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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
mtamburini (1): Palmar ritoky (7): ritoky, Tehpoofter, slOosh, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, 27ninjabunnies, Meapak_Ziphh Holyflare (1): Holyflare batsnacks (4): batsnacks, ShiaoPi, layabout, OdinOfPergo Not voting (2): mtamburini, mderg Currently, ritoky is set to become the mayor. You have until Wednesday, May 28 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote on a mayor. Voting is mandatory! + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + VOTE: Holyflare voted Holyflare (post) VOTE: ritoky voted ritoky (post) VOTE: Tehpoofter voted ritoky (post) VOTE: slOosh voted ritoky (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted ritoky (post) VOTE: WaveofShadow voted ritoky (post) VOTE: Palmar voted mtamburini (post) VOTE: batsnacks voted batsnacks (post) VOTE: 27ninjabunnies voted ritoky (post) VOTE: Meapak_Ziphh voted Ritoky (ritoky) (post) VOTE: ShiaoPi voted batsnacks (post) VOTE: layabout voted batsnacks (post) VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted batsnacks (post) | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On May 29 2014 04:53 Holyflare wrote: lol what's with the 2 scummy ppl returning for batsnacks I thought it was 48 hours, batsnacks looks better than rito does. + i have never been fond of the america thing i can only tell myself it satire for so long before i start to get mad that the US gave up on isolationism #fuckamericanforeignpolicyinthelasthundredyearsndthedevastatingeffectsithashadonsomanypeople | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
batsnacks: C, A, B, E, D bunnies: A, D, E, C, B Holyflare: A, B, C, E, D If I missed some in the thread, someone tell me so I can update my list. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Just consider this: What is the advantage of lynching the mayor's group first? Lets assume that most people vote for the mayor because they believe he/she is town. If the mayor is in the cell to be lynched on day 1, that means that the first group up for lynch already has one person that the majority read as town. This gives town a starting advantage. If town can get the first victory, that is a lot of pressure on mafia. I would argue town winning day 1 is more important than town winning any other day, except for LYLO. Building momentum is important. Going into day 1 with a town read (the mayor) is an advantage. Consider this. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote: We've got less that 2 hours. Just consider this: What is the advantage of lynching the mayor's group first? Lets assume that most people vote for the mayor because they believe he/she is town. If the mayor is in the cell to be lynched on day 1, that means that the first group up for lynch already has one person that the majority read as town. This gives town a starting advantage. If town can get the first victory, that is a lot of pressure on mafia. I would argue town winning day 1 is more important than town winning any other day, except for LYLO. Building momentum is important. Going into day 1 with a town read (the mayor) is an advantage. Consider this. so why isn't A first in your order? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:05 ritoky wrote: Anyone else want to give their definitive Cell orders before the deadline? Other than mine I have: batsnacks: C, A, B, E, D bunnies: A, D, E, C, B Holyflare: A, B, C, E, D If I missed some in the thread, someone tell me so I can update my list. can you just add your order for clarifications sake? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
Cuz he is voting for himself, so if he thinks momentum is a large factor; he would want C to go first given he is elected. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:17 Holyflare wrote: can you just add your order for clarifications sake? batsnacks: C, A, B, E, D bunnies: A, D, E, C, B Holyflare: A, B, C, E, D ritoky: A, C, B, D, E | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote: batsnacks: C, A, B, E, D bunnies: A, D, E, C, B Holyflare: A, B, C, E, D ritoky: A, C, B, D, E why d before e when d is the most unreadable cell there is? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/7fb0307a2da8f69bc4c2d27b20de1896.png) Blue represents the biggest patriot, or town read I have in a cell as of now. Red represents the largest scum read I have in a cell as of now. White is generally speaking, the person in the middle. Some of these are much stronger reads than the others, and as you can clearly see; I have not determined a solid scum read in groups D or E yet. Most of these reads are previously explained in the thread, but if you would like clarification on any of them, first consult this: ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/I_Am_America_(And_So_Can_You!).jpg) Then, please ask. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:25 Holyflare wrote: why d before e when d is the most unreadable cell there is? As of now, if it gets there, I trust the members of group E in a LYLO situation more than I trust the members of group D. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
So sloosh and mderg are mainly the ones that i'm confused about, sloosh really has done nothing other than falsely "read" the last cell game and talk about kind of nothing. He even asked batsnacks a question that batsnacks had been asked a page before. So why the town read on him at all? Also, mderg, did you not read the interaction between me and him? His thoughts had not progressed whatsoever since he was last in the thread and tried to add reasoning from the page before his return into his current reads like that's what he meant at the time. What i can't get my head around is you not town reading bunnies over mderg at this point it's increasingly odd. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote: Also, to stick with the theme of freedom, I have will now give my reads in an appropriate manner: Blue represents the biggest patriot, or town read I have in a cell as of now. Red represents the largest scum read I have in a cell as of now. White is generally speaking, the person in the middle. Some of these are much stronger reads than the others, and as you can clearly see; I have not determined a solid scum read in groups D or E yet. Most of these reads are previously explained in the thread, but if you would like clarification on any of them, first consult this: Then, please ask. I´m curious why you townread me over bunnies. I´d also like to know your reasoning on cell C since I can´t really get a hang on it. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
The last two would be probably E then D as of right now. Simply because I think we have the least information about those two at the moment and I can't say I have particularly strong feelings about any of the people outside of bunnies in those groups. I could be convinced to push D up after group A into the 2nd spot if someone convinces me of that sick tambo read, cuz his post was strange. I think it was him trying to make a joke about golden sun, but it fell flat and was awk. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:32 Holyflare wrote: Wow those reads are like......off :/ So sloosh and mderg are mainly the ones that i'm confused about, sloosh really has done nothing other than falsely "read" the last cell game and talk about kind of nothing. He even asked batsnacks a question that batsnacks had been asked a page before. So why the town read on him at all? Also, mderg, did you not read the interaction between me and him? His thoughts had not progressed whatsoever since he was last in the thread and tried to add reasoning from the page before his return into his current reads like that's what he meant at the time. What i can't get my head around is you not town reading bunnies over mderg at this point it's increasingly odd. Group D I was hesitant to make anyone any color at all. It is BY FAR the most flimsy blue read. But if you compare him to tambo, who has literally done crap all in the thread; and ObiWan whom I feel was actively avoiding productive discussion....well, I am left with one conclusion. And my mderg read is very simple: he admitted he was wrong about me. Given the context in which it happened too, makes it even more believable. He could have very easily come into the thread and called what I was doing BS, cuz right after he did Odin started posting about how I was full of crap too. It is very easy for him to just stick to that line at that point and try and ride it out, but he full on admitted he skimmed and was wrong after rereading some decent reasoning. For now that sells me on him as town. The big problem I have with E over D, is that in group D I would not exactly be massively opposed to getting rid of all 3; but I have none of those feelings about anyone in group E. I have a general town feel from all 3, which is troublesome. And as for your recent comment, there's like 12 pages of material between now and that post. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Mderg only admitted he was wrong because he was pressured with evidence to the contrary by Odin (+ points odin). Do mafia under pressure admit they were wrong when there is evidence present or stick it out and flat out lie in the face of an obvious mistake? | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
I don´t really agree with his cell order but I´m more sure about him being town than batsnacks. The vote is most likely going to be between these two. So I´m voting for my stronger townread. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2014 05:51 mderg wrote: ##vote: ritoky I don´t really agree with his cell order but I´m more sure about him being town than batsnacks. The vote is most likely going to be between these two. So I´m voting for my stronger townread. so what order would you like? | ||
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