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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 18:39 GMT
#401
We're on the same page. Mostly.
People who haven't talked need to talk some more.
I especially want Eden's reads. He's talking a lot less than the last game. I want to know what he's thinking.
Imaginary
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
April 29 2014 18:40 GMT
#402
But alright guys, I'll be back in a few hours. Typing that used up more of my time than I thought.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 18:51 GMT
#403
Okay, to expand about Eden of what I thought was weird, first of all he said bunnies had a chip on her shoulder and when asked what he was talking about, he just said intuition and to not worry about it, it felt really random to me, as did the post where he says bunnies was his strongest town read not involving his role PM. I have no idea why he would feel the need to say that. And also I feel like he didn't take a side in me being suspicious or not until others said they didn't find me suspicious, just BWing the popular opinion.

And then when bunnies unvoted me, he was very fast to randomly vote against someone else and then changed his vote almost instantly.And the last thing I read before going to sleep was that he said what bunnies did wasn't scummy at all and people who thought that were fools or worse. Again, no idea why he would say that.

So I don't really understand him and I don't know what to take of all that, I just thought his behavior was really... weird, so I found him suspicious. But looking at it right now, it doesn't necessarily strike me as being mafia plays, so I just don't know.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:10 GMT
#404
Seriously, where did everyone go?
I'm active for the next hour and half, let's talk.
Imaginary
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
April 29 2014 19:11 GMT
#405
On April 30 2014 03:37 dravernor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 03:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Anyone still active? Anyone willing to give reads?
I want to know what others think.

I'm rereading the ENTIRE thread because I have been half asleep reading/at work reading all day. So will add some real input once I am done with that, because I think I might have misread some posts.


Actually you know what, I am too tired to post my thoughts right now. I'll end up confusing myself even more. Goodnight folks
<3
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:24 GMT
#406
...
Imaginary
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 19:25 GMT
#407
@Epishade

Just wanted to say that I agree about everything you said on Sweetfrost, and I also wanted to add that I feel like he didn't even read the entire thread when he says something like:

On April 29 2014 23:21 Sweetfrost wrote:
I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks.


When I really don't think I made any sarcastic or joking remarks since I became a suspect, I think he just went with what tamburini said to say I'm the prime suspect without actually reading what I said.


Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 29 2014 19:30 GMT
#408
On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 12:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response?


Wow... Just wow...


Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake.

##VOTE: Yell0w


I was reading that too, tamburini, however, as of now, yellow seems t be much off of the table.
It could also be a rookie town mistake, wanting to know how it made him look scummy instead of townie.


Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened.

1 Sarcasm
2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny.

These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far.

If you're jumping on board now, surely you have some questions of your own to ask him? Especially now that bunnies has cleared him, but you still think otherwise.

Personally, I think "jokingly" claiming Mafia and sarcasm are awful town traits that we could do without. Worthy of a policy lynch? Probably not necessary with the amount of discussion being generated on this first day.

But mtamburini, I gave you the pass because I didn't think Mafia would throw themselves into the spotlight immediately. Where's this leadership you promised us?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 29 2014 19:32 GMT
#409
On April 30 2014 04:25 Yell0w wrote:
Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody.

I'm going to agree with this, wanting to make a conscious effort to appear town is also indicative of a new town player who lacks confidence. So far, I've been struggling because I want to make posts to avoid getting fos'd as an inactive, but at the same time I don't want to be rehashing existing ideas.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:32 GMT
#410
ahs, (can I call you that?) you haven't been active in a while.
What are your reads, what are you thinking?
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:32 GMT
#411
On April 30 2014 04:25 Yell0w wrote:
Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody.

This. I can confirm from prior experience that if you're town, act like town.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:33 GMT
#412
Woah, that timing.
Imaginary
Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden213 Posts
April 29 2014 19:35 GMT
#413
What remarks were joking and/or sarcastic since I became a suspect?

Well as stated before your "You're right I'm Mafia" and you asking for advice how to act more as a townie is the prime reason I suspect you. Do keep in mind that I'm suspecting you, not accusing you. It's still day 1 and I'm still not sure about anything.

As I stated they two people I suspect as Scum is you and Bunny. I'm haven't decided where to cast my vote yet.

Before practice, we ate Kimchi soup made my MMA. His cooking has made me so depressed that I think we may lose GSTL." -Miya
Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden213 Posts
April 29 2014 19:36 GMT
#414
"What remark were joking and/or sarcastic since I became a suspect was meant to be quoted from Yellow.
Before practice, we ate Kimchi soup made my MMA. His cooking has made me so depressed that I think we may lose GSTL." -Miya
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:39 GMT
#415
I don't like the fact that yellow is under suspicion. I don't think he's mafia. Joking and sarcasm is perfectly fine in the early stages of the game. That post was from the early stages of the game. I don't think this warrants a case against yellow. The only fault I see so far is that he should be contributing a bit more. Which can also be said for a lot of others.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 19:40 GMT
#416
Other than your yellow read, what are your reads, @sweetfrost?
Imaginary
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
April 29 2014 19:42 GMT
#417
On April 30 2014 04:35 Sweetfrost wrote:
What remarks were joking and/or sarcastic since I became a suspect?

Well as stated before your "You're right I'm Mafia" and you asking for advice how to act more as a townie is the prime reason I suspect you. Do keep in mind that I'm suspecting you, not accusing you. It's still day 1 and I'm still not sure about anything.

As I stated they two people I suspect as Scum is you and Bunny. I'm haven't decided where to cast my vote yet.



That was before I became a suspect, that's the post I became a suspect for, so when you're saying: "I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks."

You're just straight up not making any sense since I didn't use sarcasm or made jokes since that and you just seem to retake exactly what tamburini said, which is extremely suspicious. And that was just one remark, you said remarkS.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 29 2014 19:44 GMT
#418
On April 30 2014 02:27 Amiko wrote:
@ashwtini:
We don't know how many mafia there are. In 13 player games, my guess would be 3 mafia, maybe also a serial killer. This is just based on knowing a popular 13-player setups is C9++ (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B#Setup_Determination) typically has 3 mafia.
There's no certainty, though, since our setup is different (there's no medic/doctor, for instance). 2 mafia seems too few, though, so I would say 3>4>2. We can make some better guesses after n1 - based on the number of kills it can indicate if there's a vigilante or serial killer.

You haven't talked much in thread yet, so here's a few questions:
- Any thoughts on sweetfrost at this point in the game?
- What is your current position on yell0w? Also, do you feel joking is indicative of being scum? Why?

Sorry I didn't catch this post.

My thoughts on sweetfrost are completely on the fence. They've pretty much been gunning for yellow all game, which is justifiable in a way. I posted my position on yellow a few posts ago, but basically, I don't like the joking or sarcasm because it causes confusion and is really something town could do without.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
April 29 2014 19:52 GMT
#419
On April 29 2014 23:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, it's morning now.
After a brief read-through of the whole thread, this is what I've come up with.

I've cleared bunnies, epishade, eden, yellow.
Amiko came in, but left abruptly. He's more active in the other games. Possible scum.
Tambo scum read, but stronger than amiko.
Meat possibly town, he didn't talk much, but I think I'll chalk that up to first game.
Rit & drav haven't talked enough for me to get a read on them.
Dfs seems maf because of a little thing - he calls everybody scum until cleared, which is contradictory since he calls some people towny beforehand.
Ash and frost haven't talked enough for me to get a read on them.

Current reads: Tambo scum, Dfs possible scum, Amiko possible scum, Bunnies, eden, epishade, yellow town in that order.



Okay, sqrt, seeing as you want to get conversation going, I'm going to address you here.

I hve read through your filter, and I see you haven't contributed much the first pages. Then you come back, say you are going to dig a bit deeper, and these are the reads you give. I want to talk about a few of them.

One: Why have you cleared yellow? You have stated you don't THINK he is mafia, and a few reasons why, but why is he absolutely cleared? You also claimed you liked what yell0w wrote in one of his posts. But that's all you said. What about Yell0w post did you specifically like?

I see you have cleared amiko for talking more, but what about Amiko's reads do you like? Also, specifically what do you think about the pointing out of the interaction between me, Eden and Epishade?

Why is tamburini a stronger scum read than Amiko?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 29 2014 19:55 GMT
#420
I am awake, catching up now.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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