On February 06 2014 04:11 Balla24 wrote:
Hey suki,

Why have you basically done the same thing that got you in trouble last game (NMM1)? You made a case on oats. He defended himself and posted a case on hopeless, you retracted and also posted a case on hopeless, he defended himself and posted a case on cakeman, and so on and so forth.

Who are some other people you would be ok with seeing die besides cakeman?

Hahaha.. The same thing happened last game. People started defending themselves and posting cases that I thought, 'hey, that sounds reasonable'.

I just lack the confidence to play this game well I guess.

Like, I just read Jonny's defense of cake and it sounds fine to me. Cake hasn't done anything particularly scummy, but his play feels like it could be scum motivated. Before Jonny posted his defense of cake I was going through who I would rather lynch between cake and Lonemeow and I came up with both of them equal. They both are just staying on the fence and don't feel like they're scumhunting.

##unvote
##vote LoneMeow

A point against LoneMeow, I don't see why LoneMeow hasn't voted yet even after being asked multiple times.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 05 2014 19:37 GMT

#626

That's it? The rest of the people have townreads?

suki

Canada1159 Posts

February 05 2014 19:38 GMT

#627

edit: well now he's placed his vote against Koshi.

LoneMeow

Finland1396 Posts

February 05 2014 19:39 GMT

#628

On February 06 2014 04:34 suki wrote:
A point against LoneMeow, I don't see why LoneMeow hasn't voted yet even after being asked multiple times.

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On February 06 2014 04:17 LoneMeow wrote:

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You were calling me town for a long time earlier; that's all you have to say about changing your mind so drastically? How does the earlier part of my filter that gave you town vibe look when you try to look at it from this perspective?

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This is all you have to say about one of the top lynch candidates for today? Really?

##Vote: Koshi

While we're at it, I'd love to hear if you have any comments on the points against Koshi I've raised.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

February 05 2014 19:39 GMT

#629

On February 06 2014 04:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
No LXIII was my last scumgame

Uhh...yeah. Based on that game and your entrance here I can't lynch you yet. I see where oats' change of mind came from now.

Gonna look at LM and koshi filters since no one else wants jay dead apparently.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

February 05 2014 19:42 GMT

#630

I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.

I think Jay is town. I think Koshi is town. Both of these I'll be revisiting when I have time.

I like Hopeless' recent play and am willing to give him more time to prove himself.

I think Oats is kind of scummy because of his two bad cases/tunnels against Hopeless and Koshi. However, people keep saying this is how he plays.

cake and lonemeow are the most suspicious to me because they haven't contributed.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

February 05 2014 19:43 GMT

#631

I'm an idiot. Underlined canceled votes in that count.

Anyway if I'm not mistaken LM set to be lynched and votes are all over the place. Let's try and get some consensus.

Anyway brb filtering koshi and lm.

Cakeman I really expect to hear some defense from you about the cases and some input on someone or I'm going to feel like a giant fucking jackass for defending scummers. I said at the beginning of the game don't make yourself lynch bait. You're going from lynch bait to nervous town in these last two hours you've been here and not commenting when you're clearly up for being lynched.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

February 05 2014 19:43 GMT

#632

I'll look at LoneMeow's and Jonny's case against Koshi and post my reads in a sec.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

February 05 2014 19:44 GMT

#633

@Jonny the revelation that cakeman had a seeming change-of-heart based on nothing doesn't do it for you? I follow your argument that he has had a similar playstyle in other games, but he literally chases after his own tail here with no outside influence.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

February 05 2014 19:44 GMT

#634

*ebwop nervous scum

jaybrundage

United States3921 Posts

February 05 2014 19:44 GMT

#635

Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.

On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it...

I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1.

##unvote
##vote: Hopeless

On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:

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LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill.

Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

February 05 2014 19:45 GMT

#636

The fact that he's here and not defending himself stinks of scum. Badly.

When I made those two posts defending him I had not caught up to the thread yet. I saw your case and looked at his filter in the two games I compared.

LoneMeow

Finland1396 Posts

February 05 2014 19:48 GMT

#637

On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.

I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

February 05 2014 19:48 GMT

#638

Cakeman have you played a scum game? This play reminds me of my only scum game. Say enough to not try and get lynched. If you're not the prime candidate say nothing. Bum saved me from being lynched and got himself lynched instead by calling me confirmed town.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 05 2014 19:52 GMT

#639

On February 06 2014 04:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Cakeman have you played a scum game? This play reminds me of my only scum game. Say enough to not try and get lynched. If you're not the prime candidate say nothing. Bum saved me from being lynched and got himself lynched instead by calling me confirmed town.

Also my NMM1 game.

jaybrundage

United States3921 Posts

February 05 2014 19:52 GMT

#640

Where the hell is sidesprangs replacement : /