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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:29 GMT
#205
On February 27 2014 14:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
so BH is good townie, xata and artanis slightly less so and I dont really think JarJar is town just for being noob.

Explain how I'm being noob please. I think I defended the doctor claim thing pretty well. In fact I'm curious how anyone can disagree w/ me on it @ this point.


I think he meant that it wasn't enough of a reason to mark you as town for being noob initially. I guess you do have a point with your speculation, but I also want to see more from you outside of that Doctor thing. Do you have any reads yet? Or maybe it's better not to share freely yet. But do you have opinions on other topics?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:32 GMT
#206
I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:16 GMT
#210
On February 27 2014 16:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Xata, how does it benefit town if we dont discuss who is scum at all? You seem really twisted on that issue.

BH would advocate mass claims all the way imo as scum because he is the only person that played this setup before and it doesnt feel like he is taking advantage of his knowledge to propose something scum favored.


It just seems like scum would benefit more from narrowing down their kill targets than town from narrowing down Cop targets right now. We can't even really pressure (without voting power) yet.

But on the other hand, if we just sit and wait for deadline, scum can also benefit from the silence.

Why would scum openly advocate something scum-favored? I don't really get your point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:31 GMT
#212
I'm just saying that it's unlikely for an experienced scum player to advocate something that A) is unlikely to succeed B) makes himself look more suspicious.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:41 GMT
#214
Hm, I dunno. I tried to bluehunt a lot in Titanic (as scum) and it was all in vain. It's not so easy to find blues unless they make obvious breadcrumbs or something like that. Although I guess there are some ways to figure it out, especially with this few players.

Another reason to be less open for now would be to damage scum's bluehunting efforts, I guess?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:45 GMT
#215
But then again, it's pretty painful to talk about anything if scumhunting is out of the question. This is why I don't really like night starts that much.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 08:15 GMT
#219
On February 27 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
well i think xata flip flopping it for so long is scummy.



Haha... Well, suit yourself.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 08:18 GMT
#220
On February 27 2014 16:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 16:31 Xatalos wrote:
I'm just saying that it's unlikely for an experienced scum player to advocate something that A) is unlikely to succeed B) makes himself look more suspicious.

Im saying that we wouldnt know that its A or B but he would because he played this setup before.


It would be pretty stupid for all the blue roles to claim in any setup (unless like 40-50% of the roles were blue roles). I just don't get why he's super-town for NOT doing something scummy that clearly would be scummy and wouldn't almost certainly achieve anything.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 09:31 GMT
#222
On February 27 2014 17:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 17:18 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 16:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 27 2014 16:31 Xatalos wrote:
I'm just saying that it's unlikely for an experienced scum player to advocate something that A) is unlikely to succeed B) makes himself look more suspicious.

Im saying that we wouldnt know that its A or B but he would because he played this setup before.


It would be pretty stupid for all the blue roles to claim in any setup (unless like 40-50% of the roles were blue roles). I just don't get why he's super-town for NOT doing something scummy that clearly would be scummy and wouldn't almost certainly achieve anything.
why are you so resistant to the idea that BH is town? Is there something scummy you see?


It's more along the lines of "why is Oats so convinced of BH being town for no real reason"?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 12:31 GMT
#223
Sn0_Man, you back yet?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 13:21 GMT
#224
It's a sad and quiet night in Townsville.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#230
On February 27 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 23:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oats also keeps going on the offensive whenever he's attacked for something and twists whatever he's attacking. Xatalos asking Oats why his scumread is town, rescinds the request, and despite Oats saying beforehand that it's good to share scumreads he goes and says sharing scumreads is good without sharing why he thinks BH is supertown.

yes good artanis town. Nice. I did it intentionally to see who would pick up on it.



How is noticing your lack of logic in any way alignment indicative? And what could you possibly achieve by "baiting" town by playing irrationally?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:16 GMT
#231
On February 28 2014 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Oke u guys didn't even solve the game wtf


You could try to do something as well though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:17 GMT
#232
EBWOP: supposedly baiting town...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:19 GMT
#236
On February 28 2014 01:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So what's he consenses? Should we post who we suspect/who we want the cop to check?

Yeah I get that scum killing the cops target would suck but @ least we'd be getting rid of a townie that people are suspecting.


Looking from scum's perspective, it's probably slightly more beneficial for them if we claim all our reads now. It might be a good idea to post your thoughts right before deadline though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:22 GMT
#238
On February 28 2014 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oats also keeps going on the offensive whenever he's attacked for something and twists whatever he's attacking. Xatalos asking Oats why his scumread is town, rescinds the request, and despite Oats saying beforehand that it's good to share scumreads he goes and says sharing scumreads is good without sharing why he thinks BH is supertown.

yes good artanis town. Nice. I did it intentionally to see who would pick up on it.



How is noticing your lack of logic in any way alignment indicative? And what could you possibly achieve by "baiting" town by playing irrationally?

to find out who is paying attention and who doesnt give a shit. You clearly pay less attention than Artanis.


Or it could be that I'm trying not to share all my reads and observations yet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:24 GMT
#240
On February 28 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
its a 6-way tie for first atm


LOL
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:25 GMT
#241
On February 28 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would love it if scum kills a scummy townie. Much better than scum killing a townie that is good.
Why are you guys so fixated on night actions.


This setup is kind of based around night actions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:25 GMT
#242
Or rather, speculation about them.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:28 GMT
#244
Even if you think it's more beneficial to share reads right now, just as NK decisions are being made, it's blatantly false to say that there's "literally no reason" not to.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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