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On May 28 2014 14:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 14:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: ritoky
I can't honestly say I trust you completely, but I trust MZ, and I don't know when I'll be around tomorrow to play. Would still be nice to know what you intend to do with cells though.
I see a potential problem here where if my cell (or any other) is the easiest but also the most active we lose good scumhunting so I'm curious as to how to get around that. As of my previous post the order I want is A, C, B, E/D. E and D are currently interchangeable in my mind, E currently leads D, but the margin is negligible. Not much has occurred in my mind to change that very drastically. What would be your order as of now? (anyone can answer this as well)
Only issue I see with leaving D and E last is we also don't have any what their play will be like at LYLO (hell we dont' even know much of what their play is like right now.) I honestly can't tell if there's a lot of risk/reward involved with these mayor choices or if it doesn't matter at all either way because you're either eliminating the coinflippy/worse players early and saving the most active for later, or removing the active ones early and saving the worse/harder lynches for later in the game.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
No point ever risking coin flips at the start when you can get +town points
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On May 28 2014 15:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 14:56 ritoky wrote:On May 28 2014 14:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: ritoky
I can't honestly say I trust you completely, but I trust MZ, and I don't know when I'll be around tomorrow to play. Would still be nice to know what you intend to do with cells though.
I see a potential problem here where if my cell (or any other) is the easiest but also the most active we lose good scumhunting so I'm curious as to how to get around that. As of my previous post the order I want is A, C, B, E/D. E and D are currently interchangeable in my mind, E currently leads D, but the margin is negligible. Not much has occurred in my mind to change that very drastically. What would be your order as of now? (anyone can answer this as well) Only issue I see with leaving D and E last is we also don't have any what their play will be like at LYLO (hell we dont' even know much of what their play is like right now.) I honestly can't tell if there's a lot of risk/reward involved with these mayor choices or if it doesn't matter at all either way because you're either eliminating the coinflippy/worse players early and saving the most active for later, or removing the active ones early and saving the worse/harder lynches for later in the game.
I guess you have a point, but my thought process as of now is that if you leave the less active players until late in the game it will result in 2 things:
1) they will have more time in the game so thus they will have more total posts and more to read them off of. For example, Person A is a lurker who posts...idk 2x per day. If we leave their cell until 6 days into the game, at least we will have 12 posts from that person. As opposed to putting them first and having 2 posts to read them off of.
2) It forces lurky people to have extensive voting histories. If someone lurks and is a coinflip, the best way in my mind to combat that is to get solid reads on other people in the game as town or mafia and force them to develop a voting history. There's no requirement in the game that they have to give us exorbitant amounts of information in the form of posts, so why not force them to give us as much information as they are required to give us before we have to make judgments.
You do agree that Cell A is the obvious first choice in all cases though right? Or do you hate George Washington?
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How can you even decide groups before everyone has spoken. Much confusion. Very pushy!
Let's move away from this policy nono stuff and talk about the peeps! You start because I'm lazy and watching some cookery stuff
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On May 28 2014 15:13 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 15:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 14:56 ritoky wrote:On May 28 2014 14:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: ritoky
I can't honestly say I trust you completely, but I trust MZ, and I don't know when I'll be around tomorrow to play. Would still be nice to know what you intend to do with cells though.
I see a potential problem here where if my cell (or any other) is the easiest but also the most active we lose good scumhunting so I'm curious as to how to get around that. As of my previous post the order I want is A, C, B, E/D. E and D are currently interchangeable in my mind, E currently leads D, but the margin is negligible. Not much has occurred in my mind to change that very drastically. What would be your order as of now? (anyone can answer this as well) Only issue I see with leaving D and E last is we also don't have any what their play will be like at LYLO (hell we dont' even know much of what their play is like right now.) I honestly can't tell if there's a lot of risk/reward involved with these mayor choices or if it doesn't matter at all either way because you're either eliminating the coinflippy/worse players early and saving the most active for later, or removing the active ones early and saving the worse/harder lynches for later in the game. I guess you have a point, but my thought process as of now is that if you leave the less active players until late in the game it will result in 2 things: 1) they will have more time in the game so thus they will have more total posts and more to read them off of. For example, Person A is a lurker who posts...idk 2x per day. If we leave their cell until 6 days into the game, at least we will have 12 posts from that person. As opposed to putting them first and having 2 posts to read them off of. 2) It forces lurky people to have extensive voting histories. If someone lurks and is a coinflip, the best way in my mind to combat that is to get solid reads on other people in the game as town or mafia and force them to develop a voting history. There's no requirement in the game that they have to give us exorbitant amounts of information in the form of posts, so why not force them to give us as much information as they are required to give us before we have to make judgments. You do agree that Cell A is the obvious first choice in all cases though right? Or do you hate George Washington?
What I worry about is the lurky/inactive/bad players just not giving a shit when it comes down to it (I've seen it happen a fair amount) close to /at LYLO. This may be just me worrying where it is not warranted though I suppose but LYLO always gets my panties in a bunch. Actually though I suppose if we go 3-0 with the first few (or hell even 2-1) then that makes it the obvious better option.
As far as A being first, I'm not sure it really matters to me which of the three goes in which order. If we want to leave my group 'till third because we already have it 'solved' and we know Poofter and I will be active then that could work (though there's obviously some potential for fuckups the longer it's left), but it may be the same if you view your cell the same way (as an outsider I don't see the same 50% I would assume you do if town).
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On May 28 2014 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
How can you even decide groups before everyone has spoken. Much confusion. Very pushy!
Let's move away from this policy nono stuff and talk about the peeps! You start because I'm lazy and watching some cookery stuff
I'm going to bed rl soon so it'll have to wait. I mostly want to hear more from people in your cell tbh.
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On May 28 2014 15:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
How can you even decide groups before everyone has spoken. Much confusion. Very pushy!
Let's move away from this policy nono stuff and talk about the peeps! You start because I'm lazy and watching some cookery stuff I'm going to bed rl soon so it'll have to wait. I mostly want to hear more from people in your cell tbh.
Can I get a cell order as of now from you before you go to bed? Don't really need reasons if you don't have the time.
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On May 28 2014 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
How can you even decide groups before everyone has spoken. Much confusion. Very pushy!
Let's move away from this policy nono stuff and talk about the peeps! You start because I'm lazy and watching some cookery stuff
Who would you like me to talk about? I think I have spoken about everyone and where I stand on them at this point.
As for deciding things before everyone has spoken. HAH OBVIOUSLY you have never been to murrica.
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I'm fine with yours. I'm having trouble deciding if I want my cell first or 3rd tbh but other than that what you came up with is probably fine.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
I dunnooo people that haven't talked but you know kind of how they play or something
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On May 28 2014 15:43 Holyflare wrote:
I dunnooo people that haven't talked but you know kind of how they play or something
Well the two people who have yet to speak since the game started are mderg and thrawn.
I think that thrawn is basically defaulted to mafia until I have any information to the contrary.
I have never played with mderg in my 2 games of TL mafia experience. So I don't know.
I will add this to the thread, which I have not added thus far. I am 81% sure that poofter and MZ are the same alignment. How they both very quickly read me as town and got on board the freedom train in a similar manner is indicates this to me. Right now they are in the freedom huddle with me. What do you think about this?
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Yep, more of dem typing errors.
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On May 28 2014 10:20 WaveofShadow wrote:I don't have much to say about Palmar right now. What I commented is exactly what I think. If he fucked up and did the exact same thing he did as scum in Cell I, then it will be a hilarious reason to lynch him, but that's now why I currently think he is scum. I don't think I'd ever base a scumread solely off of that. The reason I believe him to be scum is because it is way more likely to me that Poofter is town. That one's based on his very first comment of the game too, hence this: Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Oh shit Palmer or Wos mafia.
WoS how happy are you to be in this game bro?
Starting the read.
@mtamburini I hope you have your fake claim ready mine is this:
I have rolled Bouncer. You have 2 abilities which you can use only one. They are a) Bounce - Once during the game take a cell from the front of the line to the back. b) Cuts - Once during the game take any cell and place it at the front of the line.
What is your claim tambo? I have like 3 more I thought of yesterday if you need to borrow one for when we lynch you. Very happy. MZ who is the scum in my cell now that two of us have posted, go!
looks like my coinflip was right, you're way to apologetic about calling me mafia. At least poofter has balls.
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Counting of votes:
ritoky (5): ritoky, Tehpoofter, slOosh, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow
Holyflare (1): Holyflare
Not voting (9): mtamburini, mderg, Palmar, ShiaoPi, batsnacks, Meapak_Ziphh, layabout, thrawn2112, 27ninjabunnies
Currently, ritoky is set to become the mayor.
You have until Wednesday, May 28 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote on a mayor.
Voting is mandatory!
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: Holyflare voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: ritoky voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Tehpoofter voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: WaveofShadow voted ritoky ( post)
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OdinOfPergo replaces thrawn2112.
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skimmed through this. So far I like hf´s mayor campaign best. I definitely don´t want ritoky as mayor because the freedom shit annoys me.
The thing about Poof brought up about Palmar is nothing I´d read into.
Some more thoughts will follow later when I´m caught up.
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join me in voting mtamburini mderg.
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On May 28 2014 22:07 Palmar wrote:
join me in voting mtamburini mderg.
I won´t do that. I think the mayor role actually matters and mtamburini did nothing except talk about rng. Definitely not getting my vote.
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I haven't actually read the game so I wasn't aware what tamburini posted. I just think he might be a great leader.
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