, not mine. Don't give me this crap like "if you can really say bunnies is mafia over mderg and layabout you honestly have no concept of what's going on in this game at all." That's the rhetorical equivalent of you mashing your keyboard because someone disagreed with you. Have a little more respect for people's opinions and why they are expressing them. No one is going to listen to you if you just shit on every opinion that's different from yours. Do you think me calling bunnies scum helps me or scum team at all? It doesn't. I shared that information with you because you told me who you thought was scum. I think bunnies is mafia because even though she says a lot of STUFF, most of the stuff she says is weak, unnecessary, and doesn't move town forward in any positive direction.

And why wouldn't you tell me who you think mafia is in group D? Why is it fortunate that you're in a spot where you "don't have to?" I want to compare my reads with yours.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 01 2014 01:47 GMT
#1408
Seems like he doesn't want to engage with reads either because he is scum and doesn't want to talk reads or he firmly believes robik is scum.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 01 2014 01:48 GMT
#1409
On June 01 2014 10:47 slOosh wrote:
Seems like he doesn't want to engage with reads either because he is scum and doesn't want to talk reads or he firmly believes robik is scum.


Is Robik scum?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 01 2014 01:48 GMT
#1410
I'm reading up right now.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 01 2014 01:57 GMT
#1411
I would rather have your gut feeling of yes/no in this moment. It's easy to argue anything if there's time to prepare.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 01 2014 01:59 GMT
#1412
ebwop: I know that every town member, by now, has one town member in each group they think is the scummiest. I would hope so at least if everyone has been keeping up with the thread. I'm afraid some people aren't sharing those insights because they are afraid they will get punished for it because they didn't offer enough hard reasoning.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 01 2014 02:00 GMT
#1413
ebwop2: It sounds awkward saying "town member" twice I hope everyone understands what I meant with that first sentence.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 01 2014 02:03 GMT
#1414
Right, I understand where you are coming from. However I've been busy due to trying to play 2 games so there was skimming involved. Now that I'm done with one, I can focus on this one properly.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 01 2014 02:03 GMT
#1415
But yes, the gut feeling is currently yes.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 01 2014 02:11 GMT
#1416
burini im still waiting for your read on me.

btw whos scum in the current lynch group?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 01 2014 02:15 GMT
#1417
On June 01 2014 11:03 slOosh wrote:
But yes, the gut feeling is currently yes.


why?
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 02:18 GMT
#1418
On June 01 2014 10:12 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
I've already read everyone's filter. My conclusion is that bunnies is mafia in Cell E. I understand the points you are trying to make about mderg but bunnies is still scummier to me.

Lets talk about Cell D. You said you honestly have no clue. If Cell D were today and the deadline was now, who would you vote?


Fortunately I'm in a spot where i don't have to do that. So you say bunnies is mafia but only give reasons why she is likely town. So what about layabout?

Sloosh, while i think he's scum that doesn't stop me arguing over points using logic that aren't mathematically sound when the person pushing it says they are.


Bolded part are all your words, not mine. Don't give me this crap like "if you can really say bunnies is mafia over mderg and layabout you honestly have no concept of what's going on in this game at all." That's the rhetorical equivalent of you mashing your keyboard because someone disagreed with you. Have a little more respect for people's opinions and why they are expressing them. No one is going to listen to you if you just shit on every opinion that's different from yours. Do you think me calling bunnies scum helps me or scum team at all? It doesn't. I shared that information with you because you told me who you thought was scum. I think bunnies is mafia because even though she says a lot of STUFF, most of the stuff she says is weak, unnecessary, and doesn't move town forward in any positive direction.

And why wouldn't you tell me who you think mafia is in group D? Why is it fortunate that you're in a spot where you "don't have to?" I want to compare my reads with yours.


I've explained why the reasons you posted were more likely to come from a town mindset rather than a scums. At no point did i "shit all over your reads", what is a more likely mafia mindset to you.

Filter diving everyone in a cell when a locked in lynch is going to happen and posting walls of text

Or

Sitting back doing not much and complaining about nothing happening

Or

Sitting back and scum reading everyone and then choosing the non wagon at the end of the day with weak reasoning


If you still think it's 1 your read is fundamentally flawed for finding mafia mindsets and I can't trust it, 2 and 3 are where the scum are and that's mderg and layabout.


I can't give a read on d because they haven't posted anything to get a proper read on.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 01 2014 02:27 GMT
#1419
What about Cell D then?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 01 2014 02:27 GMT
#1420
Yea ok this is really weird.

Gut read, IAmRobik is scum because he doesn't have any analysis or meaningful reads or anything on the three lynch candidates.

You see posts like these where he affirms it himself
On May 31 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)

As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.

What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin?

I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch.

As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia.

This is a horrible reason not to vote for MZ, and a barely decent reason not to vote for ritoky. You have no idea what newbies are capable of, ESPECIALLY if he's not actually a newbie. He was plenty aggressive in his last game as town iirc, and I see no reason why he couldn't put it on as scum too. There is zero reason why first time scummers (on this site, anyway) need to be assumed to be timid their first time.

On top of that, neither of these are reasons for Odin ACTUALLY BEING SCUM< when you said yourself you read the early posts and assumed he was town.

I just read like 2 posts of his and decided that...I didn't read any of his early stuff until I read whatever MZ quoted. I haven't read the drunk stuff that people cleared him for, but I assumed it was clear-worthy. I was mostly just going along with the consensus of people who were calling him town backed by my own insta-read on him.


On May 31 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.

kthx

For the record, I have 0 other reason to believe he's town.

No nothing.

But in that same post is something I'm finding incredibly towny:
On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.

kthx

I find it hard to believe that scum would have the foresight to be able to call out something like this. Usually as scum you just sheep along other people, maybe parrot some words here and there if needed. All you need is to stick your vote on someone and just enough that people don't do a double take. Gaming the setup like that seems like a very advanced play for uhh what seems like a ... newer mafia player.

So I'm mulling over that right now

... but chances are that he is probably scum because he hasn't done crap trying to figure out his own cell's alignment the day they are getting lynched. It's just weird.

##Vote: IAmRobik
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