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![[image loading]](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/chuiu/TLmafia_new.png) Default Suspicions Mini Mafia
Hosts: Sylencia and LoneMeow
Phase: Endgame
Important Posts:
+ Show Spoiler +
Player List (6/12):
Replacements:
- Holyflare
- justanothertownie
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The Rules:
Standard Rules: View them and follow them.
PMs: Not allowed.
Hydras: Not allowed.
Smurfs: Allowed, PM your actual identity when signing up. This will not be revealed to the players.
Replacements: Until the start of Day 2.
Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.
Time Cycle: 48 Hour Day - 23 Hour Night - 1 Hour Resolution
During the resolution phase, all night actions are locked in.
Game Starting Period: Day 1 Start
Voting: Plurality Lynch - highest number of votes gets lynched. You become the new lynch target when you have more votes than anyone else.
Deadline: 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is done in this thread.
Use ##Vote: Player or the vote will not be counted.
Special Rules:
This game assigns all players with a default suspicion.
- On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.
- On day 2 onwards, everyone's vote remains on the person they last voted for. Players who voted for a dead player will be assigned the last living player they voted for. If none of their votes are on a living person, a random person will be assigned.
You may not completely unvote in this game. You can always change your vote, but you must always have a vote on someone.
Possible Roles and PMs
Town
The Town Team win when there are no Scum left in the game, or nothing can stop it from happening.
Vanilla Townie
+ Show Spoiler +
Non-Self Aware Miller
+ Show Spoiler +
Jack of All Trades
+ Show Spoiler +Jack of All Trades
Up to two times per game, you can use one of your powers. Each power can be used once. Only you know your exact power options. Only one power can be used during a single night.
Powers: X, Y, Z
(X-Shot) Vigilante
+ Show Spoiler +(X-Shot) Vigilante
At night, you can select someone to shoot (up to X times per game)
(X-Shot) Doctor
+ Show Spoiler +(X-Shot) Doctor
Once per night, you can select someone to protect from 1KP (up to X times per game). You cannot protect yourself. (You cannot select the same person twice in a row.)
(X-Shot) Alignment Cop
+ Show Spoiler +(X-Shot) Alignment Cop
Once per night, you can select a player to investigate (up to X times per game). They will return either green or red depending on their alignment.
(X-Shot) Tracker
+ Show Spoiler +(X-Shot) Tracker
Once per night, you can select a player to track (up to X times per game). You will be informed who they targeted during that night or nothing if they did nothing.
(X-Shot) Watcher
+ Show Spoiler +(X-Shot) Watcher
Once per night, you can select a player to watch (up to X times per game). You will be informed who targeted them that night or no-one if no-one visted them.
(X-Shot) Roleblocker
+ Show Spoiler +(X-Shot) Roleblocker
Once per night, you can select a player to roleblock (up to X times per game). They will be informed of the roleblock regardless of role.
Scum
Scum win when they outnumber Town, or nothing can prevent it from happening. Night kills are delivered personally.
Goon
+ Show Spoiler +Goon
You can deliver the night kill.
Partners: XXXXXXXXX
QT: XXXXXXX
Godfather
+ Show Spoiler +Godfather
You return green to alignment checks. Any player tracking you will return nothing. Visiting a watched player will not return your name in the results. You can deliver the night kill.
Partners: XXXXXXXXX
QT: XXXXXXX
Roleblocker
+ Show Spoiler +Roleblocker
Once per night, you can select a player to roleblock. They will be informed of the roleblock regardless of role. You can use this power and perform the night kill.
Partners: XXXXXXXXX
QT: XXXXXXX
Framer
+ Show Spoiler +Framer
Once per night, you can select a player to frame. You can choose one of two methods of framing:
- Select a second player. The first player will be treated as if they visited the second player.
- The player will return the opposite result to alignment checks.
You can use this power and perform the night kill.
Partners: XXXXXXXXX
QT: XXXXXXX
Role FAQ
- All roles with (X-Shot) mean they may either be in have limited or unlimited uses.
- If two roleblockers roleblock each other, they will both be notified. In this case, it counts as both roleblocks succeeding, and thus tracks and watches may work.
- Roleblocks will block night kills.
- Roleblocks resolve simultaneously. Thus anyone who was targetted by a roleblock will be blocked.
- Roleblocked X-Shots and JoaT roles will have their power use refunded.
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Roleblock chains resolve from the last roleblock in the chain. For example: A->B->C->D->Medic, A will roleblock B, so B doesn't block C, so C blocks D, which means the Medic power resolves.
That shouldn't be that way. Night actions should all happen at the same time in 2 stages. First everything that is a RB happens, all RB's happen at the same time. Then everything that is not an RB happens, all at the same time. At least that's how it got explained to me, because it's the same with other nightactions as well:
If vig A shoots Vig B who shoots C, C should not be saved because both shots happen at the same time. Same with RB's. If RB A roleblocks B, who roleblocks C, C should not be saved. So basicly if A roleblocks B who roleblocks C, who roleblocks D, who roleblocks A all 4 of them should end up being roleblocked. Just saying in case this isn't on purpose for some reason.
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I agree with Toad. We have always tried to not make the timing of night actions or votes influence the game because we all play from different time zones. We like to give everyone the same abilities in game no matter where they live; iGrok and GreYMisT have a very good action resolution system which you may find worthwhile copying.
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Great, I wasn't 100% sure myself how I'd handle it, it was what seemed to work in my mind at the time. Though Prom, timing of night actions isn't an influence in the way I said it was handled.
In any case, I'll edit it to the more standard way soon.
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Hurr durr, thinking hard. Sorry, reading comprehension = minimal.
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On February 17 2014 20:50 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +Roleblock chains resolve from the last roleblock in the chain. For example: A->B->C->D->Medic, A will roleblock B, so B doesn't block C, so C blocks D, which means the Medic power resolves. That shouldn't be that way. Night actions should all happen at the same time in 2 stages. First everything that is a RB happens, all RB's happen at the same time. Then everything that is not an RB happens, all at the same time. At least that's how it got explained to me, because it's the same with other nightactions as well:
If vig A shoots Vig B who shoots C, C should not be saved because both shots happen at the same time. Same with RB's. If RB A roleblocks B, who roleblocks C, C should not be saved. So basicly if A roleblocks B who roleblocks C, who roleblocks D, who roleblocks A all 4 of them should end up being roleblocked. Just saying in case this isn't on purpose for some reason.
There is nothing wrong with resolving roleblocks (unlike other night actions) as least conflict. There are plenty of setups that work like this (c9++ is a good example). There's nothing illegitimate about it: a site like mafiascum even has it as their preferred way of dealing with resolution (Roleblocker).
And in a mini setup like this that has town roleblockers, I'd actually argue that it's better to have it as least conflict over simultaneous. It's not a very strong role as it is.
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On February 18 2014 00:01 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 20:50 Toadesstern wrote:Roleblock chains resolve from the last roleblock in the chain. For example: A->B->C->D->Medic, A will roleblock B, so B doesn't block C, so C blocks D, which means the Medic power resolves. That shouldn't be that way. Night actions should all happen at the same time in 2 stages. First everything that is a RB happens, all RB's happen at the same time. Then everything that is not an RB happens, all at the same time. At least that's how it got explained to me, because it's the same with other nightactions as well:
If vig A shoots Vig B who shoots C, C should not be saved because both shots happen at the same time. Same with RB's. If RB A roleblocks B, who roleblocks C, C should not be saved. So basicly if A roleblocks B who roleblocks C, who roleblocks D, who roleblocks A all 4 of them should end up being roleblocked. Just saying in case this isn't on purpose for some reason. There is nothing wrong with resolving roleblocks (unlike other night actions) as least conflict. There are plenty of setups that work like this (c9++ is a good example). There's nothing illegitimate about it: a site like mafiascum even has it as their preferred way of dealing with resolution ( Roleblocker). And in a mini setup like this that has town roleblockers, I'd actually argue that it's better to have it as least conflict over simultaneous. It's not a very strong role as it is.
it's a weak role but neither way of resolving actually buffs it. You could argue that not simultaneous makes it even worse, as a Town-RB is an incredibly hard role to play as. Probably one of the hardest powerroles there is to play and mafia has an information advantage over the Town-RB, so the benefits are more likely to help mafia than town simply because Mafia won't RB themselves while the mafia-RB will at least always hit into town.
So if you want a somewhat more useful Town-RB I'd actually make it simultaneous to make sure that on the rare occastions when he actually does something that isn't anti-town it'll go through. But I didn't know there's both options to resolve this. Whatever host wants is fine as long as it's clear 
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Well here's the way I see it: the only real thing that least conflict does over simultaneous in this situation is that it allows the roleblockers to stop the other roleblocker. Now since a mafia roleblocker is probably more useful than a town roleblocker, it stands to reason that stopping the mafia roleblocker should be more useful than being able to stop the town roleblocker 
btw, the op should probably mention whether or not x-shot powers get refunded if roleblocked.
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Think im going to /in on this. Shame we can't have toad as an awesome cohost.
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On February 18 2014 17:10 jaybrundage wrote:
Think im going to /in on this. Shame we can't have toad as an awesome cohost.
Do not worry for I am here to spam you with vote counts!
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FAQ updated with X-Shot/JoaT roleblock refunds (Doesn't count as a use)
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EPT
