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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:34 Hopeless1der wrote: In that case town sentiment is so wrong that I am obligated to keep myself alive as the sole voice of reason to salvage a terrible situation. You are wrong sir. As any faction, one should never roll over and die. I would of been happier if you felt obligated to not leave the thread for 24 hours. You must know why your being lynched. At this point I would just get all your thoughts out. In the unlikely case that your town. Acting like its town's fault for your lynch is a bit egotistical. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:38 suki wrote: LoneMeow, why do you think Hopeless looks better? How sure are you that Hopeless is scum since you still seem to be pressuring him? He seems to exhibit a mindset I find pro-town lately. I'm very uncertain about him right now. For example: On February 06 2014 03:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Because Oats isn't getting lynched by the looks of things. There is sufficient reasoning to lynch either of them independently of the other. This is pretty much the only acceptable answer from a town player, had he been defensive about it I'd have called him scum instantly. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:38 jaybrundage wrote: I would of been happier if you felt obligated to not leave the thread for 24 hours. You must know why your being lynched. At this point I would just get all your thoughts out. In the unlikely case that your town. Acting like its town's fault for your lynch is a bit egotistical. woah I never said its towns fault for lynching me. I'm not going to cite the many instances where I self-depreciate my own play by calling it scummy because I do it in damn near every game. However, Balla is telling me I should kill myself to save town the grief of reading me later. Do you agree with him? I should knowingly allow a guaranteed mislynch to occur? | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
Do you disagree that he's beating around the bush in those quotes? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:42 Hopeless1der wrote: woah I never said its towns fault for lynching me. I'm not going to cite the many instances where I self-depreciate my own play by calling it scummy because I do it in damn near every game. However, Balla is telling me I should kill myself to save town the grief of reading me later. Do you agree with him? I should knowingly allow a guaranteed mislynch to occur? If your playing the game and trying your best as town then of course you shouldn't just allow your self to be lynched. But you did kind of allow this to happen. You complete absence from the thread is very telling and the strongest part of why your getting lynched. I will say that in some cases of lurkers it would be easier to have them modkill themselves then have to waste a lynch on them. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:42 Hopeless1der wrote: woah I never said its towns fault for lynching me. I'm not going to cite the many instances where I self-depreciate my own play by calling it scummy because I do it in damn near every game. However, Balla is telling me I should kill myself to save town the grief of reading me later. Do you agree with him? I should knowingly allow a guaranteed mislynch to occur? I didn't say this at all. You should absolutely not roll over and die. I was expecting 2 types of responses from you on this subject: 1. Egotistical, "i'm better than the other guy so i'd prefer having me alive" 2. Where you try to see where i'm coming from. You went middle of the road. I don't know where that puts you. I think outright saying you would kill a someone you think is townie to save you is kinda weird. The act itself not at all. The way you explained yourself I think is ok too. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
DO NOT LYNCH CAKE. I REPEAT DO NOT LYNCH CAKEMAN! DO NOT FUCKING LYNCH CAKEMANOFDOOM! I'll post more in 5 mins. That case is fucking awful. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:49 suki wrote: first off modkilling oneself is not in the spirit of the game. second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now. Nobody's getting modkilled. Not that at all. I'm pressuring hopeless on what I think is a faulty lonemeow town read and the fact that he said he would kill somebody he thinks he's townie to save himself. I don't think a town would SAY that so early. Actually doing it much later is totally normal from both alignments. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:49 suki wrote: first off modkilling oneself is not in the spirit of the game. second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now. I'm not advocating for self-modkillage. Balla: If you've done everything you can and town still wants to lynch you, you should let them Hopeless: No. I should save myself. Jay: You didnt try hard enough. Why didnt you try harder Hopeless? Hopeless: I'm hypothetically suggesting literally have a deciding vote to save myself. Should I take it? Jay: But you shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with! ->This doesnt actually address what I said Jay wtf can you read the argument I'm trying to address? - Yes I played scummy. I'm trying to correct that. Your argument has no place in the context of my conversation with Balla. - If I can save myself, I'm going to. It is the correct play based on the information available. Balla are you taking issue with the fact that I brought up the point about how I'd lynch LM over myself? The context of "I want to lynch scumread, I do not want to lynch townreads" isnt clear? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:49 suki wrote: first off modkilling oneself is not in the spirit of the game. second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now. Oh I agree completely. I am just being brutally honest. No I never said that was the sole reason. It's a big part of the reason tho. Other things are
Do you think these are valid reasons to lynch someone suki? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
Hopeless does come back into the thread sheeping Oats, and I called it out. However, his case against Oats was well-written. His case against cakeman also mirrored my thoughts on cakeman that I was in the middle of writing a case on. He wasn't forced to build a case on cakeman He's not actively lurking right now. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:54 JonnyLaw wrote: I'm catching up in the thread. DO NOT LYNCH CAKE. I REPEAT DO NOT LYNCH CAKEMAN! DO NOT FUCKING LYNCH CAKEMANOFDOOM! I'll post more in 5 mins. That case is fucking awful. Yea hes not my preferable lynch either  | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:59 Hopeless1der wrote: Balla are you taking issue with the fact that I brought up the point about how I'd lynch LM over myself? The context of "I want to lynch scumread, I do not want to lynch townreads" isnt clear? I'm taking issue with the fact that you said it so early when it wasn't even close to coming to a situation like that yet. I don't know why you felt the need to add that you would lynch him to save yourself at that point in time. It wasn't even close to lynch time. To me, it's kind of like some sort of weird slip of information bias. Regardless, we've said enough about the subject. Like I said your followup is ok so. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:03 jaybrundage wrote: @Hopeless Oh, I wasn't addressing your hypothetical situation in my post. But yes if you could save your self and your town you should take it. but not if I'm scum /waiting on Jonny's next post. | ||
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