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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:14 GMT
#201
How come BH is the towniest of town, Oats?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:15 GMT
#202
Although maybe it's better not to talk about it at the moment... Sigh. N0 start is pretty slow paced.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:16 GMT
#203
On February 27 2014 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't even see your level
[image loading]


I laughed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:26 GMT
#204
On February 27 2014 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that its far more advantagous to just play normally rather than be scared of a townie being killed because scum know who the good townies are and they are gonna die anyway regardless of how we feel.


I almost agree... but there's the fact that we can't really afford even one mislynch, so a bit more caution than usual is needed. We might have no choice if Cop/Doc gets NK'd, but if we have a choice, I'd rather prolong the game for the sake of having more time to scumhunt + more info from Cop hopefully.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:29 GMT
#205
On February 27 2014 14:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
so BH is good townie, xata and artanis slightly less so and I dont really think JarJar is town just for being noob.

Explain how I'm being noob please. I think I defended the doctor claim thing pretty well. In fact I'm curious how anyone can disagree w/ me on it @ this point.


I think he meant that it wasn't enough of a reason to mark you as town for being noob initially. I guess you do have a point with your speculation, but I also want to see more from you outside of that Doctor thing. Do you have any reads yet? Or maybe it's better not to share freely yet. But do you have opinions on other topics?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 06:32 GMT
#206
I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 06:57 GMT
#207
On February 27 2014 15:32 Xatalos wrote:
I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now


I wish, I was afk.

On February 27 2014 14:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
keep talking. Why is sn0 contribution lackluster?


The only thought he's provided was a pretty obvious medic-cop wifom play for Night 1, in which he assumes both cop and medic are alive. Other than that, he's just been echoing the previous poster's points.

Eh, again this case isn't even really a case it's just he's the only one of the group (excluding me) whose posts didn't really make any impact.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 07:02 GMT
#208
On February 27 2014 15:57 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 15:32 Xatalos wrote:
I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now


I wish, I was afk.

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
keep talking. Why is sn0 contribution lackluster?


The only thought he's provided was a pretty obvious medic-cop wifom play for Night 1, in which he assumes both cop and medic are alive. Other than that, he's just been echoing the previous poster's points.

Eh, again this case isn't even really a case it's just he's the only one of the group (excluding me) whose posts didn't really make any impact.


Oh, to clarify, that 'group' is the group that posted in the morning, so Oats is excluded.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 07:09 GMT
#209
Xata, how does it benefit town if we dont discuss who is scum at all? You seem really twisted on that issue.

BH would advocate mass claims all the way imo as scum because he is the only person that played this setup before and it doesnt feel like he is taking advantage of his knowledge to propose something scum favored.
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:16 GMT
#210
On February 27 2014 16:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Xata, how does it benefit town if we dont discuss who is scum at all? You seem really twisted on that issue.

BH would advocate mass claims all the way imo as scum because he is the only person that played this setup before and it doesnt feel like he is taking advantage of his knowledge to propose something scum favored.


It just seems like scum would benefit more from narrowing down their kill targets than town from narrowing down Cop targets right now. We can't even really pressure (without voting power) yet.

But on the other hand, if we just sit and wait for deadline, scum can also benefit from the silence.

Why would scum openly advocate something scum-favored? I don't really get your point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 07:22 GMT
#211
Why would scum openly advocate something that hurts their chances of winning?
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:31 GMT
#212
I'm just saying that it's unlikely for an experienced scum player to advocate something that A) is unlikely to succeed B) makes himself look more suspicious.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 27 2014 07:33 GMT
#213
Actually, tbh I don't think discussing scumreads influences much at all - scum probably aren't even targeting the most townie member tonight if they can get an inkling of who is a blue role.

So really, advocating discussing scum reads or not doesn't matter, but saying not to discuss (which in theory makes it harder for scum to choose an NK target) makes you look townier?

I think I confused myself writing this.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:41 GMT
#214
Hm, I dunno. I tried to bluehunt a lot in Titanic (as scum) and it was all in vain. It's not so easy to find blues unless they make obvious breadcrumbs or something like that. Although I guess there are some ways to figure it out, especially with this few players.

Another reason to be less open for now would be to damage scum's bluehunting efforts, I guess?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 07:45 GMT
#215
But then again, it's pretty painful to talk about anything if scumhunting is out of the question. This is why I don't really like night starts that much.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 07:57 GMT
#216
well i think xata flip flopping it for so long is scummy.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 07:58 GMT
#217
play the gmae normally..
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 07:59 GMT
#218
On February 27 2014 16:31 Xatalos wrote:
I'm just saying that it's unlikely for an experienced scum player to advocate something that A) is unlikely to succeed B) makes himself look more suspicious.

Im saying that we wouldnt know that its A or B but he would because he played this setup before.
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 08:15 GMT
#219
On February 27 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
well i think xata flip flopping it for so long is scummy.



Haha... Well, suit yourself.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 08:18 GMT
#220
On February 27 2014 16:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 16:31 Xatalos wrote:
I'm just saying that it's unlikely for an experienced scum player to advocate something that A) is unlikely to succeed B) makes himself look more suspicious.

Im saying that we wouldnt know that its A or B but he would because he played this setup before.


It would be pretty stupid for all the blue roles to claim in any setup (unless like 40-50% of the roles were blue roles). I just don't get why he's super-town for NOT doing something scummy that clearly would be scummy and wouldn't almost certainly achieve anything.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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