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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#443
I decided to claim today in any case unless my check or the Doc was killed. Even one green check helps a ton when it's only 6 players left, and I could just be healed easily.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:21 GMT
#444
On February 28 2014 18:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 18:11 Xatalos wrote:
But I'll have to say that surviving and pretty much clearing 3 townies by D1 isn't a bad achievement. Then it's just a process of elimination that the rest are scum.

What do you mean by this?
Who are the '3' townies?


Sn0_Man (100%) - also previously the most likely mislynch
Artanis (99.99%)
JJD (90%)

The percentages are all scientifically calculated.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:31 GMT
#446
I'll probably vote for no-lynch soonish, but there's no rush.

1) The discussion was getting sidetracked when everyone just attacked Sn0_Man (who I knew was innocent)
2) I was going to sleep and wanted to force a counterclaim in order to confirm the scumteam
3) Why not? It just helps town overall
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:40 GMT
#448
.....What's the point in lynching now? Naturally I'd prefer to lynch Sylencia, but others can't be 100% that I'm telling the truth, so it's just the optimal play to no-lynch.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:43 GMT
#449
It's also kind of funny how Sylencia claimed Cop, yet that's the only thing he's done, while you do all the dirty work for him :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:53 GMT
#451
Sigh. I don't even know why I'm explaining this, but it's just overall beneficial for town to prolong the game. More information, better results. We can't mislynch so no need to risk anything. Sylencia is confirmed scum for ME but not for others. It's just optimal to no-lynch in this situation.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 09:59 GMT
#454
In that case the scumteam would be me+Artanis+JJD+Sn0_Man.

Or maybe it's just Sylencia+Oats.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:00 GMT
#455
On February 28 2014 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
it literally benefits scum the longer the game goes.


ROFL
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:01 GMT
#456
I don't think you can possibly believe what you're saying recently.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:06 GMT
#458
1) A real cop check
2) A fake cop check
3) A town flip

Maybe not all of those, but at least 2 of them. Each one of them is helpful overall.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:08 GMT
#459
Oh, and possibly a Doctor save. That would clear one townie as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:18 GMT
#460
Also, if we HAD to lynch today, then almost certainly Sylencia would be lynched. If I was pushing scum agenda, I would definitely push for lynching Sylencia right away (like you are pushing me). It's risky to no-lynch as scum since there's even less space to hide tomorrow.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:26 GMT
#464
Town doesn't gather information to reinforce their existing beliefs, they gather information to find the truth. If JJD or Artanis dies, then I can be certain that that player wasn't scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:35 GMT
#465
Actually one of the best scenarios would be if I flipped. In that case you and Sylencia would be pretty much confirmed scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:42 GMT
#468
Confirmed for me != confirmed for everyone
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 10:47 GMT
#470
Everyone already is pretty convinced of you + Sylencia. What we want is confirmation.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 15:31 GMT
#480
##Vote No-Lynch

Artanis may decide when to end the day. I'm pretty much ready already.

JJD, I very much doubt that Sylencia would bus Oats. It would be somewhat possible if it was the other way around, but frankly, I don't see how Sylencia could carry the scumteam to victory. I don't really see how Oats could either, but at least it's in the realms of possibility.

I'm almost certainly going to check Oats, and I think Sylencia should do the same. It seems like we gain the most information if we both choose the same target (and specifically Oats).

Doctor should probably heal Sn0_Man. If Sn0_Man is the Doctor, he should probably heal Artanis or JJD. There's also a small chance that I might get hit, but since my death would pretty much nail the scumteam, I doubt it. IF I was NK'd, healing me would also pretty much nail the scumteam, since then both me and the Doctor would be confirmed. But it's a lot less likely than scum hitting someone else, so it's probably not the best choice after all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 15:36 GMT
#481
tl;dr: It's going to be a wild night of Doctor vs Mafia WIFOM Wars
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 15:39 GMT
#483
Oats, you remind me a lot of myself in my previous game as Mafia where I relentlessly tried to stop town from mass claiming blue roles. Nobody believed me, but I continued to try, since a mass claim would pretty much end the game (the setup was quite OP too). You're doing exactly the same thing here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 15:42 GMT
#484
Doctor should probably randomize his heal target by giving each player a chance of getting hit (something like 50% for Sn0_Man for example) and then going to http://www.random.org
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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