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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:26 GMT
#162
Yeah, also the only one that can act tonight is the cop. Thinking of if working down to a list of 2-3 players to check into is positive. It might be given that scum probably isn't stupid and won't shoot the scummiest looking players anyway. Gonna wait for other players to input on that before I comment on the BH thing though. No need to rush, we still have time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:32 GMT
#165
BH
INPUT ON SHARING SCUMREADS
GO
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:43 GMT
#172
On February 27 2014 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH
INPUT ON SHARING SCUMREADS
GO


It's fine, just don't go naming townreads unless they're people you're okay with them dying

On reflection I feel the same way. Good way to get reads out before you die too, given there's a 20% chance for all of us dying.
What do you make of Xatalos? I'm actually a bit worried with how easily he posted the list giving townreads. Could get other people to comment/address them which would give scum a better picture of whom to shoot (if they're not bluesniping) or try to lynch. He pretty much had to townread me or I'd know he's scum from our previous game. The reasoning he gave for calling you scum was something that makes me doubt it though. Doesn't seem like the kind of justification scum would use.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:44 GMT
#173
Basically flipflopping on Xata like a champ.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:51 GMT
#175
I'm sorry
Perhaps later you may win over my companionship.
Also turns out I'm really bad at following my own policy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:53 GMT
#177
On February 27 2014 08:51 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, why wouldn't scum use an argument like that on BH?

Because on a superficial level it looks really bad. Scum would want to pad it with something more substantial.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 26 2014 23:58 GMT
#179
BH did you think of all the stuff you posted before you received your alignment?
Presuming you're not going to claim scum would you have done anything differently if you were scum?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 00:06 GMT
#181
On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?

Yes I disagree because the D1 lynch will be between two 'cops', so the guy we're lynching has already claimed something else. No reason for doc to claim before D2.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 00:08 GMT
#183
On February 27 2014 09:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?

Yes I disagree because the D1 lynch will be between two 'cops', so the guy we're lynching has already claimed something else. No reason for doc to claim before D2.
This entire conversation is based on if the cop is shot N0.

Oh right. In that case doc should probably claim.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 02:30 GMT
#185
On February 27 2014 11:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH did you think of all the stuff you posted before you received your alignment?
Presuming you're not going to claim scum would you have done anything differently if you were scum?


1. No, not all of it.
2. Yes

I had long snarky responses about how phenomenally terrible your questions were but you don't deserve to be educated.

I would type long snarky responses to those long snarky responses if you had written them. You made the right decision, punk.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 03:01 GMT
#187
I can't even see your level
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 03:05 GMT
#190
On February 27 2014 12:04 Blazinghand wrote:
so do you have any thoughts based on my answers, or have you too realized how vapid and irrelevant the initial questions were?

I got what I wanted out of it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 13:43 GMT
#225
On February 27 2014 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that its far more advantagous to just play normally rather than be scared of a townie being killed because scum know who the good townies are and they are gonna die anyway regardless of how we feel.

I think this is awful. If they can't find blues they're going to shoot at the strongest townies and if no one actually shares their strongest townreads scum could have no idea who they are. I also don't like how you bring this up after we've already discussed why it's bad.

Also BH advocating "mass claims" as scum when this setup excludes the doc from saving anyone N0 is pretty pants on head.
Oats #1 scum SEA
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 14:01 GMT
#226
Oats also keeps going on the offensive whenever he's attacked for something and twists whatever he's attacking. Xatalos asking Oats why his scumread is town, rescinds the request, and despite Oats saying beforehand that it's good to share scumreads he goes and says sharing scumreads is good without sharing why he thinks BH is supertown.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 17:06 GMT
#257
On February 28 2014 01:22 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 28 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oats also keeps going on the offensive whenever he's attacked for something and twists whatever he's attacking. Xatalos asking Oats why his scumread is town, rescinds the request, and despite Oats saying beforehand that it's good to share scumreads he goes and says sharing scumreads is good without sharing why he thinks BH is supertown.

yes good artanis town. Nice. I did it intentionally to see who would pick up on it.



How is noticing your lack of logic in any way alignment indicative? And what could you possibly achieve by "baiting" town by playing irrationally?

to find out who is paying attention and who doesnt give a shit. You clearly pay less attention than Artanis.


Or it could be that I'm trying not to share all my reads and observations yet.

We concluded that sharing scumreads is probably a good idea. Are you saying you observed what I did but purposefully didn't share it?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 17:48 GMT
#267
On February 28 2014 02:40 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 02:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 28 2014 01:22 Xatalos wrote:
On February 28 2014 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 28 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oats also keeps going on the offensive whenever he's attacked for something and twists whatever he's attacking. Xatalos asking Oats why his scumread is town, rescinds the request, and despite Oats saying beforehand that it's good to share scumreads he goes and says sharing scumreads is good without sharing why he thinks BH is supertown.

yes good artanis town. Nice. I did it intentionally to see who would pick up on it.



How is noticing your lack of logic in any way alignment indicative? And what could you possibly achieve by "baiting" town by playing irrationally?

to find out who is paying attention and who doesnt give a shit. You clearly pay less attention than Artanis.


Or it could be that I'm trying not to share all my reads and observations yet.

We concluded that sharing scumreads is probably a good idea. Are you saying you observed what I did but purposefully didn't share it?


We never came to any clear conclusion about how we should handle our reads before N0 deadline. I still don't think it's the correct action to share everything unless it's RIGHT before the deadline that you want to do that.

Actually Oats did share his reason, but the reason was just plain bad. So I concluded that A) he's scum and trying to justify a read without any true reasoning B) there's more to it (a blueread or something else that he doesn't want to share yet).

I felt we reached a conclusion here.
On February 27 2014 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH
INPUT ON SHARING SCUMREADS
GO


It's fine, just don't go naming townreads unless they're people you're okay with them dying

On reflection I feel the same way. Good way to get reads out before you die too, given there's a 20% chance for all of us dying.

You didn't disagree with that conclusion at the time, so I presumed you agreed to it.

And if you felt that Oats already shared his reason, why did you ask him the same question again?
On February 27 2014 15:14 Xatalos wrote:
How come BH is the towniest of town, Oats?

Clearly you still didn't find his answer until that point satisfactory. I'm not following you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 17:58 GMT
#272
On February 28 2014 02:52 Xatalos wrote:
Oats only shared his reason after I asked him that question...? That's pretty much the point.

I think it's fine to post some reads and maybe infodump at the deadline. But I don't think it's best to share EVERYTHING freely right now.

Okay, you're right. I got the order wrong.
Carry on.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 18:00 GMT
#274
I'm just trying to intentionally look bad so I don't get shot.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 18:02 GMT
#276
Shh, I never make mistakes!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 18:05 GMT
#279
On February 28 2014 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
I hope they try to bluehunt and hit someone like Sn0_Man (no offense SnO_Man).

Apologetic tone. Scummus confirmus.
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