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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 10 2014 22:17 GMT
#1241
We did it guys!
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 10 2014 22:20 GMT
#1242
Nice, I don't know how meat knew he was the roleblocker, but great call.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 11 2014 00:01 GMT
#1243
Meat had a very good read, which probably means he will die tonight.

Meat, I would like your reads and where you are at this game with it.

I also read through Dfs' filter.

So we lynched another scum. I'm thinking that dfs didn't scum read any of his partners in his, so I'm looking at the ones he mainly avoided or gave more of a town read on. So Eden, Epishade, and Ahs are on my list. He went really hard on Meat and Yell0w in his reads, so I'm willing to let them pass for another day. Plus Meat with his push on dfs, and role reading, I'm pretty sure Meat would not take a chance on losing a partner.

So we have to assume there are 2 mafia left.

My FOS would be Eden and Ahs first, Epishade/Ahs. I just don't see a Epishade/Eden team here, but will need to look over their filters a bit more before I fully come to that conclusion.

The Ahs vote on me is just weird, and I don't see where he came up with that vote and why.


I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 03:30 GMT
#1244
So i should have explained this before the dfs was lynched. But w/e

So like 2-3 days ago i claimed that dfs was the ledge. Based on intuition and analyzing his posting style i was like 100% sure he was the ledge. So with this in mind i ended up setting up a potential two part trap to catch the other mafia. This occured when dravernor was getting lynched. I put a lot of pressure on lynching dfs, and tried to see who would vote for him and who wouldn't. The resulting situation occured.

Ahs finally convinced that i would not be lynched, ended up switch his vote. However i told him to vote for dfs, because he believed that both dfs and I were def scum. I told him that we would could agree to vote on dfs instead of dravernor. Ahs ends up rejecting my offer without any explanation switches his vote to dravernor.

From this i concluded that dfs was indeed a role, and that ahs was mafia. The fact that ahs did not want to vote for dfs meant that he was an important role. Epishade iirc was willing to vote for dfs and then switched his vote to dravernor. Eden on the other hand told everyone to ignore yell0w but not me iirc. Seems kind of odd because i was pushing for dfs a lot harder than yell0w. The reason that eden pushed for yell0w was because he is an easier lynch target.

So anyway i spend the whole day putting a ton of pressure on dfs cause im like 100% certain he's the ledge. This leads to mtamb gettign shot. Why would mtamb get shot? Sure you can argue that he was vigi it would be best to kill him. But his town leading powers aren't even that great. As a mafia the best thing to do would , be roleblock tamb and kill a town that was on the right case. However tamb had posted that he wasn't going to shoot me, yell0w, and i don't think he would have shot bunnies. That leads to him hitting a mafia and getting us a mislynch which would have been used to determine if epi or eden were mafia. So the reason that mtamb gets shot is becuase dfs is the ledge. Dfs was on the scum hunting radar, and got lynched today really easily. if they had left the vigi alive he would have gotten a shot off.

So by mtambs death last night, i confirmed that dfs was the ledge and mafia in my mind.

The second part of the trap was the fake roll block. The first roleblock claim was true on the night that mtamb should have shot yell0w but didn't (cause he wasn't vigi). The second roleblock claim was false. Yesterday i was not roleblocked. The town would have been skeptical of my roleblock but only a mafia would try to call me out as 100% false. The reason is that because the first roleblock was true they could only try to put suspicion on me but the second roleblock was false. Its none other than dfs that blatantly calls me out. No offense to dfs, but i don't think he is a strong enough mafia player to claim that it was 100% false unles he knew that it was becasue he was mafia. Even bunnies and epishade who imo play better mafia could only say that my claim was weird.

So dfs gets put on the lynch block, and everyone is like aight, i feel this. And guess who ends up being really unhappy with the lynch? Ahs and eden. Ahs, says some stuff, that while i was reading a while ago seemed very contracdictory.

At this point in the game, i think i've figured out all of the power roles on both sides of town and mafia.

I think this game is pretty much over.

so tomorrow we lynch ahs
and then we lynch Eden.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 03:31 GMT
#1245
i have some other thoughts as well, but i don't think putting them down will help town. I would like to come out as vanilla town with a kick.

And I'm definitely not parity cop.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#1246
if you guys have any questions feel free to ask. I might not answer them, but you should still ask.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 11 2014 05:01 GMT
#1247
Ok Meat, question.

If you fake claimed being roleblocked on day 4, why were there no other claims on people being roleblocked? I can't see any incentive for dfs not to roleblock someone, even anybody at random. Had he done so, you wouldn't have been able to claim being roleblocked.

What incentive would dfs have had not to roleblock someone, unless he were holding it back so you could claim being roleblocked, which I don't understand why he would do that unless you two were partners and this was a serious bussing attempt through you using your "analytical skills" to lynch dfs as a confirmed roleblocker when, in actuality, you knew he was roleblocker all along.

But then now you claim that you weren't actually being roleblocked and that you made the claim up, which means we're still missing a roleblock then from dfs. I have a hard time thinking you slipped as mafia when posting this fake roleblock claim as a way to figure out dfs was mafia, and forgot to take into account the missing roleblock.

Wtf.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 11 2014 05:04 GMT
#1248
Argh, shit why do I always think of this shit right after I post. They could have roleblocked Tamburini, and that's why you're fake claim through them off.

Ok I get it now. Forget my above post.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 05:07 GMT
#1249
Tamb was a guarenteed roleblock. Since he died i claimed his roleblock. Dfs also only posts to discredit by roleblock, and then barely replies to any accusations.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 11 2014 05:07 GMT
#1250
Holy shit, I used the wrong 'your' and 'threw'. I need to go back to school.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 05:16 GMT
#1251
Epishade im soooo vanilla town it hurts
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 11 2014 05:50 GMT
#1252
On May 11 2014 14:16 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Epishade im soooo vanilla town it hurts

Same here, but you don't have to tell me.

Ok, so I'm going through Tamburini's filter quickly and figuring this out then.

Night 1, he said he was going to shoot Yellow. He was likely roleblocked here so that town would organize a mislynch against Yellow.

Night 2, he implies that he'll shoot Yellow. Meat and Bunny get roleblocked, but Tamburini doesn't.

Night 3, Tamburini asks who he should shoot.

I say we should shoot Ahs as the best shot. Then meat after that probably.
Eden says to shoot Yellow, but Ahs is also a reasonable shot.
Bunny suggests between Ahs, dfs, and Eden.
Ahs says to shoot dfs.
Yellow suggests Ahs and dfs.

Every single person had mentioned Ahs (except for himself obviously). dfs comes second, but Ahs has more against him than dfs at that point. I made a big case against him and Yellow made a smaller case against dfs, but I think Ahs was more likely than anyone to possibly get shot by Tamburini. Tamburini gets roleblocked, and I don't see why they would do that unless it were to protect Ahs.

I know I thought I had cleared Ahs before when we lynched dfs, but I think I gotta take that back. I'm thinking Ahs is the next lynch for us.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 06:25 GMT
#1253
im all on that hype train
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 06:49 GMT
#1254
I kind of want to put down whose rolea i think belong to who. But the objectuve is to win and im not that cocky
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 07:00 GMT
#1255
wait why shoot me?!?!? im not on that part of the train
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 11 2014 07:06 GMT
#1256
I think you misunderstood me. Tamburini was asking everyone for who they'd advocate to shoot. That was when I posted about Ahs as being the best shot. Then I thought you would be the second best shot after Ahs.

"Night 3, Tamburini asks who he should shoot.

I say we should shoot Ahs as the best shot. Then meat after that probably."

- That's just me giving a breakdown of what I said about who Tamburini should shoot. Then I listed other people's thoughts on who to shoot after that. I'm not advocating you anymore though.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2014 07:17 GMT
#1257
back on the hype train.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
May 11 2014 10:11 GMT
#1258
On May 11 2014 14:50 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 14:16 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Epishade im soooo vanilla town it hurts

Same here, but you don't have to tell me.

Ok, so I'm going through Tamburini's filter quickly and figuring this out then.

Night 1, he said he was going to shoot Yellow. He was likely roleblocked here so that town would organize a mislynch against Yellow.

Night 2, he implies that he'll shoot Yellow. Meat and Bunny get roleblocked, but Tamburini doesn't.

Night 3, Tamburini asks who he should shoot.

I say we should shoot Ahs as the best shot. Then meat after that probably.
Eden says to shoot Yellow, but Ahs is also a reasonable shot.
Bunny suggests between Ahs, dfs, and Eden.
Ahs says to shoot dfs.
Yellow suggests Ahs and dfs.

Every single person had mentioned Ahs (except for himself obviously). dfs comes second, but Ahs has more against him than dfs at that point. I made a big case against him and Yellow made a smaller case against dfs, but I think Ahs was more likely than anyone to possibly get shot by Tamburini. Tamburini gets roleblocked, and I don't see why they would do that unless it were to protect Ahs.

I know I thought I had cleared Ahs before when we lynched dfs, but I think I gotta take that back. I'm thinking Ahs is the next lynch for us.

Except after the events of that night I argued hard since mtamburini wasn't roleblocked on the night he died, and he was going to shoot me or dfs, that I wasn't mafia. For that same reason, and also the how unanimous the dfs vote was, I was really scared that he wasn't mafia either. I had no idea he WAS blocked, and meat was lying. That isn't even confirmed, we won't know if mtamburini was really blocked, and we won't know if meat is being truthful or not.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 11 2014 20:56 GMT
#1259
On May 11 2014 12:30 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So i should have explained this before the dfs was lynched. But w/e

So like 2-3 days ago i claimed that dfs was the ledge. Based on intuition and analyzing his posting style i was like 100% sure he was the ledge. So with this in mind i ended up setting up a potential two part trap to catch the other mafia. This occured when dravernor was getting lynched. I put a lot of pressure on lynching dfs, and tried to see who would vote for him and who wouldn't. The resulting situation occured.

Ahs finally convinced that i would not be lynched, ended up switch his vote. However i told him to vote for dfs, because he believed that both dfs and I were def scum. I told him that we would could agree to vote on dfs instead of dravernor. Ahs ends up rejecting my offer without any explanation switches his vote to dravernor.

From this i concluded that dfs was indeed a role, and that ahs was mafia. The fact that ahs did not want to vote for dfs meant that he was an important role. Epishade iirc was willing to vote for dfs and then switched his vote to dravernor. Eden on the other hand told everyone to ignore yell0w but not me iirc. Seems kind of odd because i was pushing for dfs a lot harder than yell0w. The reason that eden pushed for yell0w was because he is an easier lynch target.

So anyway i spend the whole day putting a ton of pressure on dfs cause im like 100% certain he's the ledge. This leads to mtamb gettign shot. Why would mtamb get shot? Sure you can argue that he was vigi it would be best to kill him. But his town leading powers aren't even that great. As a mafia the best thing to do would , be roleblock tamb and kill a town that was on the right case. However tamb had posted that he wasn't going to shoot me, yell0w, and i don't think he would have shot bunnies. That leads to him hitting a mafia and getting us a mislynch which would have been used to determine if epi or eden were mafia. So the reason that mtamb gets shot is becuase dfs is the ledge. Dfs was on the scum hunting radar, and got lynched today really easily. if they had left the vigi alive he would have gotten a shot off.

So by mtambs death last night, i confirmed that dfs was the ledge and mafia in my mind.

The second part of the trap was the fake roll block. The first roleblock claim was true on the night that mtamb should have shot yell0w but didn't (cause he wasn't vigi). The second roleblock claim was false. Yesterday i was not roleblocked. The town would have been skeptical of my roleblock but only a mafia would try to call me out as 100% false. The reason is that because the first roleblock was true they could only try to put suspicion on me but the second roleblock was false. Its none other than dfs that blatantly calls me out. No offense to dfs, but i don't think he is a strong enough mafia player to claim that it was 100% false unles he knew that it was becasue he was mafia. Even bunnies and epishade who imo play better mafia could only say that my claim was weird.

So dfs gets put on the lynch block, and everyone is like aight, i feel this. And guess who ends up being really unhappy with the lynch? Ahs and eden. Ahs, says some stuff, that while i was reading a while ago seemed very contracdictory.

At this point in the game, i think i've figured out all of the power roles on both sides of town and mafia.

I think this game is pretty much over.

so tomorrow we lynch ahs and then we lynch Eden.


Dammmnnn those plays...


I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 11 2014 21:00 GMT
#1260
The OP has been updated with links to all day and night posts. Sorry for the delay.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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