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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 25 2014 13:25 GMT
#6
/in game seems fun, time to get back into mafia
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 03:53 GMT
#191
Hello thar :O Playing catchup~

On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


Doc doesn't need to claim D1 if he's not in any real danger of being lynched. Being IML it's not like we have to rush any decisions on who to lynch so it's pretty easy for the Doc to make a judgement call on whether or not to claim. Should we have the opportunity to mask who is the real Doc, we obviously should take it.

That said, being 4-2 after tonight probably means we are no lynching unless there's a scum slip sometime anyways.

On February 27 2014 07:54 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 27 2014 07:53 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically no one should vote until town collectively decided on a lynch.


Maybe we should pseudo-vote before executing the actual vote?

That wouldn't apply pressure appropriately. We should just be aware that putting someone at Hammer-2 is the same as hammering them basically if they are town and all the voters are scum.


There's no real pressure we can apply with voting though, Hammer-2 is 2 votes. That means we can really only have 1 person on the pressured person (assume no scum voted yet)?

On February 27 2014 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm curious though, do you think it's a good idea to share scumreads right now? I'm pretty torn.


Doesn't sharing scumreads just reduce the targets to essentially an agreed list of town should more people share their reads and then scum collates that information? Cop should prob be competent enough to figure out who to check anyways.. imo only share if it's pretty important / big.

On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?


I would agree, but I can see the next level play in not claiming and the scum about to be lynched worming their way out that way too :\

That said, I'm looking through these possible cases and it's not even that pretty:
Scum claims, real doc CCs, scum dies. 3-1 after NK.
Real doc claims, scum CCs, doc dies, 2-2 gg?

I'm feeling more like there's no chance in hell we will be able to get a good lynch off D1.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 05:22 GMT
#196
On February 27 2014 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
syl why did you just reiterate everything that people said in the thread so far.
Also its 4-2 tmr so 33% chance we lynch scum.
Ezpz.


because I was writing stuff as I was reading and I cbf deleting once I write it.

Also, that's 66% chance we lose the game -_-

With a claim it's 60% still :S

With a confirmed cop claim on an alive town that's 50%.

With a doctor too it's 33%.

Odds suck.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 05:56 GMT
#199
On February 27 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
dont be so pessimistic.
Whos most likely scum?


Not pessimistic, just realistic.

Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0.

At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 06:57 GMT
#207
On February 27 2014 15:32 Xatalos wrote:
I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now


I wish, I was afk.

On February 27 2014 14:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
keep talking. Why is sn0 contribution lackluster?


The only thought he's provided was a pretty obvious medic-cop wifom play for Night 1, in which he assumes both cop and medic are alive. Other than that, he's just been echoing the previous poster's points.

Eh, again this case isn't even really a case it's just he's the only one of the group (excluding me) whose posts didn't really make any impact.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 07:02 GMT
#208
On February 27 2014 15:57 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 15:32 Xatalos wrote:
I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now


I wish, I was afk.

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On February 27 2014 14:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
keep talking. Why is sn0 contribution lackluster?


The only thought he's provided was a pretty obvious medic-cop wifom play for Night 1, in which he assumes both cop and medic are alive. Other than that, he's just been echoing the previous poster's points.

Eh, again this case isn't even really a case it's just he's the only one of the group (excluding me) whose posts didn't really make any impact.


Oh, to clarify, that 'group' is the group that posted in the morning, so Oats is excluded.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 07:33 GMT
#213
Actually, tbh I don't think discussing scumreads influences much at all - scum probably aren't even targeting the most townie member tonight if they can get an inkling of who is a blue role.

So really, advocating discussing scum reads or not doesn't matter, but saying not to discuss (which in theory makes it harder for scum to choose an NK target) makes you look townier?

I think I confused myself writing this.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 00:15 GMT
#368
Caught up a bit.

Blazinghand as far as I can see was a shot on just a solid townie (I never saw anything that had him hint he was blue). I'm guessing they didn't find any hints on who would be Cop/Doc during the night.

That said, it was probably hard to spot seeing as I didn't hint it during the night:

I'm a Cop. Checked sn0_man who is green. He was the one I had my eye on during N0, so I needed to get confirmation on which side he was on.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 01:04 GMT
#380
On February 28 2014 09:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
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On February 28 2014 09:15 Sylencia wrote:
I'm a Cop

Interesting wording. Not "the Cop" but "a Cop".

I'm much less inclined to believe syl tbh.

Regardless, I'm ez town ez lyfe. No reason to lynch today.


Meh, my mind was probably thinking of "I'm a cop you idiot" not "I'm the cop you idiot" ;D

On February 28 2014 09:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
ez pz. Lol thanks syl for not breadcrumbing and shit.


Well my attempt at bread crumbing would prob be obvious enough to get me shot n0 so I'll take that as a compliment.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 01:32 GMT
#385
Sn0 would've been a pretty safe person to fake check because his filter doesn't look cop-like at all.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 02:55 GMT
#388
When you don't afk from the night cycle because it's too quiet, when you provide search targets to get feedback indirectly on whether it's a good check etc etc.

Sn0's filter was 99% day 1 play plans, and only his PS ever hinted at who to check - but being an afterthought it seems unlikely he cared about the night at all.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 04:37 GMT
#403
On February 28 2014 12:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On February 28 2014 11:55 Sylencia wrote:
When you don't afk from the night cycle because it's too quiet, when you provide search targets to get feedback indirectly on whether it's a good check etc etc.
Did you post during the night cycle or provide search targets to get feedback?


I openly stated I was most suspicious of Sn0, over time there was enough of an agreement (though not in response to my statement, it was just generally put out there) that he wasn't really doing much too.

On February 28 2014 12:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I mean. You just explained what a cop filter looks like and it looks nothing like yours. It looks like Xats lol.


I wasn't explaining my one - why would I need to find a cop filter when I am cop -_- I'm saying scum would be looking for a filter like sn0's where it's easy to deduce he isn't a cop so they can safely give him a check without arousing suspicion or inducing confusion from him.

On February 28 2014 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why nolynch guys wtf. What advantage does it give us? No advantage.


+1 cop check, potential save on a cop kill if the doc does their job properly, and that will give us:
- 2 checks hopefully
- 1 cop hopefully
- 1 doctor
which in theory gives us enough confirmed town to at least incriminate someone tomorrow, if not both scummers.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 04:50 GMT
#405
Obviously.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 05:00 GMT
#409
Because I'm still thinking whether or not I let him go for another day will possibly expose the 2nd scum. Going through various checks atm.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 05:04 GMT
#411
:| Don't worry about me, I'm too naive about scum fake checks.

##Vote Xatalos
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 06:15 GMT
#414
At the moment, since the last members are:
Artanis, Oats and JJD

I think JJD is prob the last scum when looking at he association with Xatalos.

His logic after Xatalos claimed seemed really premediatated. Xatalos fake claims, JJD "baits" a response, claims the response is a fake claim. Thing is, it feels too obvious :\\\\\\\\\
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 06:16 GMT
#415
Premeditated*
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 28 2014 14:42 GMT
#477
Proper readup tomorrow - karaoke has me drained.

However, I noticed one post that stuck out from Xat for me:

On February 28 2014 19:35 Xatalos wrote:
Actually one of the best scenarios would be if I flipped. In that case you and Sylencia would be pretty much confirmed scum.


It's a valiant attempt to gain town cred by trying to martyr, but if you think about it from his perspective it doesn't really show much towniness does it?

If he was the town cop, if he died, we'd gain +1 scum in me, but then town would have 66% chance to lose if the NK is the doc/non-protected guy. Doesn't really sound like a good tradeoff to me.

However, he's been pushing for a no lynch because it's apparently better to have us completely confused over the cop checks even more on day 2 if there are differing results. Basically he offers the self-sacrifice yet pushes no lynch.

That's scum yo.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 04:19 GMT
#620
Pretty sure I've solved the game, but I can't really say much about the doctor until D2.

On March 01 2014 03:55 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 23:42 Sylencia wrote:
Proper readup tomorrow - karaoke has me drained.

However, I noticed one post that stuck out from Xat for me:

On February 28 2014 19:35 Xatalos wrote:
Actually one of the best scenarios would be if I flipped. In that case you and Sylencia would be pretty much confirmed scum.


It's a valiant attempt to gain town cred by trying to martyr, but if you think about it from his perspective it doesn't really show much towniness does it?

If he was the town cop, if he died, we'd gain +1 scum in me, but then town would have 66% chance to lose if the NK is the doc/non-protected guy. Doesn't really sound like a good tradeoff to me.

However, he's been pushing for a no lynch because it's apparently better to have us completely confused over the cop checks even more on day 2 if there are differing results. Basically he offers the self-sacrifice yet pushes no lynch.

That's scum yo.


Lolz. How does Sylencia go from thinking that it's beneficial for town to no-lynch to soon use my stance of no-lynching as proof of me being scum? This is such a radical and complete change in his views that it can't be real.


I'm using your stance of no lynch because you're saying "Hey, kill me because it's good" while advocating no lynch to gain town cred. Do you read?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 14:28 GMT
#649
On March 01 2014 17:45 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 13:19 Sylencia wrote:
Pretty sure I've solved the game, but I can't really say much about the doctor until D2.

On March 01 2014 03:55 Xatalos wrote:
On February 28 2014 23:42 Sylencia wrote:
Proper readup tomorrow - karaoke has me drained.

However, I noticed one post that stuck out from Xat for me:

On February 28 2014 19:35 Xatalos wrote:
Actually one of the best scenarios would be if I flipped. In that case you and Sylencia would be pretty much confirmed scum.


It's a valiant attempt to gain town cred by trying to martyr, but if you think about it from his perspective it doesn't really show much towniness does it?

If he was the town cop, if he died, we'd gain +1 scum in me, but then town would have 66% chance to lose if the NK is the doc/non-protected guy. Doesn't really sound like a good tradeoff to me.

However, he's been pushing for a no lynch because it's apparently better to have us completely confused over the cop checks even more on day 2 if there are differing results. Basically he offers the self-sacrifice yet pushes no lynch.

That's scum yo.


Lolz. How does Sylencia go from thinking that it's beneficial for town to no-lynch to soon use my stance of no-lynching as proof of me being scum? This is such a radical and complete change in his views that it can't be real.


I'm using your stance of no lynch because you're saying "Hey, kill me because it's good" while advocating no lynch to gain town cred. Do you read?


Why exactly am I scum for either supporting a no-lynch or mentioning that my death would benefit town?


IT'S NOT THE FACT YOU DID _EITHER_ IT'S THE FACT YOU DID _BOTH_. MARTYR WITHOUT INTENTION TO FOLLOW THROUGH. DO YOU GET ME.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 14:38 GMT
#651
The connection is that you offered both because you are trying to gain maximum town cred by combining both statements into a statement which looks super town but in fact just protects your own ass while you "offer" your own head.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 14:39 GMT
#652
Like, at this point I'm literally saying the same thing by breaking it down further and further, how much more do I need to do before you understand?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 14:51 GMT
#654
If we played the game using Occam's Razor, scum would win every time lol
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 15:16 GMT
#658
Everything is clear tomorrow in any case. At least, it should be.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 15:18 GMT
#661
Lol, my definition of Occam's Razor was slightly off (simplest answer = true as opposed to answer with least assumptions is most likely true)
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 16:12 GMT
#667
On March 02 2014 00:26 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 00:16 Sylencia wrote:
Everything is clear tomorrow in any case. At least, it should be.


And yet you claimed that no-lynching is bad?


Nah, it's only something I realised when I woke up this morning. It still ends up with the fake-cop getting lynched tomorrow, so it's still the same.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 16:37 GMT
#673
Wow guys, I must've read my PM wrong, I'm just a vanilla townie ;(
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 17:10 GMT
#679
##Vote Sn0_Man

I think he is scummy.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 17:27 GMT
#682
why am i even suspicious I don't get it

S A D B O Y S
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 01 2014 17:30 GMT
#684
cannot be bothered i am much too tired.

anyways i will scum hunt when i wake up tomorrow, no one quick hammer it is mylo and i am town
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
March 03 2014 23:24 GMT
#876
It's good to see that my blue reads were spot on :D
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