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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 31 2014 08:18 GMT
#1341
IAmRobik, who do you think is the scum in your cell?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
May 31 2014 08:37 GMT
#1342
NOT ME!

ALSO, IF WE DON'T WIN BY CELL 4, PLEASE LYNCH BUNNIES IN CELL 5.

MY BAC IS HIGHER THAN TAMBOS WHICH IS WHY THIS MESSAGE IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU IN ALL CAPS.

CAN'T FIND THE CAPS BUTTON TO TURN IT OFF
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 31 2014 08:37 GMT
#1343
On May 31 2014 17:18 slOosh wrote:
IAmRobik, who do you think is the scum in your cell?


What do you think of the person you replaced play before you came in and who would you have voted for mayor (if it is different from theirs
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 31 2014 09:00 GMT
#1344
On May 31 2014 17:37 IAmRobik wrote:
NOT ME!

ALSO, IF WE DON'T WIN BY CELL 4, PLEASE LYNCH BUNNIES IN CELL 5.

MY BAC IS HIGHER THAN TAMBOS WHICH IS WHY THIS MESSAGE IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU IN ALL CAPS.

CAN'T FIND THE CAPS BUTTON TO TURN IT OFF



LIVING LA VITA LOCA
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
May 31 2014 09:05 GMT
#1345
wasd fyoudr perevious messsssage addressed to mee?
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 31 2014 09:05 GMT
#1346
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
May 31 2014 09:05 GMT
#1347
was your previous messesge adressed to me/
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 31 2014 09:05 GMT
#1348
On May 31 2014 18:05 IAmRobik wrote:
wasd fyoudr perevious messsssage addressed to mee?


yesssssssss sirrr
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
May 31 2014 09:07 GMT
#1349
ihave not read him, bujt im prety sure my reads ar bettter than his. who reallly cafres though since he was town adind i'm hear tocontinue the dtradtion
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 09:20 GMT
#1350
Told you guys MZ was town.
Computer says mafia
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 31 2014 13:48 GMT
#1351
What everyone goes silent now?
Are you ashamed that you ML a town?

I know at least 4 town dun fucked up voting for MZ so where you all at?

Where do you think you went wrong, why did you read him scummy?

(This is for everyone but I would like Robik HF and bats to answer)
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 31 2014 14:16 GMT
#1352
I will assume ritoky was scum.

For this cell I think it´s between batsnacks and Holyflare. I think Robik is town with how he questioned things. Not voting MZ is also a plus.

What I found strange about batsnacks is this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 31 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A.


Who should I vote?

Who you think is scum.


Who should I think is scum?

In case you missed it
On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:
I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A.

I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin.

Take one of his starting posts:
On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?

I want to analyze the shit out of them


This is quickly followed with a slew of
On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.

On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now

On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif>


On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
[quote]
My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town

My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom.

Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up.


Ohhh.. Process of elimination.

Didn't realize he was in your cell.

I should probably look at that list.

Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet?

And are you just basing that case on his mayor post?

Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf?

George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.

King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all.


The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now.

This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post.

The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post.

And here is the clincher:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:
Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica.

Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference)

Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom.

The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first
<ron swanson flag.gif>

On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
[quote]

Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea.

Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing!

So, we lynching Plammar?

No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky.

On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky

I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.

That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif>

By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest.

This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers.

I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch.

##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh



That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum?

Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum?

What??


You think MZ is scum.

How would it make you feel if I voted ritoky or Odin? There's only two of them so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how you feel about both options.

I'd think you are wrong, and depending on your explanations for voting them I might consider you scum.


Lets say I did like Palmar and didn't offer you any explanation. Would you consider me scum for that?

I can´t see the thought process behind this. Especially this part looks like it´s just there to confuse people.
On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A.


Who should I vote?

Who you think is scum.


Who should I think is scum?

In case you missed it
On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:
I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A.

I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin.

Take one of his starting posts:
On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?

I want to analyze the shit out of them


This is quickly followed with a slew of
On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.

On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now

On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif>


On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now


What is with all you boys getting hard.

It's mafia. Not sex.

Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup.

We use our penises to scum hunt.

I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not...


And you are so sure on them, aren't you?

Why? What is your evidence.
though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely.
And the tone of his posts throw me off.

I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty.

I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina.

Sorry but way more powerful than your penis.

My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town

My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom.

Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up.


Ohhh.. Process of elimination.

Didn't realize he was in your cell.

I should probably look at that list.

Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet?

And are you just basing that case on his mayor post?

Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf?

George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.

King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all.


The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now.

This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post.

The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post.

And here is the clincher:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:
Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica.

Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference)

Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom.

The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first
<ron swanson flag.gif>

On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.

Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor...


Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea.

Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing!

So, we lynching Plammar?

No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky.

On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky

I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.

That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif>

By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest.

This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers.

I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch.

##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh



That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum?

Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum?


Speculating about statistics about how many townies are right in a cell also seems strange. Shouldn´t it all be about the things that people actually do?
On May 31 2014 04:44 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 31 2014 04:37 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 04:32 batsnacks wrote:
Considering votes right now

If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right.

Please enlighten me what you wish to garner from this?


I think it says a lot. If ritoky is mafia, neither townie in his cell suspected him. If Odin is mafia, both town players in his cell suspected him. If MZ is mafia, 1 town member in his cell suspected him.

Speculating: What do you think would happen the most often if Cell Mafia were played 1,000,000 times? Zero townies being right about their cell, one townie being right about their cell, or both townies being right about their cell?

Again, pure speculation, I think most of time one townie would be right.




But Holyflare is way scummier to me than batsnacks.
I didn´t like how in his mayor campaign it felt like he was trying to go 100% with what the people wanted without giving any input himself and thus not taking any responsibility. When he later gave his own suggestions, he didn´t actually go with the general consensus.

I also really dislike this:
On May 29 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
Activity is the only real metric you should actually be using because more activity is more posting is easier scum reading.

I agree that activity is important in determining the cell order but basing it SOLELY on activity just seems stupid.

Also he uses the fact that he "knows" how every new scum player plays to confirm his townread on ritoky who I think is scum with him. It´s not like everyone is exactly the same, you know.
On May 29 2014 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 29 2014 06:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
it is. you are looking at it from the perspective of how you would play scum. Does not necessarily mean it is optimal or anything or how another player will go at it.


I have played scum enough times to get into the mindset of anyone that plays scum. He's never played mafia afaik (from the database) so this would be his FIRST time playing scum. First time scum are super nervous about doing anything out of the ordinary, they fit into trends, they will follow people, they won't speak their mind and they won't go against the grain of the town to speak up on something that no many people agree with.

His agenda is to win a point, going after someone with pretty much town reads from 100% of people is not what a first time mafia would do.



Somehow he even knows for a fact that I´m mafia. Sadly he also says that he will not disclose the reasons for that. As far as I know only people of 1 alignment can know the alignment of others for a fact (hint: it´s scum). He is 100% lying here. I´m not scum. Also, why even mention reasons you will not disclose anyway?
On May 30 2014 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
and I know for a fact that mderg is now mafia after that post he just made because of reasons that i will not disclose



Hf then continued by semi-pushing ritoky without actually putting him under pressure to not endanger the misslynch.



Short summary:
##vote: Holyflare
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 31 2014 15:07 GMT
#1353
On May 31 2014 16:28 mtamburini wrote:
Pretty much when I came back to the thread I saw he was mayor and put himself first, thats total BS as mayor I wouldve put myself 3rd or 4th in a position where if things were going downhill we cam trust in our towny mayor to put things back on right track.

Now if scum gets mayor they can put themselves first and force to pick from the other 2 to give scum a 1-0 lead which is what I think happened.

I dont think a towny mayor does that.

Then I looked at what bunnies suggested to do and I didnt like her suggestion.

Then holy flare tried to suggest that I stop talking about bunnies.

I think Bunnies could be mafia with HF and/or Ritoky. I know if we dont get 3 town wins in a row Bunnies group is going to go last and Im not 100% sure where its going to go but I know by the time it gets to our group we will give enough reads on that group as well as theirs.



What about my suggestion did you not like?

Take it from the perspective as if I was trying to be mayor.

I did not put my group first, but third. I DID NOT WANT MY GROUP GOING LAST UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

I disagreed completely with ritokys cell order minus cell A going first, because at first, i thought it was a open and close case.

So tell me exactly how i could have been with ritoky here if ritoky is mafia?

For all we know, it could have been odin!

Also, robik, stfu. You keep doing that, and im getting mislynched.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 31 2014 15:09 GMT
#1354
On May 31 2014 22:48 mtamburini wrote:
What everyone goes silent now?
Are you ashamed that you ML a town?

I know at least 4 town dun fucked up voting for MZ so where you all at?

Where do you think you went wrong, why did you read him scummy?

(This is for everyone but I would like Robik HF and bats to answer)


Also, im one of the town that fucked up.

I gave my entire case on MZ on why i thought he was scummy.

Also, can you point out where HF told you to stop talking about me?

And, didnt robik vote for odin?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 17:14 GMT
#1355
##Vote Holyflare
Computer says mafia
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 31 2014 17:15 GMT
#1356
i got back to my pc for the first time in 3 weeks and decided to get reacquainted with videogames
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 31 2014 17:20 GMT
#1357
Holyflare where are you?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 17:22 GMT
#1358
I'm pretty sure Robik is town, but I can't guarantee it or anything. HF had at least one post that made me think he's mafia. I haven't really read that bat guy but whatever. I'll do later but I'm hungover so idk.
Computer says mafia
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 31 2014 17:49 GMT
#1359
Robik if I had been voting ritoky yesterday, you would have voted MZ, right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 31 2014 17:55 GMT
#1360
On May 31 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
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On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.

kthx

For the record, I have 0 other reason to believe he's town.


On May 31 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:
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On May 31 2014 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)

As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.

What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin?

I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch.

As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia.

This is a horrible reason not to vote for MZ, and a barely decent reason not to vote for ritoky. You have no idea what newbies are capable of, ESPECIALLY if he's not actually a newbie. He was plenty aggressive in his last game as town iirc, and I see no reason why he couldn't put it on as scum too. There is zero reason why first time scummers (on this site, anyway) need to be assumed to be timid their first time.

On top of that, neither of these are reasons for Odin ACTUALLY BEING SCUM< when you said yourself you read the early posts and assumed he was town.

I just read like 2 posts of his and decided that...I didn't read any of his early stuff until I read whatever MZ quoted. I haven't read the drunk stuff that people cleared him for, but I assumed it was clear-worthy. I was mostly just going along with the consensus of people who were calling him town backed by my own insta-read on him.


On May 31 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote:
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On May 31 2014 05:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)

As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.

What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin?

I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch.

As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia.




is there any proof behind this or do you just have him by poe?

Absolutely not. I think that all of the people in cell A have good things going for them and MZ is probably the scummiest of the lot.

The fact that Odin seems to have felt safe and hasn't been back to the thread makes me lean scummier though. Like, the dude is in the first lynch group. He has to put in a solid 72 hours of work including the mayor shit (unless that was also 48hrs -- which would be lolworthy long), and he's not willing to be around for the last half of the last day that he can possibly contribute. DAFUQ is that bullshit.


On May 31 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:
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On May 31 2014 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)

As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.

What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin?

I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch.

As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia.


this leads odin to being the scum in cell A.

is there any proof behind this or do you just have him by poe?

Absolutely not. I think that all of the people in cell A have good things going for them and MZ is probably the scummiest of the lot.

The fact that Odin seems to have felt safe and hasn't been back to the thread makes me lean scummier though.
Like, the dude is in the first lynch group. He has to put in a solid 72 hours of work including the mayor shit (unless that was also 48hrs -- which would be lolworthy long), and he's not willing to be around for the last half of the last day that he can possibly contribute. DAFUQ is that bullshit.

Oh so you mean like ritoky who afked for the better part of the post-mayoral election?

And I absolutely did not clear odin for his drunk shit.

Whatever, I concede that it may be Rikoty, but like, I don't like MZ for scum anymore. I'm putting my ass on the line here. Like if we don't lynch MZ and it's a miss, I feel like I'm gonna be facing the wrath of 7 hells tomorrow.


0 reason to believe mz is town other than 2 of his cell being on mz, suddenly becomes all of cell A having good things going for them, uses odin's inactivity to redo a scum read and says he obviously feels safe despite if you actually read odins posts it looked like the complete opposite (lololol) after having no actual read on odin at all because he never read his posts (read the red text) this leads odin to being the scum in cell A.

so to summarise robik, he is SO SO SO confident that mz is NOT A BUS despite consensus being solidly on mz being scum all day that scum would most likely have to bus that he completey throws everything away to not vote mz. He even said he would vote other people to SAVE mz he was that confident. Highest TMI i've seen in a while




All through the mayor day mderg was town reading ritoky which culminated in:

On May 29 2014 05:51 mderg wrote:
##vote: ritoky

I don´t really agree with his cell order but I´m more sure about him being town than batsnacks. The vote is most likely going to be between these two. So I´m voting for my stronger townread.


Since then not much changed, he even said cell A "should be pretty clear".

Then you have this post:

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On May 30 2014 06:42 mderg wrote:
Giving my thoughts on Cell A:

At first I didn´t like ritoky and MZ and I thought one of them just wanted an easy misslynch in thrawn. Especially thrawn not posting at all and being replaced isn´t alignment indicative at all. Later in his mayor campaign ritoky actually showed some solid reasoning and elaborated on his cell order. Even though I didn´t agree with the cell order I thought he was townie and figured that having him as mayor would give us a well elaborated cell order.

Odin´s first post weren´t necessarily screaming town to me but they certainly weren´t scummy. I didn´t like how he called ritoky leading a clear agenda in his mayor campaign since I didn´t see any agenda in that. What I liked however was his point about MZ townreading people simply of going into the spotlight with their mayor campaigns. I also thought that MZ was sheeping ritoky for an easy misslynch at that point.
His Palmar scumread makes sense but I have a feeling that Palmar is actually town. Coupled with the fact that he didn´t like the freedom bullshit I read Odin as town at that point. That also means that I thought of MZ as scum.

Then the "drunken rage" hits and I´m really unsure about Odin. It might just be play from a frustrated townie but it might also be play by a frustrated scum. It didn´t make any sense to me.
At about the same time MZ started having some good posts that seemed townie to me. The reads he made in this post seemed natural to me.
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On May 30 2014 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On May 30 2014 03:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 30 2014 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
mz we've got your reads on your cell, explain the rest of the game to us, who else is scum?

Ok gimme a sec to get everything together. I'll tell you right now I think it's Palmar from B because Palmar who doesn't give a shit is scumpalmar

Cell C:
HF, you’ve been active all game and I generally agree with your reads and your “townpile.” I have you as town right now.
Batsnacks wanted group C to go first because he felt he “had a grasp on it” but hasn’t actually provided any insight into the group aside from his one big post where he “didn’t like” and was “not a fan” of lots of people but did not provide any solid reads. At the moment, only real scumread is me for “buddying ritoky.” His to big posts were a summary and setup speculation. Overall not really impressed with what I’ve seen.
ShaioPi is sadly less impressive than batsnacks. He calls HF, Tamburini, and ritoky scum and then never really revisits it. He doesn’t like group A and he wanted batsnacks to be mayor. Overall incredibly lurky and low content. I had called him scum for saying he didn’t like freedom but at the moment he’s the scummiest from group C imo.

Cell D
Tamburini rng’d a list of scum and then afk’d, null.
ObiWan is lurky as well. Has thrice promised a case and then reneged. The only real read he provides is sloosh as scum. There’s a casual open manner to his posts though imo so I’ll give him a pass until I see more substantive posts. I guess I’m cautiously optimistic about obiwan.
Sloosh is active lurking and he chainsaw’s Odin by going after me. I personally think his case is hilariously bad and because I think Odin is scum, I’m gonna throw down the omgus and say that sloosh is the scum from Cell D. His active lurking and lack of reads is bad enough, the chainsaw is icing on the cake.

Cell E
Layabout has been spectacularly useless, but he might be the scum from this group because he goes after ritoky, but then changes his tune after the lynch on me starts to pick up speed. This is just another chainsaw defense of odin. Layabout goes from saying ritoky’s plan makes perfect sense from a mafia perspective to saying I’m scum for buddying him. The only thing that makes sense here from a mafia perspective is layabout’s play because he realizes I’m an easier lynch than ritoky.
27NB has been active and her reads have been decent. Townread from me.
Mderg hasn’t really been pushing any reads, but what he has said has been well thought out and logical so I feel pretty good about him as well.

So my scum team looks like this:
Odin, Palmar, ShaioPi, Sloosh, Layabout. Most confident on the first two, least confident on ShaioPi .

I don´t really agree on Cell C. I wouldn´t put Hf down as town and his reasoning for calling ShiaoPi scum is not the most convincing. But I agree that ShiaoPi is scummiest in that group.
I completely agree with his reads on cell D. tamburini is a question mark and ObiWan was kinda strange with the case he promised. But sloosh was unconvincing, his case on MZ seemed kinda lazy and it seemed like he was actively lurking.
Cell E seems pretty clear to me. layabout´s play didn´t convince me at all and bunnies showed good activity as well as good elaboration on her reads.


So I´m stuck in the weird place of having 3 slight townreads in this cell. Right now I´d go with ritoky because I haven´t seen anything amazing from him recently but this is not how I want to actually lynch someone.



which pretty much calls everyone in cell A null/town and leaves his options open, I'd go so far as to say that ritoky is his actual strongest read based off of day 1 info + this post but somehow he said he'd probably end up voting ritoky at the end of it despite listing no negatives compared to the other 2. Then the reads he actually gives in the post if you focus on them don't legitimately add up and it doesn't seem like he's keeping consistant with it at all (I made a post on this before). He says sloosh's case was lazy and not great and sloosh's case was all about MZ sheeping, HE SAID IT WAS BAD OK BUT THEN HE TOWN READS ODIN FOR SAYING THE SAME THING ON MZ EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AFTER SLOOSH'S CASE. This is really really suspicious. He then gives a terrible reason to switch to ritoky over mz even though ritokys thoughts were pretty consitant with what he had been saying the whole day so it had not changed. Not to mention he tried to just push me for saying "mderg is definitely mafia" and his reason was that mafia has "too much information" so he pretty much just called himself mafia

Somehow he even knows for a fact that I´m mafia. Sadly he also says that he will not disclose the reasons for that. As far as I know only people of 1 alignment can know the alignment of others for a fact (hint: it´s scum). He is 100% lying here. I´m not scum. Also, why even mention reasons you will not disclose anyway?
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On May 30 2014 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
and I know for a fact that mderg is now mafia after that post he just made because of reasons that i will not disclose


Not to mention I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO.




auto-lynch palmar plz, he even used the same shitty logic as robik "if mz is scum i'm basically a free mislynch in my cell oh noooo!"

On May 31 2014 03:27 Palmar wrote:
Too bad I can't save you

##Unvote MZ
##Vote ritoky


Reason: I don't expect anyone to follow this but whatever, because it relies on me knowing I'm town.

if MZ is actually mafia, I'm basically a lock mislynch for his team. There is literally no reason for him as scum to call me out as being scum which might (even if weak) be at some point interpreted as me actually being town. if he's mafia he'd probably just not comment on me at all because that makes sure he doesn't accidentally absolve me.

On May 31 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:
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On May 31 2014 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)

As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.

What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin?

I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch.

As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia.


this leads odin to being the scum in cell A.

is there any proof behind this or do you just have him by poe?

Absolutely not. I think that all of the people in cell A have good things going for them and MZ is probably the scummiest of the lot.

The fact that Odin seems to have felt safe and hasn't been back to the thread makes me lean scummier though.
Like, the dude is in the first lynch group. He has to put in a solid 72 hours of work including the mayor shit (unless that was also 48hrs -- which would be lolworthy long), and he's not willing to be around for the last half of the last day that he can possibly contribute. DAFUQ is that bullshit.

Oh so you mean like ritoky who afked for the better part of the post-mayoral election?

And I absolutely did not clear odin for his drunk shit.

Whatever, I concede that it may be Rikoty, but like, I don't like MZ for scum anymore. I'm putting my ass on the line here. Like if we don't lynch MZ and it's a miss, I feel like I'm gonna be facing the wrath of 7 hells tomorrow.


Not associative, just mafia reasoning.




cell d is still a clusterfuck


##vote iamrobik


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