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On February 20 2014 13:52 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 13:22 Balla24 wrote:
Where did I even react to rayn's entry and why is it bad?
I find half of your initial reasoning for pressuring me somewhat silly (i'm not being playful) and the other half somewhat deserved, but I don't think you're being consistent here: At first you were saying i'm scummy for being in "policy talk mode" and i was actively lurking and not pressuring people. But here you're saying it's because of my reaction which you didn't even reference or comment on before.
Your reaction: Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:17 Balla24 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:14 suki wrote:
Puppy <3
Yes. Actually. There is no downside to having your vote on someone else, especially this early in the game. Why is Rayn abstaining from even the miniscule amount of pressure a random vote has, and why does he think that abstaining is a good idea?
(Rayn does that clear up my question for you) I see what rayn was thinking though. He thought the votes were permanent thus the people with 3 votes would be easier to lynch whereas the people with no votes would be much harder to lynch. That would actually be a cool mechanic. Once it was cleared up though it basically means nothing so the "plan" doesn't do anything. So yeah. Policy talk mode. Not pressuring. Your 'reaction' to rayn's case was just a sort of backing-up rayn by explaining his point of view from your point of view. Let's get those gears moving Balla! What do you think of prplhz's pressure on rayn? Who do you find scummy right now?
kk so basically cause I didn't open with an early pressure vote.
The back and forth between rayn and him is fine and dandy and created lots of discussion. I don't see anything bad in there, except maybe prplhz's attack on you which was cleared up pretty quickly.
I don't find anybody scummy yet, we'll see what happens when the smurf comes back. I'm interested in oats and the smurf atm. I'd like oats to respond to why he thinks you and toad look bad.
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suki's post about rayn's policy was really bad because it served no purpose, nobody was asking her what she thought and she just comments on it that it doesnt make Rayn scum or town. Completely useless and not what a townie thinks about at all.
Toad because of his wishywashyness on rayn and his inconsistant stance on rayn.
Basically what other people said.
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suki why are you not pressuring prplhz to take a stance with his vote? I thought that was what you were vouching for?
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On February 20 2014 10:40 Toadesstern wrote:
@rayn: Can't be #1 because I have no idea how someone could have come to that conclusion based on the phrasing from our lovevly host.
On February 20 2014 11:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Your explanation is possible, that's the sad thing here.
Toad how do these two comments go together?
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Current suspicions:
VIVAX420 (2): jaybrundage, suki, sidesprang
Koshi (1): CuteFluffyPuppy, marvellosity, Koshi
marvellosity (0): raynpelikoneet, VIVAX420
CuteFluffyPuppy (1): prplhz, CuteFluffyPuppy
jaybrundage (0): Koshi
raynpelikoneet (3): Balla24, raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, prplhz
Palmar (0): Toadesstern
Toadesstern (3): Palmar, VIVAX420, marvellosity
prplhz (1): suki, raynpelikoneet
Balla24 (1): suki
suki (0): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Oats, how do you feel about the notion that only scummers replace out lately.
The pressure that is on you must be enormous.
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On February 20 2014 11:00 suki wrote:Show nested quote +rayn said:
We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at. Here's how I see it. Because you're forced to vote someone, you can't unvote and remain without an opinion (well, except with this stupid plan). This is pro-town. If someone voted Koshi and said, 'I don't think Koshi is scum anymore' but kept his vote on Koshi, then pressuring that person to take a stance on someone else IS pro-town because they can't just unvote and say 'I dont know I'm thinking'. It forces accountability, and mafia hate being accountable for their actions. This outweighs scum possibly misrepresenting someone because they didn't take off their vote.
On February 20 2014 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
suki is probably mafia.
I read this exchange. I think suki is wrong and bad but I don't think this post makes him mafia.
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I'm catching up btw, will post as I run into things I find interesting.
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On February 20 2014 11:25 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:40 Koshi wrote:
Rofl. Rayn and marv are.going to be town so this will be so awesome.
Let it be known that if you attack either rayn, marv or myself in the next 6 hours you better.do it very convincingly. Cuz I will not be impressed by sloppy shizzle on my towny friends and myself.
Poor.scummers.
Koshi out 4.realzies. Koshi tell me why you are reading these two as town, and why you feel the need to express this so strongly to the thread.
Asking for reasoning on the town reads is fair, the second sentence is dumb.
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On February 20 2014 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 11:33 prplhz wrote:
I still think that raynpelikoneet's plan is completely useless and no townie has any reason to come up with or push it.
I also agree with marvellosity that it doesn't make sense that scum would hard push a silly slightly scummy plan in thread like this.
Also this is why prplhz is mafia. It's an obvious contradiction that makes no sense. ##unvote
##Vote: prplhz
I don't see the contradiction. There is no reason for any townie to do various strange things, yet they do it all the time and we even clear the for it. (it: this is so dumb he has to be town).
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On February 20 2014 11:44 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 11:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what was your reasoning for unvoting as town or as mafia? I guarantee as mafia it's most likely "because i would do that as town" as in "i try to look townie" because that's why you do things as mafia right?
So we can exclude that part. What was your reasoning for unvote as town? top kek You don't think there was ever a scum who was like "Shit, I need to get my vote off of this guy because this vote is a little silly and it's attracting attention to me. I guess I'll try to do it in a townie way." The whole "scum act like town so we can never catch them"-idea is silly. Scum can't perfectly act like town and the more we force them to act the less they look like town (ideally).
I don't agree with your logic prplhz. IF rayn is mafia he's not dumb enough to create an entire plan to simply get his vote off someone. If he is mafia the reason he did this is he thought the plan would be well-received in town and considered advantageous for town, thus giving him townie points for not really doing anything.
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Current suspicions:
VIVAX420 (1): jaybrundage, suki, sidesprang
Koshi (1): CuteFluffyPuppy, marvellosity, Koshi
marvellosity (0): raynpelikoneet, VIVAX420
CuteFluffyPuppy (1): prplhz, CuteFluffyPuppy
jaybrundage (0): Koshi
raynpelikoneet (3): Balla24, raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, prplhz
Palmar (0): Toadesstern
Toadesstern (3): Palmar, VIVAX420, marvellosity
prplhz (1): suki, raynpelikoneet
Balla24 (2): suki, sidesprang
suki (0): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Palmar, do you got any scumreads?
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What is your read on Balla?
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What are you doing palmar? Are you pressuring anyone with that set of posts? It seems totally useless man. Why dont you finish reading then consolidate a push against someone
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@rayn
prplhz contradiction is something I don't perceive as scummy btw. But I can give him a scummy point.
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On February 20 2014 18:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you doing palmar? Are you pressuring anyone with that set of posts? It seems totally useless man. Why dont you finish reading then consolidate a push against someone
I'm posting things I find interesting?
Why is everyone so annoying and rash? Could you people just chill while I develop reads etc?
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