On February 20 2014 14:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
suki's post about rayn's policy was really bad because it served no purpose, nobody was asking her what she thought and she just comments on it that it doesnt make Rayn scum or town. Completely useless and not what a townie thinks about at all.

Toad because of his wishywashyness on rayn and his inconsistant stance on rayn.

Basically what other people said.

I don't agree that it's useless to make comments without reaching conclusion. Sometimes you're making them in hopes further comments will arise, sometimes you're simply stating your position. I've made multiple comments this game without trying to pretend I've reached some sort of conclusion.

If toad is scum it is because of what marv pointed out.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2014 09:49 GMT

#383

I just went back through the playerlist and I realized I actually like this game. Almost everyone has posted something that I can work with.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

February 20 2014 09:50 GMT

#384

yay. Now let's brainstorm.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

February 20 2014 10:10 GMT

#385

sidesprang
Please play the game. Thx.
You will get lynched if you continue like this.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 10:18 GMT

#386

On February 20 2014 12:06 VIVAX420 wrote:
well when suki is scum, she constantly bitches about how stressful it is to be scum. Her early game back and forth with koshi makes her look very town to me.
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why vote prpl? just because of the contradiction in that post you quoted? it wasn't so much a contradiction as it was a realization that marv had a good point.

Catching up, this is basically right.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 10:20 GMT

#387

noooooooooooooo why did we have to get Oats. fuck.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 10:28 GMT

#388

Alright.

sidesprang, Koshi is right, you need to play the game, and whatever hilarious little games and plans you're coming up with just dropping a vote and leaving - I'll tell you for free, they're neither hilarious, nor clever. Play the game or die. I will quite happily simply lynch you and not think about it.

prplhz looks quite fine. Stuck up for himself. Contradiction not a contradiction. rayn looks fine. suki (it's a lady Palmar) I think looks ok, for the sheer disbelief that rayn has a scumread on her.

Toad still looks like poopypants.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 10:30 GMT

#389

Balla, why are you interested in Smurf at the moment?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2014 10:56 GMT

#390

I know I want to see another train of thought by smurf. This first one was pretty bad, but I'm not sure it was scum-bad.

I agree with most of marv's conclusions. prplhz looks very much ok to me. I'm not as certain about Suki, but I am nowhere near calling her scum. As for clarification, I think it's much more likely rayn is scum than she is.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2014 10:58 GMT

#391

On February 20 2014 18:50 Koshi wrote:
yay. Now let's brainstorm.

I'm waiting for any kind of contribution to the discussion from you. You've posted a lot and said very little.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 11:06 GMT

#392

Seriously wish you'd let Balla answer first T.T

Agree with you about Koshi - Koshi my love, you can't just hang off me/rayn's coat-tails. You should know by now I only protect you when I have good reasons to think you're town... :>

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2014 11:06 GMT

#393

On February 20 2014 18:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you doing palmar? Are you pressuring anyone with that set of posts? It seems totally useless man. Why dont you finish reading then consolidate a push against someone

Are you actually going to play this game?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2014 11:07 GMT

#394

On February 20 2014 20:06 marvellosity wrote:
Seriously wish you'd let Balla answer first T.T

Agree with you about Koshi - Koshi my love, you can't just hang off me/rayn's coat-tails. You should know by now I only protect you when I have good reasons to think you're town... :>

Do you think rayn is town?

He's definitely in my lower tier of "possibly scum" players at the moment.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 11:07 GMT

#395

yeah I think rayn is town.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2014 11:08 GMT

#396

on a scale of 1 - starsenses, how certain are you?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

February 20 2014 11:09 GMT

#397

Paraphrased what happened:
1) suki trolling a shitton (no quotes)
2) Koshi asking suki if Balla is scum.
3) suki trolling
4) Koshi claiming to have reasons to why Balla is scum
5) suki also sees reasons to why Balla is scum. Votes Balla
6) Koshi claims he did not have any reasons to why Balla is scum.
7) suki bringing Balla up again, holding back the reasons to why.
8) Koshi + Balla ask why Balla is scum.
9) suki gives reasoning.

The Quotes↓
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On February 20 2014 08:57 Koshi wrote:
suki, I think balla is scum. Agree?

On February 20 2014 08:59 Koshi wrote:

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Why are you not interested in seeing what I am seeing?

On February 20 2014 09:09 suki wrote:
##unvote
##vote Balla24

Can we be best buddies

On February 20 2014 09:12 suki wrote:

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I thought you were seeing something so I looked and I thought I saw what you saw, but now you unvoted yourself.

Did you really see something or were you just making something up?

On February 20 2014 09:14 Koshi wrote:

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Making stuff up.
I am serious because I can be.

On February 20 2014 09:17 suki wrote:
Koshi you should put your vote back on Balla.

On February 20 2014 09:19 Koshi wrote:

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I really shouldn't. I know we catch Balla ezpz if he is scum anyway. No need to pressure for no reason. Unless you want to share a reason.

I think you should.

On February 20 2014 09:22 suki wrote:
Balla is completely in policy talk mode and hasn't even tried to pressure anyone or start anything even though he is clearly here. He also is not playing light hearted like in the previous game where we bulldozed scum.

On February 20 2014 09:52 suki wrote:

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I think the reactions that are garnered from your stupid entry is a positive direction for town and that Balla's reaction to it specifically makes me think he is scum. As for you specifically, I think you can open this way as scum or town.

What do you think of this?

This is the entire conversation between suki and me. First sight I don't really have a problem with it but now that I reread it it feels like suki is holding information back from the thread. I don't see why she would do that and I do not remember her doing that at all in previous games.

Is it scum trying to milk a topic as long as possible to stay active? Because quite quickly after the reasoning she gave that Balla is scum and said she was quite serious about the accusations she went talking about rayn and his pro-town voting stuff and started defending herself against rayn his accusations.
I don't know that town that actually found scum would drop the scumread and would start talking policy stuff and would defend herself over pushing the scumread.

It feels off.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 20 2014 11:10 GMT

#398

One thing about rayn that has actually been quite consistent in his scumgames is this:

He is very good at posting a lot. Very good. Lynched him with 25 page filter on day 3 in ##. And yet he practically always is slow out the blocks. Ref: World Championship heavyweight mini - very slow out the blocks, and I was suspicious of him for it. LXIII - slow out the blocks. Vengeful (v recent) - I attacked his opening posts because they were useless and wishy washy.

Here he's racing out the blocks. Almost doesn't matter how, although I've not seen anything particularly bad.
Nothing overly conclusive but definitely puts him on the townside.