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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 27 2014 00:06 GMT
#181
On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?

Yes I disagree because the D1 lynch will be between two 'cops', so the guy we're lynching has already claimed something else. No reason for doc to claim before D2.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 00:08 GMT
#182
On February 27 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?

Yes I disagree because the D1 lynch will be between two 'cops', so the guy we're lynching has already claimed something else. No reason for doc to claim before D2.
This entire conversation is based on if the cop is shot N0.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 27 2014 00:08 GMT
#183
On February 27 2014 09:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?

Yes I disagree because the D1 lynch will be between two 'cops', so the guy we're lynching has already claimed something else. No reason for doc to claim before D2.
This entire conversation is based on if the cop is shot N0.

Oh right. In that case doc should probably claim.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
February 27 2014 02:26 GMT
#184
On February 27 2014 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH did you think of all the stuff you posted before you received your alignment?
Presuming you're not going to claim scum would you have done anything differently if you were scum?


1. No, not all of it.
2. Yes

I had long snarky responses about how phenomenally terrible your questions were but you don't deserve to be educated.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 27 2014 02:30 GMT
#185
On February 27 2014 11:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH did you think of all the stuff you posted before you received your alignment?
Presuming you're not going to claim scum would you have done anything differently if you were scum?


1. No, not all of it.
2. Yes

I had long snarky responses about how phenomenally terrible your questions were but you don't deserve to be educated.

I would type long snarky responses to those long snarky responses if you had written them. You made the right decision, punk.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
February 27 2014 02:56 GMT
#186
Get on my level scrublord
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 27 2014 03:01 GMT
#187
I can't even see your level
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
February 27 2014 03:04 GMT
#188
so do you have any thoughts based on my answers, or have you too realized how vapid and irrelevant the initial questions were?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
February 27 2014 03:05 GMT
#189
I am, of course, using the word "thoughts" only in the broadest, most generous sense of the term. I am nothing if not charitable towards Artanis[Xp]
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 27 2014 03:05 GMT
#190
On February 27 2014 12:04 Blazinghand wrote:
so do you have any thoughts based on my answers, or have you too realized how vapid and irrelevant the initial questions were?

I got what I wanted out of it.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 03:53 GMT
#191
Hello thar :O Playing catchup~

On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


Doc doesn't need to claim D1 if he's not in any real danger of being lynched. Being IML it's not like we have to rush any decisions on who to lynch so it's pretty easy for the Doc to make a judgement call on whether or not to claim. Should we have the opportunity to mask who is the real Doc, we obviously should take it.

That said, being 4-2 after tonight probably means we are no lynching unless there's a scum slip sometime anyways.

On February 27 2014 07:54 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 27 2014 07:53 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically no one should vote until town collectively decided on a lynch.


Maybe we should pseudo-vote before executing the actual vote?

That wouldn't apply pressure appropriately. We should just be aware that putting someone at Hammer-2 is the same as hammering them basically if they are town and all the voters are scum.


There's no real pressure we can apply with voting though, Hammer-2 is 2 votes. That means we can really only have 1 person on the pressured person (assume no scum voted yet)?

On February 27 2014 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm curious though, do you think it's a good idea to share scumreads right now? I'm pretty torn.


Doesn't sharing scumreads just reduce the targets to essentially an agreed list of town should more people share their reads and then scum collates that information? Cop should prob be competent enough to figure out who to check anyways.. imo only share if it's pretty important / big.

On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?


I would agree, but I can see the next level play in not claiming and the scum about to be lynched worming their way out that way too :\

That said, I'm looking through these possible cases and it's not even that pretty:
Scum claims, real doc CCs, scum dies. 3-1 after NK.
Real doc claims, scum CCs, doc dies, 2-2 gg?

I'm feeling more like there's no chance in hell we will be able to get a good lynch off D1.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:01 GMT
#192
syl why did you just reiterate everything that people said in the thread so far.
Also its 4-2 tmr so 33% chance we lynch scum.
Ezpz.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:05 GMT
#193
I think that its far more advantagous to just play normally rather than be scared of a townie being killed because scum know who the good townies are and they are gonna die anyway regardless of how we feel.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:08 GMT
#194
so BH is good townie, xata and artanis slightly less so and I dont really think JarJar is town just for being noob.
No gg, No skill.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 05:19 GMT
#195
On February 27 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
so BH is good townie, xata and artanis slightly less so and I dont really think JarJar is town just for being noob.

Explain how I'm being noob please. I think I defended the doctor claim thing pretty well. In fact I'm curious how anyone can disagree w/ me on it @ this point.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 05:22 GMT
#196
On February 27 2014 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
syl why did you just reiterate everything that people said in the thread so far.
Also its 4-2 tmr so 33% chance we lynch scum.
Ezpz.


because I was writing stuff as I was reading and I cbf deleting once I write it.

Also, that's 66% chance we lose the game -_-

With a claim it's 60% still :S

With a confirmed cop claim on an alive town that's 50%.

With a doctor too it's 33%.

Odds suck.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:26 GMT
#197
On February 27 2014 14:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
so BH is good townie, xata and artanis slightly less so and I dont really think JarJar is town just for being noob.

Explain how I'm being noob please. I think I defended the doctor claim thing pretty well. In fact I'm curious how anyone can disagree w/ me on it @ this point.

>>??? thats not the point im making.
You want me to call you scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:27 GMT
#198
dont be so pessimistic.
Whos most likely scum?
No gg, No skill.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 05:56 GMT
#199
On February 27 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
dont be so pessimistic.
Whos most likely scum?


Not pessimistic, just realistic.

Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0.

At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:59 GMT
#200
keep talking. Why is sn0 contribution lackluster?
No gg, No skill.
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