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Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 16 2014 16:09 GMT
#78
/in
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 25 2014 20:39 GMT
#136
/confirm

Anytime is good for me.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:03 GMT
#213
So this sqrt guy sure seems to enjoy talking, so he's probably mafia.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:07 GMT
#215
Yes, it is my first time and clearly you have bad tastes in Starcraft players.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:21 GMT
#229
I never actually played mafia, I play werewolf in real life, which is pretty much the same I guess, and I don't think him talking is indicative of him being mafia or not, I just think he likes talking.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:26 GMT
#241
On April 29 2014 11:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 11:21 Yell0w wrote:
I never actually played mafia, I play werewolf in real life, which is pretty much the same I guess, and I don't think him talking is indicative of him being mafia or not, I just think he likes talking.


May I point out you said this.

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On April 29 2014 11:03 Yell0w wrote:
So this sqrt guy sure seems to enjoy talking, so he's probably mafia.


Yet you don't think him talking a lot is indicative of being mafia?

Contradicting yourself already?


Ohhh! You got me, I'm mafia.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:33 GMT
#248
And in how many games have you been where somebody claim town and ends up being mafia? I think that happens more often than people who claim mafia and are mafia, therefore I'm statistically innocent.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:46 GMT
#261
@bunnies: Why would I need luck? Are you that convinced I'm mafia? Or is it that you just want to lynch me anyways for other reasons? Like, you actually are mafia and you're just jumping on any reason to lynch a town?
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:55 GMT
#271
On April 29 2014 11:50 Amiko wrote:
@Yell0w: What do you think of ninjabunnies voting for you? As in, do you see that as a more town response by her? A more mafia response by her? Neutral?


I don't really know, she has a reasoning for it, she played with people who claimed mafia like that and ended up actually being mafia, but obviously it's flawed logic and anecdotal evidence, it's not because someone did it that me making a joke about being mafia means I'm mafia.

But that fact that she has that reason makes me think she's not doing it as a mafia play, but obviously she might just have come up with it to make it seems that way, so I don't know.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 02:57 GMT
#273
@Bunnies

I didn't change my read, when I said sqrt was probably mafia because he talked, I wasn't being serious, so when you asked I told you what I really thought. It's insane to me that you would take that as me contradicting myself, which is why I then joked saying "you got me I'm mafia".
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 03:18 GMT
#295
Well I am glad this issue got resolved rather peacefully, I now unfortunately have to sleep, but I will see you all tomorrow.

Also I'm pretty convinced bunnies is town now, probably epishade too, the rest I don't know.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 03:20 GMT
#297
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response?
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 12:47 GMT
#355
Just woke up, first thing I see is clearly the discussion on me restarted because I asked a question to ritoky( I think I got your name right this time), and just to make it clear here, I wasn't asking how to be more towny, I was asking him how he would have responded, because he said my response wasn't ideal, so I was curious what the ideal response, in his opinion, was, didn't know asking questions was frowned upon.

I was actually really happy with my response and wouldn't have changed it in any way, I think it created a big conversation really early in day 1, which is pretty great. And I have a coach if I have questions like "how to be more town?", I wouldn't ask that in the thread.

Still catching up though, will probably post more.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 12:55 GMT
#356
On April 29 2014 12:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On April 29 2014 12:15 Eden1892 wrote:
Right, then, time to get to work.

##VOTE: Sweetfrost


I mean, I'm all for reaction testing, but can someone explain to me why this is okay to do, and what I did apparently is scummy as fuck?

Especially when I havent seen sweetfrost talk once?


Just to point it out, how is this question better? She's basically asking the same thing, wondering what she did that was scummy so she can stop doing it.

I'm just saying.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 13:37 GMT
#358
On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote:
Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened.

1 Sarcasm
2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny.

These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far.


1. Sarcasm? Really? How is that even remotely close to a good reason?
2. I did not ask that.

I find this whole post really weird, why are you so intent on killing me for sarcasm? And then when bunnies ask more questions about what you think of me, you just disappear and don't answer.

On April 29 2014 13:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
2. I wanted to see what Yellow thought to my questioning, to see if we had the same read on sqrt. Because here is why. There are two types of mafia imo: The ones who lurk, and the mafia who tend to want to be the first to talk or talk the most. I wanted to see what Yellow read into Sqrt, as if he was thought Sqrt was the latter mafia.




I agree 100% with you, some mafia talks a lot, which is why I said he was mafia, to get a reaction from him of something and maybe start a conversation, because what was going on seemed pointless to me. A conversation did arise, which is good, but I do want to point out that sqrt, despite talking a lot early, then barely talked when we started talking about me. And like I thought him talking at the beginning wasn't indicative of anything, since he might just be a talkative person, I don't think the fact he stopped means anything. It could be mafia play, talk a lot about pointless stuff then stop when we're talking about lynching a town and jump on the BW later to get an easy lynch but not be a target if the BW never happens, but it could be town play and he just happened to be neutral on me and didn't want to disrupt the conversation.

Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 13:55 GMT
#359
On April 29 2014 20:10 mtamburini wrote:
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On April 29 2014 15:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On April 29 2014 15:11 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm not as sure on Yell0w as you guys are, but I'm not bothered by him being lynched.

@bunnies: Do you still think mtamburini is scummy? And if so, how do you feel about the fact that he's been pushing Yell0w harder than everyone else except for you?


So here's my thing on tamburini.

He comes out immediately and declares himself as town leader. Which gives me two scenerios: he is actually town and thinks he can actually lead this game, or he is mafia wanting to look townie.

Hence why I put him on my scum list.

So I was sorta working the Yell0w/Tamburini angle at the same time. Tamburini came out and defended himself by bringing up some ogi stuff from some epicmafia games. That's fine. Whatever. But no one read into this. Either people thought he is townie, or the thing on Yell0w was worth more reading into.

Then, when I rescinded my vote off of Yell0w, for multiple reasons, Tamburini wanted to jump right back on him, for him asking how he should have responded to my question. I find this weird. Especially since Tamburini immediately voted. Hence why I asked tamburini to talk more on Yell0w for his reads.

So as of now, im null on Tamburini until he answers my question, but I'm leaning more scummy for him.


What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today..

His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out.

Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia.


I feel like you contradicted yourself, you say we should lynch me because sarcasm and asking how to be more town, same reason as before, but this time you say that sarcasm is indicative of an experienced mafia, and you said before that asking how to be more town is a rookie mafia mistake, so take your pick, am I an experience mafia or a rookie mafia? Can't have it both ways.

@ahswtini Don't know how I caused chaos and confusion, if you consider a big conversation to be chaos and confusion, then sure okay, but then you also become my top suspect. There was no serious conversation going on before I and bunnies started talking and I'm the one not taking the game seriously? I just thought bunnies' attack on me was extremely silly

@Sweetfrost I'm not gonna call you sweety, just saying.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 17:08 GMT
#375
On April 29 2014 23:21 Sweetfrost wrote:
I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks.


What remarks were joking and/or sarcastic since I became a suspect?

On April 30 2014 00:13 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 22:55 Yell0w wrote:
On April 29 2014 20:10 mtamburini wrote:
On April 29 2014 15:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On April 29 2014 15:11 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm not as sure on Yell0w as you guys are, but I'm not bothered by him being lynched.

@bunnies: Do you still think mtamburini is scummy? And if so, how do you feel about the fact that he's been pushing Yell0w harder than everyone else except for you?


So here's my thing on tamburini.

He comes out immediately and declares himself as town leader. Which gives me two scenerios: he is actually town and thinks he can actually lead this game, or he is mafia wanting to look townie.

Hence why I put him on my scum list.

So I was sorta working the Yell0w/Tamburini angle at the same time. Tamburini came out and defended himself by bringing up some ogi stuff from some epicmafia games. That's fine. Whatever. But no one read into this. Either people thought he is townie, or the thing on Yell0w was worth more reading into.

Then, when I rescinded my vote off of Yell0w, for multiple reasons, Tamburini wanted to jump right back on him, for him asking how he should have responded to my question. I find this weird. Especially since Tamburini immediately voted. Hence why I asked tamburini to talk more on Yell0w for his reads.

So as of now, im null on Tamburini until he answers my question, but I'm leaning more scummy for him.


What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today..

His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out.

Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia.


I feel like you contradicted yourself, you say we should lynch me because sarcasm and asking how to be more town, same reason as before, but this time you say that sarcasm is indicative of an experienced mafia, and you said before that asking how to be more town is a rookie mafia mistake, so take your pick, am I an experience mafia or a rookie mafia? Can't have it both ways.

@ahswtini Don't know how I caused chaos and confusion, if you consider a big conversation to be chaos and confusion, then sure okay, but then you also become my top suspect. There was no serious conversation going on before I and bunnies started talking and I'm the one not taking the game seriously? I just thought bunnies' attack on me was extremely silly

@Sweetfrost I'm not gonna call you sweety, just saying.


That was meant to say inexperienced my phone must of auto corrected it.

And to say I disappeared after my comment some people acquire sleep to function. I was unaware I had to report when I went to bed and woke up. Do you want to know when in eating too? Maybe when I go to the bathroom as well?




And I'm the one under fire for using sarcasm? Now that's laughable. I wasn't even saying you were mafia because you contradicted yourself, I just wanted to point out your reasons for voting against me were not very good.

And you're allowed to disappear, but the timing was weird and then you came back and didn't answer her question, so...
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 17:39 GMT
#382
And about the whole "why do I think bunnies is town" situation, it's just because Occam's razor, she might be mafia, and made a good play to make us think she's town, it's a possibility, but it's unlikely. But there is a red flag next to her name in my head. And I was never really suspicious of her, I kind of implied she might be mafia, it was mostly just to see her reaction to that, she pretty much just ignored it so I don't think I got anything from that, but overall I believe her, for now. Mostly because she kept pushing even though nobody seemed to really agree with her, it took a little bit before she unvoted me.

And about Epishade, I think it's just because he was the first to defend me, which would make no sense as a mafia play, why wouldn't he just jump on the BW of an easy lynch? The possibility raised by dravernor that they're both mafia and made this plot so both of them would look town is, I think, unlikely, because, again, Occam's razor.

But I'm not sure on either of them, it's just the most likely scenario is that they're both town, by a pretty wide margin, I think.

And about Eden, I was asked, though I was planning on talking about it a little bit anyways, he was actually the person I thought was the most suspicious last night, I just don't think his behavior made sense. I didn't have time to analyse it fully though and I will probably talk about it some more, but I am glad someone brought it up.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 18:51 GMT
#403
Okay, to expand about Eden of what I thought was weird, first of all he said bunnies had a chip on her shoulder and when asked what he was talking about, he just said intuition and to not worry about it, it felt really random to me, as did the post where he says bunnies was his strongest town read not involving his role PM. I have no idea why he would feel the need to say that. And also I feel like he didn't take a side in me being suspicious or not until others said they didn't find me suspicious, just BWing the popular opinion.

And then when bunnies unvoted me, he was very fast to randomly vote against someone else and then changed his vote almost instantly.And the last thing I read before going to sleep was that he said what bunnies did wasn't scummy at all and people who thought that were fools or worse. Again, no idea why he would say that.

So I don't really understand him and I don't know what to take of all that, I just thought his behavior was really... weird, so I found him suspicious. But looking at it right now, it doesn't necessarily strike me as being mafia plays, so I just don't know.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 19:25 GMT
#407
@Epishade

Just wanted to say that I agree about everything you said on Sweetfrost, and I also wanted to add that I feel like he didn't even read the entire thread when he says something like:

On April 29 2014 23:21 Sweetfrost wrote:
I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks.


When I really don't think I made any sarcastic or joking remarks since I became a suspect, I think he just went with what tamburini said to say I'm the prime suspect without actually reading what I said.


Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody.
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