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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:25 GMT
#241
On February 28 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would love it if scum kills a scummy townie. Much better than scum killing a townie that is good.
Why are you guys so fixated on night actions.


This setup is kind of based around night actions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:25 GMT
#242
Or rather, speculation about them.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 16:26 GMT
#243
this setup is based on finding out whos scum and killing them.
There is literally no reason to hide what you think because all it does is hurt town.
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:28 GMT
#244
Even if you think it's more beneficial to share reads right now, just as NK decisions are being made, it's blatantly false to say that there's "literally no reason" not to.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 16:29 GMT
#245
On February 28 2014 01:28 Xatalos wrote:
Even if you think it's more beneficial to share reads right now, just as NK decisions are being made, it's blatantly false to say that there's "literally no reason" not to.

So the reason is that instead of playing the game, you pussy about doing nothing? that helps town. a lot.
No gg, No skill.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:41 GMT
#246
Posting reads in the thread actually gives you insight into what scum is thinking cuz they are guaranteed to take ur reads into account when making NK's.

It can't be bad. If only I had reads.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:45 GMT
#247
Where's BH?

My reliable scumtell on him is when he hasn't found scum inside a cycle.
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 16:46 GMT
#248
Ok, I think the benefits of giving reads outweighs the downsides.


This post from Sn0 is scummy to me:
On February 27 2014 07:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
If I was the medic, and the doc claimed (obviously post n0), I'd probably not protect the doc since scum literally can't shoot the doc.
K, he typod here. Sentence should read as:

"If I was the medic, and the COP claimed (obviously post n0), I'd probably not protect the COP since scum literally can't shoot the COP. "

To me this sounds like a scum mindset. A townie would say "I'd probably not protect the either of the claimed COPs" The way he words it makes it seem like he knows who the real cop is gonna be.

Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:49 GMT
#249
Dear JJD,

When you get towncred for being demonstrably incorrect about the situation, that doesn't mean ur supposed to keep being blatantly wrong.

Sincerely,
Me
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 16:50 GMT
#250
On February 28 2014 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dear JJD,

When you get towncred for being demonstrably incorrect about the situation, that doesn't mean ur supposed to keep being blatantly wrong.

Sincerely,
Me
What was I demonstrably incorrect about?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:53 GMT
#251
oh hmm i actually see what u were saying.

still wrong

u were demonstrably incorrect about the claiming logic early game. Which BH was quick to point out meant that ur probably town cuz u didn't think through claims.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 16:56 GMT
#252
He isnt incorrect here though. Did you scumslip sn0
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 16:56 GMT
#253
On February 28 2014 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 01:28 Xatalos wrote:
Even if you think it's more beneficial to share reads right now, just as NK decisions are being made, it's blatantly false to say that there's "literally no reason" not to.

So the reason is that instead of playing the game, you pussy about doing nothing? that helps town. a lot.


To be fair, I've shared more of my reads so far than you have...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 17:00 GMT
#254
That's a potential scumslip. I'll have to recheck how the discussion went soon.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 17:01 GMT
#255
On February 28 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
He isnt incorrect here though. Did you scumslip sn0

did u miss the part where i said "still wrong"?

there's no mention of a counterclaim in that post cuz i was wifom'ing the no-counter-claim scenario.

in the counter claim scenario I don't think u protect either cop.
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:03 GMT
#256
On February 28 2014 01:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
u were demonstrably incorrect about the claiming logic early game. Which BH was quick to point out meant that ur probably town cuz u didn't think through claims.
We can discuss the whole "doc claims if cop dies" debate again if you want but I feel like I won that argument.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 27 2014 17:06 GMT
#257
On February 28 2014 01:22 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 28 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 27 2014 23:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oats also keeps going on the offensive whenever he's attacked for something and twists whatever he's attacking. Xatalos asking Oats why his scumread is town, rescinds the request, and despite Oats saying beforehand that it's good to share scumreads he goes and says sharing scumreads is good without sharing why he thinks BH is supertown.

yes good artanis town. Nice. I did it intentionally to see who would pick up on it.



How is noticing your lack of logic in any way alignment indicative? And what could you possibly achieve by "baiting" town by playing irrationally?

to find out who is paying attention and who doesnt give a shit. You clearly pay less attention than Artanis.


Or it could be that I'm trying not to share all my reads and observations yet.

We concluded that sharing scumreads is probably a good idea. Are you saying you observed what I did but purposefully didn't share it?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#258
On February 28 2014 02:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
He isnt incorrect here though. Did you scumslip sn0

did u miss the part where i said "still wrong"?

there's no mention of a counterclaim in that post cuz i was wifom'ing the no-counter-claim scenario.

in the counter claim scenario I don't think u protect either cop.

I saw no indication that you were talking about wifom for a no counter scenario. You said "scum literally can't shoot the [cop]" The only reason that would be true is because of a counter.

not to mention the fact that you know there will be a counter since you made this post before roles were sent:
On February 26 2014 07:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Of course there will be a counter.

Unless maf is hella lucky in which case the cop will be flipped and there's no way maf claim obviously. But by the same token even if maf hit the cop N0, the game still goes on its not like town straight up lose.

Now, if maf hit the DOCTOR N0, then shenannies start happening because town can't cop claim anymore (unless they cop-checked scum N0).

Alright this is working out. me likey.




JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:12 GMT
#259
I also think this post is Sn0 getting pissed off that I was getting towncred my "noob mistake"

On February 27 2014 07:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
oke jjd is actively promoting ways for town to lose tho wtf

Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 17:23 GMT
#260
48 hours earlier I believed there had to be a counter. I actually think the no-counter game is playable for scum atm.

And yes, you just identified the part where I said u were full of bad ideas and right around there BH chipped in with "well that makes JJD town".
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