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Theres your new answer for cell D batsnacks.
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On June 01 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 01 2014 12:30 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 01 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?
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fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway. He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time. so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed. rofl. okay. Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still. Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc. how i read your case: "this persons reads shouldnt change because i dont think they shouldve changed because of a thing that happened in the thread." i guess contextual reads dont exist either. You are implying he had reads to begin with. Why are you defending robik so much. He had 0 reasons for mz to be town. Absolutely 0, he had said so himself. Consensus was on mz by almost everyone bar 2-3 ppl (a very likely number in a bussing situation) and he had a town read on the person he voted for. His only only only reason for switching is an inevitability that would happen to a caught scum anyway. Nothing to do with what I think should have happened, it's what is obvious to robik if he actually thought that process was occurring. If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks? because the reasons people are scumreading him arent really consistent with his posts. he clearly had a reason for why he thought mz was town: the fact that both members of his cell were voting him. he had 0 reasons otherwise, which is something youre misrepresenting in your post. and the reason im defending him is because i dont think hes scum. lol. what a weird thing to say. though one thing i think is really funny: If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks? lol. ##vote: holyflare Are you really being this obtuse? I'm saying that's exactly the reason WHY you should be scum reading him. His ONLY reason was that. His mindset is that there is a consensus on mz being scum. His mindset would include bussing as highly likely because if mz was scum he couldn't not be bussed so close to deadline. His first reaction to people in his cell voting for mz is not bussing, which is where his mindset was, it's that mz is town with 1....ONLY 1 "confirmed" mafia on his lynch. That is not consistent in the slightest.
robik should probably post his own defense.
and for the record, i find your logic for voting robik exceedingly thin.
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Hi there... I skimmed. Yay for being called mafia...
There are some general things Id like to address, before i start quoting things and wrecking mafia.
1. How is me being active mafia indicative. And how is what I am posting weak?!
2. Tamburini" why the hell are you still focusing on me, when we have a freaking cell to lynch.
3. Robik, how can you call me scum and give no proof or evidence behind it?
4. Holyflare is town, so get off of him.
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On June 01 2014 13:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 01 2014 12:30 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 01 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?
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fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway. He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time. so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed. rofl. okay. Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still. Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc. how i read your case: "this persons reads shouldnt change because i dont think they shouldve changed because of a thing that happened in the thread." i guess contextual reads dont exist either. You are implying he had reads to begin with. Why are you defending robik so much. He had 0 reasons for mz to be town. Absolutely 0, he had said so himself. Consensus was on mz by almost everyone bar 2-3 ppl (a very likely number in a bussing situation) and he had a town read on the person he voted for. His only only only reason for switching is an inevitability that would happen to a caught scum anyway. Nothing to do with what I think should have happened, it's what is obvious to robik if he actually thought that process was occurring. If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks? because the reasons people are scumreading him arent really consistent with his posts. he clearly had a reason for why he thought mz was town: the fact that both members of his cell were voting him. he had 0 reasons otherwise, which is something youre misrepresenting in your post. and the reason im defending him is because i dont think hes scum. lol. what a weird thing to say. though one thing i think is really funny: If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks? lol. ##vote: holyflare Are you really being this obtuse? I'm saying that's exactly the reason WHY you should be scum reading him. His ONLY reason was that. His mindset is that there is a consensus on mz being scum. His mindset would include bussing as highly likely because if mz was scum he couldn't not be bussed so close to deadline. His first reaction to people in his cell voting for mz is not bussing, which is where his mindset was, it's that mz is town with 1....ONLY 1 "confirmed" mafia on his lynch. That is not consistent in the slightest. robik should probably post his own defense. and for the record, i find your logic for voting robik exceedingly thin.
So robik was town to you, that means that batsnacks and me are mafia. If the towny response (by robik you say) was to not vote mz. Why was your vote on mz?
You also cannot complain to me about thin logic.
Reason for voting ritoky mayor:
On May 28 2014 14:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
this ritoky guy has spunk.
##vote: ritoky
Reason for voting mz:
On May 30 2014 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 12:44 Holyflare wrote:
damn you found me plz dotn post teh best case ever people will know im mafia no dice. also the scum in cell a is meapak and ill get to that when i get the chance.
ive got this guy by poe and because of the plot hole spackle he has in his reads
Even though you said nothing about town reading odin at that point and did not explain the plot hole situation at all.
You even defend robik by saying so town cz moved off mz for no bus reasons after saying:
bussing is likely though.
And seeing poofter (someone who plays a shit tonne with robik) say:
On May 31 2014 06:12 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 05:51 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Did I not words?
I would vote Odin over Ritoky, but if it were between MZ and Ritoky, I would vote Ritoky to save MZ.
Okay what about if it could be any of the three and your vote was the only one that mattered? If it was a regular mafia game with no additional information, I'd vote MZ today. You know full and we'll the meta in cell mafia is try for ML but bus the obv scum. Your posting activity makes me think you're town but your logic and content makes me think you're scum.
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Ebwop: You even defend robik by saying he is so town cz he moved off mz for "no bussing is happening he's town!" reasons after saying:
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Actually, i dont have time to do this tonight, as my boss called me and said i have to come into work an hour earlier than expected, so i need rest.
Never lynch holyflare. Lynch robik or batsnacks.
Ill make a case tomorrow, since apparently too much activity, that is apparently weak, means im mafia.
Might as well just lurk liike tamburini and layabout the rest of the game.
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Robik please answer:
If I had been voting ritoky yesterday, you would have voted MZ, right?
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Who do you think is mafia in D and E?
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Holyflare 100% mafia based on his filter being too long.
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Counting of votes:
IAmRobik (2): Holyflare, slOosh
Holyflare (3): mderg, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi
Not voting (7): mtamburini, IAmRobik, batsnacks, Tehpoofter, WaveofShadow, layabout, 27ninjabunnies
Currently, Holyflare is set to be lynched.
You have until Sunday, Jun 01 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: mderg voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted iamrobik (IAmRobik) ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted IAmRobik ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted holyflare (Holyflare) ( post)
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Pretty sure slOoss's is scum. His vote post looks super lazy. Everything he has provided has been very surface level and he has activitly avoided talking about half of the lynch candidates. He asks questions and calls for discussion but both days he has picked a guy and tunneled him totally ignoring the other two. His filter gives me a sense that he is doing that because he thinks he has to not because it's what he thinks. And give his filter a read before you try to jump on that comment because it's the best way i can explain it for now.
^main bit
his post here misses the point. If IAmRobik is town and he saw HF and batsnacks vote MZ then he would know that the mafia team was completely fine with MZ getting lynched because he would now that there was at least 1 mafia on him. The important thing at that point was that those 2 votes were what made the MZ lynch secure.
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Oh and i totally messed up on day1:
when MZ said this:
On May 31 2014 03:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:
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yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. That's just not how I roll lol. Seriously look at any game I've been town lynched versus and game I've been scum lynched. I know why people are voting me, it's because they're lazy and don't feel like reading the thread. No amount of posts from me will change that. Also Palmar is so fucking scum after that last post. Kill him when his time comes.
I started to think doubt my read but i listened to the stupid voices in my head that saw the people on the other wagons as scummy
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How come people don't think i am mafia?
I haven't been here and that's my red meta.
Who is batsnacks? I quite like his way of looking at the game.
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oh and when you have 1/3 of the votes in the game and 1 of them is not on mafia for free (the guy in the cell) you don't need to bus at all and if even a small number of townies are wrong you can switch pretty much any lynch around.
TODAYS LYNCH IS SUPER IMPORTANT IF WE MISLYNCH TODAY THEN ON DAY 3 MAFIA WIN WITH 2 TOWN ON A WRONG WAGON ON DAY 4 WITH 1 OR 2 and DAY 5 WITH !(though that one is much more obvious)
It requires perfect play from almost every townie if we fuck up today so get here
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Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats
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On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats
Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him
There's some points that actually make sense.
So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.
If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.
If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.
So two scenerios i see there.
I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.
Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?
And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?
What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?
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im not going to be around for deadline again. ill be around for a while before, though.
robik still really needs to post. waiting this long is really bad for town.
On June 01 2014 17:57 Palmar wrote:
Holyflare 100% mafia based on his filter being too long.
lol.
do you have a real reason for thinking hes mafia though?
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On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him There's some points that actually make sense. So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons. If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie. If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor. So two scenerios i see there. I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well. Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too? And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read? What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?
If I can trust you and you can trust me on the town read we have on one person in the cell it's simply Poe.
I do feel that if you are town you've allowed HF to pocket you due to the fact of my excessive tunnel of you which makes me think he is more scum then bat.
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On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats + Show Spoiler +
Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him
There's some points that actually make sense.
So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.
If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.
If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.
So two scenerios i see there.
I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.
Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?
And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?
What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?
This is the primary reason I wanted my cell to go first on day 1:
On May 29 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote:
We've got less that 2 hours.
Just consider this: What is the advantage of lynching the mayor's group first?
Lets assume that most people vote for the mayor because they believe he/she is town. If the mayor is in the cell to be lynched on day 1, that means that the first group up for lynch already has one person that the majority read as town. This gives town a starting advantage. If town can get the first victory, that is a lot of pressure on mafia. I would argue town winning day 1 is more important than town winning any other day, except for LYLO. Building momentum is important. Going into day 1 with a town read (the mayor) is an advantage. Consider this.
I still believe it is advantageous for town if the mayor's group is first.
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On June 02 2014 01:17 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats + Show Spoiler +
Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him
There's some points that actually make sense.
So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.
If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.
If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.
So two scenerios i see there.
I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.
Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?
And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?
What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?
This is the primary reason I wanted my cell to go first on day 1: Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote:
We've got less that 2 hours.
Just consider this: What is the advantage of lynching the mayor's group first?
Lets assume that most people vote for the mayor because they believe he/she is town. If the mayor is in the cell to be lynched on day 1, that means that the first group up for lynch already has one person that the majority read as town. This gives town a starting advantage. If town can get the first victory, that is a lot of pressure on mafia. I would argue town winning day 1 is more important than town winning any other day, except for LYLO. Building momentum is important. Going into day 1 with a town read (the mayor) is an advantage. Consider this. I still believe it is advantageous for town if the mayor's group is first.
It just doesn't work when the mayor is mafia
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