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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:23 GMT
#161
I'm not sure myself. It could help scum to choose their NK, but it could also help Cop/Doc to choose their targets. Mafia tend to benefit from silence, but there's not *that* much to be done without the ability to vote anyways... No real pressure can be made etc... Maybe it's better not to be so open yet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:26 GMT
#162
Yeah, also the only one that can act tonight is the cop. Thinking of if working down to a list of 2-3 players to check into is positive. It might be given that scum probably isn't stupid and won't shoot the scummiest looking players anyway. Gonna wait for other players to input on that before I comment on the BH thing though. No need to rush, we still have time.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
February 26 2014 23:30 GMT
#163
On February 27 2014 08:10 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. I just somehow dislike his very tryhard and focused early play. My recent memories of him being town are him being completely useless.


FINE THEN

SAY HELLO TO USELESS BH
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:31 GMT
#164
It works both ways. Mafia can narrow down their targets, Cop can narrow down his targets. It's hard to say which one is more important.

Anyways, I suggest not checking me or Artanis. I'm pretty sure we're both town. I'm even fairly sure about myself.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:32 GMT
#165
BH
INPUT ON SHARING SCUMREADS
GO
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:32 GMT
#166
On February 27 2014 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:10 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. I just somehow dislike his very tryhard and focused early play. My recent memories of him being town are him being completely useless.


FINE THEN

SAY HELLO TO USELESS BH


Oh God no...

But there's no way you can win, is there
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
February 26 2014 23:35 GMT
#167
On February 27 2014 08:32 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:10 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. I just somehow dislike his very tryhard and focused early play. My recent memories of him being town are him being completely useless.


FINE THEN

SAY HELLO TO USELESS BH


Oh God no...

But there's no way you can win, is there


EZ WAY TO WIN = LYNCH SCUM HUE
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
February 26 2014 23:37 GMT
#168
On February 27 2014 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH
INPUT ON SHARING SCUMREADS
GO


It's fine, just don't go naming townreads unless they're people you're okay with them dying
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:38 GMT
#169
That's overblown. You're never quite like *that*. It's just that your early posts all made sense and were constructive. It feels weird to hold that against someone, but......... You know.... It feels weird.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
February 26 2014 23:40 GMT
#170
On February 27 2014 08:38 Xatalos wrote:
That's overblown. You're never quite like *that*. It's just that your early posts all made sense and were constructive. It feels weird to hold that against someone, but......... You know.... It feels weird.


"BH is being helpful, making sense and constructed" -> "BH is scum"

._.

._____________.

._______________________________________.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:42 GMT
#171
On February 27 2014 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:38 Xatalos wrote:
That's overblown. You're never quite like *that*. It's just that your early posts all made sense and were constructive. It feels weird to hold that against someone, but......... You know.... It feels weird.


"BH is being helpful, making sense and constructed" -> "BH is scum"

._.

._____________.

._______________________________________.


That's why I said you can't win, didn't I?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:43 GMT
#172
On February 27 2014 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH
INPUT ON SHARING SCUMREADS
GO


It's fine, just don't go naming townreads unless they're people you're okay with them dying

On reflection I feel the same way. Good way to get reads out before you die too, given there's a 20% chance for all of us dying.
What do you make of Xatalos? I'm actually a bit worried with how easily he posted the list giving townreads. Could get other people to comment/address them which would give scum a better picture of whom to shoot (if they're not bluesniping) or try to lynch. He pretty much had to townread me or I'd know he's scum from our previous game. The reasoning he gave for calling you scum was something that makes me doubt it though. Doesn't seem like the kind of justification scum would use.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:44 GMT
#173
Basically flipflopping on Xata like a champ.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:49 GMT
#174
I'm hurt. I thought we were brothers-in-arms no matter the alignment. Now I see you're just trying to scumhunt.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:51 GMT
#175
I'm sorry
Perhaps later you may win over my companionship.
Also turns out I'm really bad at following my own policy.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:51 GMT
#176
By the way, why wouldn't scum use an argument like that on BH?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:53 GMT
#177
On February 27 2014 08:51 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, why wouldn't scum use an argument like that on BH?

Because on a superficial level it looks really bad. Scum would want to pad it with something more substantial.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 26 2014 23:55 GMT
#178
On February 27 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:51 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, why wouldn't scum use an argument like that on BH?

Because on a superficial level it looks really bad. Scum would want to pad it with something more substantial.


Hmm, that seems like a fine reason. I also agree that it was careless to name you as a townread (although I guess it was already implied earlier on).

I also agree that you're pretty bad at following your own policy
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 26 2014 23:58 GMT
#179
BH did you think of all the stuff you posted before you received your alignment?
Presuming you're not going to claim scum would you have done anything differently if you were scum?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 00:04 GMT
#180
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?
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