I'm a cop you idiot mafia 2

On February 26 2014 01:22 Dandel Ion wrote:

YOURE ALREADY MODKILLED

On February 26 2014 03:18 Sn0_Man wrote:

U mod bro?
How mod you are?

On February 26 2014 03:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Xata, if we roll scum again let's not bus this time

On February 26 2014 04:04 Blazinghand wrote:
It's a really good setup. Also the game is small so it fills with few signups

On February 26 2014 06:04 Blazinghand wrote:


nobody's going to be modkilled, and if you are calculating it based on random lynching that's like 100% wrong anyways. don't assume nobody will claim cop n0. Don't assume there will be exactly 1 cop claim either

On February 26 2014 06:35 Blazinghand wrote:


read the first game.

On February 26 2014 06:34 Palmar wrote:
doc can't heal n1

On February 27 2014 07:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:
If VT dies N0:

- Cop should claim

elseif Doc dies N0:

- Cop should claim ONLY if he has a redcheck

elseif Cop dies N0:

- Maybe Doc should claim. Gonna give this some more thought

On February 27 2014 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:


JJD actually probably isn't scum, because scum would know that Doc wouldn't ever claim cause that wouldn't really do anything to hurt scum. Scum would be aware of what tactics blues can use on them because scum has been hanging out chatting for a day now about the setup and claims. Unless JJD is doing a really good job of playing dumb, or he actually is dumb (he isn't), he's town. He clearly hasn't thought this true which is, (sigh), a townie trait.

On February 27 2014 07:18 Blazinghand wrote:


Really what it comes down to is that even if JJD were the kind of guy to not think of this thing as scum, he also has a partner and he's been discussing with his partner for almost 24 hours. Scum NEEDS to fakeclaim in this setup. Whoever our 2 scummers are, they've been thinking about fakeclaiming for almost a day now; how to claim, when to claim, who will counterclaim, and what to claim. They know that Doctor shouldn't just claim willy-nilly. The only situations where that makes sense (ie doctor saves someone N1 and it's D2 and he wants to claim it or something) don't apply during D1 when the claims happen. JJD as scum would have thought this through. He would be trying to amass towncred by making good suggestions, and talking about "maybe the doc should claim if the cop dies n0" really makes no sense. Scum wouldn't even consider it as a threat to deal with.

It's mostly not about "too stupid to be scum" which is false (since a stupid player can of course roll scum) but that scum in this setup almost necessarily already know everything about claiming, and JJD clearly does not. He couldn't have known I'd latch onto this and call him town for it; in fact, an ineffective statement like that is more likely to draw fire than praise, so as scum he'd try to only make true statements rather than things that don't make sense.

On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.

On February 27 2014 07:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
oke jjd is actively promoting ways for town to lose tho wtf

On February 27 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:


ALSO DON'T CLAIM VT CAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR SCUM TO SHOOT THE COP/DOC.

On February 27 2014 07:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
how many levels deep of "they know that we know that they know that we know..." did you go?

On February 27 2014 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically no one should vote until town collectively decided on a lynch.

On February 27 2014 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

What do you mean? My role pm clearly sta-
oh shit.

On February 27 2014 07:54 Blazinghand wrote:

That wouldn't apply pressure appropriately. We should just be aware that putting someone at Hammer-2 is the same as hammering them basically if they are town and all the voters are scum.

On February 27 2014 07:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

yeah, we should. Something like
##HazingBland Xatalos
would be neat. Then when someone reaches a majority of HazingBlands they should claim. Clearly you need to be hesitant with the use of HazingBlands.

On February 27 2014 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sn0 why'd you check me? I'm confirmed town for having fun.

On January 14 2014 09:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Bum is a mason with me and hopeless1

On December 17 2013 16:44 Blazinghand wrote:
if we dont' lynch xig today we'll never be rid of him

people talk about policy lynching lurkers but nobody has the brass ones to actually do it. come on guys, what are you gonna do, hope the kid gets modkilled? join me. you don't have a townread on xig. you never will.

we need to take out the trash

On February 27 2014 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:


FINE THEN

SAY HELLO TO USELESS BH

On February 27 2014 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:


"BH is being helpful, making sense and constructed" -> "BH is scum"

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._____________.

._______________________________________.

On February 27 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Because on a superficial level it looks really bad. Scum would want to pad it with something more substantial.

On February 27 2014 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't even see your level

On February 27 2014 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that its far more advantagous to just play normally rather than be scared of a townie being killed because scum know who the good townies are and they are gonna die anyway regardless of how we feel.

On February 27 2014 14:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:

Explain how I'm being noob please. I think I defended the doctor claim thing pretty well. In fact I'm curious how anyone can disagree w/ me on it @ this point.

On February 27 2014 16:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Xata, how does it benefit town if we dont discuss who is scum at all? You seem really twisted on that issue.

BH would advocate mass claims all the way imo as scum because he is the only person that played this setup before and it doesnt feel like he is taking advantage of his knowledge to propose something scum favored.

On February 27 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
well i think xata flip flopping it for so long is scummy.

On February 27 2014 16:59 Oatsmaster wrote:

Im saying that we wouldnt know that its A or B but he would because he played this setup before.

On February 27 2014 17:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
why are you so resistant to the idea that BH is town? Is there something scummy you see?

On February 27 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:

yes good artanis town. Nice. I did it intentionally to see who would pick up on it.

On February 28 2014 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Oke u guys didn't even solve the game wtf

On February 28 2014 01:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So what's he consenses? Should we post who we suspect/who we want the cop to check?

Yeah I get that scum killing the cops target would suck but @ least we'd be getting rid of a townie that people are suspecting.

On February 28 2014 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:

to find out who is paying attention and who doesnt give a shit. You clearly pay less attention than Artanis.

On February 28 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
its a 6-way tie for first atm

On February 28 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would love it if scum kills a scummy townie. Much better than scum killing a townie that is good.
Why are you guys so fixated on night actions.

On February 28 2014 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

So the reason is that instead of playing the game, you pussy about doing nothing? that helps town. a lot.

On February 28 2014 02:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

We concluded that sharing scumreads is probably a good idea. Are you saying you observed what I did but purposefully didn't share it?

On February 28 2014 03:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Sn0_Man confirmed for cop.
He's the fun police.

On February 27 2014 16:33 Sylencia wrote:
Actually, tbh I don't think discussing scumreads influences much at all - scum probably aren't even targeting the most townie member tonight if they can get an inkling of who is a blue role.

So really, advocating discussing scum reads or not doesn't matter, but saying not to discuss (which in theory makes it harder for scum to choose an NK target) makes you look townier?

I think I confused myself writing this.

On February 27 2014 07:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
oke jjd is actively promoting ways for town to lose tho wtf

On February 27 2014 07:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
how many levels deep of "they know that we know that they know that we know..." did you go?

On February 28 2014 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Oke u guys didn't even solve the game wtf

On February 28 2014 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Posting reads in the thread actually gives you insight into what scum is thinking cuz they are guaranteed to take ur reads into account when making NK's.

It can't be bad. If only I had reads.

On February 28 2014 02:10 JarJarDrinks wrote:

I saw no indication that you were talking about wifom for a no counter scenario. You said "scum literally can't shoot the [cop]" The only reason that would be true is because of a counter.

not to mention the fact that you know there will be a counter since you made this post before roles were sent:

On February 28 2014 02:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I also think this post is Sn0 getting pissed off that I was getting towncred my "noob mistake"

On February 28 2014 07:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Or they may have felt he was likely to be a cop target.

On February 28 2014 07:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
There's no real reason to rush the claim/vote. Long days give town time to figure shit out.

Not that I'm having much luck figuring anything out myself but w/e. I have faith or something.

On February 28 2014 04:14 Xatalos wrote:
I also noticed something interesting, but I won't be saying more yet.

On February 28 2014 04:16 Xatalos wrote:
It would pretty much be strictly not beneficial...

On February 27 2014 08:31 Xatalos wrote:
It works both ways. Mafia can narrow down their targets, Cop can narrow down his targets. It's hard to say which one is more important.

Anyways, I suggest not checking me or Artanis. I'm pretty sure we're both town. I'm even fairly sure about myself.

On February 28 2014 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm kinda hoping they'll both come out and claim. Would make things interesting.

On February 28 2014 15:15 Sylencia wrote:
At the moment, since the last members are:
Artanis, Oats and JJD

I think JJD is prob the last scum when looking at he association with Xatalos.

His logic after Xatalos claimed seemed really premediatated. Xatalos fake claims, JJD "baits" a response, claims the response is a fake claim. Thing is, it feels too obvious :\\\\\\\\\

On February 28 2014 10:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I lied cause I wanted there to be a counter. I figured scum might not counter if everyone was all in on Xat being town.

Xat is 100% the cop because if he was scum he'd have no way to know Sn0 wouldn't be the actual cop which would immediately out Xat as the fake (cause he gave him a green check).

That logic make sense to everyone?

On February 28 2014 17:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
where's your vote Xata?

On February 28 2014 18:16 Oatsmaster wrote:

What do you mean by this?
Who are the '3' townies?

On February 28 2014 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
it literally benefits scum the longer the game goes.

On March 01 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:

except one cop check is real and one is fake and you have no idea which one is which.

On March 01 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:

By weak or outright anti-town you mean what arguments exactly?

On March 01 2014 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

because my 1 vote + 2 scum votes = not hammer.

On March 01 2014 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:

No-lynching now makes no difference and it loses a possible nolynch where its more beneficial later.

You claiming early in the day is indicative of a mindset that wants to claim, not townie..

On March 01 2014 02:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
tell me Xata, if we had lynched scum today, would the info gathered be the same as the info that we will get after tmr's lynch?
How does it differ if it does differ?

On March 01 2014 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
ah yes, another reason why Syl is town. Why would he fakeclaim and confirm a townie straight-up without a flip?

On March 01 2014 02:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not talking is really hard.

On March 01 2014 02:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
he really suspected nobody

On February 27 2014 14:56 Sylencia wrote:


Not pessimistic, just realistic.

Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0.

At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning.

On February 28 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
OR YOU ARE SACUM!!! ! !
nah ok yeah scum wouldn't be this bad ;P
Now to convince the townies.

On March 01 2014 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote:

I'd like to point out that Syl is advocating a no-lynch here yet didn't vote no-lynch when the day actually rolled around.

On February 28 2014 14:04 Sylencia wrote:
:| Don't worry about me, I'm too naive about scum fake checks.

##Vote Xatalos

On February 28 2014 23:42 Sylencia wrote:
Proper readup tomorrow - karaoke has me drained.

However, I noticed one post that stuck out from Xat for me:



It's a valiant attempt to gain town cred by trying to martyr, but if you think about it from his perspective it doesn't really show much towniness does it?

If he was the town cop, if he died, we'd gain +1 scum in me, but then town would have 66% chance to lose if the NK is the doc/non-protected guy. Doesn't really sound like a good tradeoff to me.

However, he's been pushing for a no lynch because it's apparently better to have us completely confused over the cop checks even more on day 2 if there are differing results. Basically he offers the self-sacrifice yet pushes no lynch.

That's scum yo.

On March 01 2014 13:19 Sylencia wrote:
Pretty sure I've solved the game, but I can't really say much about the doctor until D2.



I'm using your stance of no lynch because you're saying "Hey, kill me because it's good" while advocating no lynch to gain town cred. Do you read?

On March 01 2014 23:28 Sylencia wrote:


IT'S NOT THE FACT YOU DID _EITHER_ IT'S THE FACT YOU DID _BOTH_. MARTYR WITHOUT INTENTION TO FOLLOW THROUGH. DO YOU GET ME.

On March 02 2014 00:16 Sylencia wrote:
Everything is clear tomorrow in any case. At least, it should be.

On March 02 2014 00:18 Oatsmaster wrote:

that towncred pretty important bro

On March 01 2014 22:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
shits dont need no reasoning

Xata pls check me.

On March 04 2014 02:46 Balla24 wrote:


The game actually takes a huge turn when cop dies n0. It actually gets really fun to me since it becomes all about actually scum hunting rather than playing the claim game.

Still sleep d1.
d2 doc claims and you reduce to 2/4 to hit mafia even with a doc counter claim its still 1/2 between doc claims or 1/3 outside of the claims. Very fun way to play the game especially when people are new to the situation.