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Balla24
2322 Posts
Why have you basically done the same thing that got you in trouble last game (NMM1)? You made a case on oats. He defended himself and posted a case on hopeless, you retracted and also posted a case on hopeless, he defended himself and posted a case on cakeman, and so on and so forth. Who are some other people you would be ok with seeing die besides cakeman? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.vinowalt.be/images/mosselen-friet.jpeg) My vote is also on the right place so life is good. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gA5BjwKEXfQn http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=cakemanofdoom Onto hopeless v cakeman. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 01:19 LoneMeow wrote: If you look at both of the posts in their entirety they're far less damning: It's not like he's saying "jay is town" and then suddenly going "jay is scum". More like a gradual shift from "I don't want to lynch jay" to "jay seems scummy but..." LM got it right. That's a very town line of thinking. He's considering the options regarding Jay and thinking about the game. His line of thinking is very transparent. Jay's contributing so he doesn't want to lynch him yet. If Jay's town he'll be helpful and if not he's posting enough we can catch him later. In between those two posts that hopeless picked out the scummy parts there was a lot of discussion regarding Jay even if he didn't post himself. From the linked game. On November 01 2013 05:16 cakemanofdoom wrote: I don't like how July suddenly picked poofter (who had 0 votes beforehand) out of the lurky people to vote for. It can only cause confusion at this point. I wanna keep my vote on July atm. I guess I'm suspicious of odin enough to vote for him if it comes down to him. I don't have a lot of trust for the current voters, but I'm not trusting a lot people in the game period so I guess there's no way around that. On November 01 2013 05:30 cakemanofdoom wrote: At first, I didn't want to lynch odin before he had more chances to read and talk. And others seemed more scummy to me at the moment. Odin was suspicious to me, but it didn't seem like it would be possible to get him lynched. July's posts are erratic, but I can see mafia motivations behind his most recent one so I like the lynch. Odin's chaos wasn't that close to voting deadline, and I think conversation starting was still a good idea at the time. He does this a few times in the game. It's town thinking about the game and working it through their mind. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:11 Hopeless1der wrote: but not if I'm scum  /waiting on Jonny's next post. I would prefer not | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
##vote jaybrundage Forgot my vote was on Koshi. Gonna update vote count. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 06 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote: LM his cases were on the 3 people that were most likely going to get lynched at that time and Alakaslam. Which is not even worth calling a case. His response to the case from jayB was: Why not Hopeless who is equally scummy? That doesn't make sense at all. You were calling me town for a long time earlier; that's all you have to say about changing your mind so drastically? How does the earlier part of my filter that gave you town vibe look when you try to look at it from this perspective? On February 06 2014 01:53 Koshi wrote: tbh, I thought he was a blue when reading him earlier. This is all you have to say about one of the top lynch candidates for today? Really? ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
Don't know what to think of his case on oats. I feel like I can understand most of oats's thought process. But oats has done some kinda weird things. Overall the effort makes me unwilling to lynch him. LM: I thought his questions were pretty good ones to ask. And he has pretty reasonable-seeming opinions on lynch targets now. Koshi: He had a policy that he didn't follow up on, he had a big case on Jonny that he didn't stand by. So what's left? -Casually calling Hopeless the best lynch, following thread sentiment. Then backing off after hopeless posted. -Voting LM. On February 06 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote: LM his cases were on the 3 people that were most likely going to get lynched at that time and Alakaslam. Which is not even worth calling a case. His response to the case from jayB was: Why not Hopeless who is equally scummy? That doesn't make sense at all. I don't see the problem with posting his thoughts on people he's watching/thinks might be lynched, it lets us know where he's at. Also, the question makes sense from the perspective of town trying to figure stuff out. It's reasonable to wonder why jay picked one lurky player over another. It's not like LM could have defended his own lurkiness there, anyways. I think Koshi's just trying to make up reasons to sound original as he votes a fairly easy target. So overall, I see nothing from Koshi except a poorly-reasoned vote on LM, a lot of short posts that I didn't get anything out of, and a policy/case that he retracted. ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:13 JonnyLaw wrote: Here's two things to look at regarding Cakeman. In this game people were suspicious of Cakeman on d1 for the same reasons hopeless pointed out in his case. Cakeman was town, was not lynched and end gamed the scum. The qt should give you some insight into cakeman's thinking. http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gA5BjwKEXfQn http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=cakemanofdoom Onto hopeless v cakeman. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 01:19 LoneMeow wrote: If you look at both of the posts in their entirety they're far less damning: It's not like he's saying "jay is town" and then suddenly going "jay is scum". More like a gradual shift from "I don't want to lynch jay" to "jay seems scummy but..." LM got it right. That's a very town line of thinking. He's considering the options regarding Jay and thinking about the game. His line of thinking is very transparent. Jay's contributing so he doesn't want to lynch him yet. If Jay's town he'll be helpful and if not he's posting enough we can catch him later. In between those two posts that hopeless picked out the scummy parts there was a lot of discussion regarding Jay even if he didn't post himself. From the linked game. He does this a few times in the game. It's town thinking about the game and working it through their mind. Show me? | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:16 JonnyLaw wrote: btw ##unvote ##vote jaybrundage Forgot my vote was on Koshi. Gonna update vote count. Can you give some updated thoughts about jaybrundage? And Hopeless1der. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On February 05 2014 18:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Day 1 - Deadline at Wednesday, Feb 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Hopeless1der (4): Oatsmaster, suki, Balla24, cakemanofdoom Oatsmaster (1): Hopeless1der, JonnyLaw (1): Koshi jaybrundage (1): JonnyLaw Hopeless1der (1): jaybrundage Koshi (0): LoneMeow (0): Not voted: (3): Sidesprang (will be replaced after D1), Alakaslam, LoneMeow If there's any mistakes, please let me know. At the moment, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched. Day 1 - Deadline at Wednesday, Feb 05 2:59pm MST (GMT-07:00) Hopeless1der (2): Oatsmaster, suki, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, koshi, jayb Oatsmaster (2): Hopeless1der, suki, Balla24, Alakaslam JonnyLaw (0): Koshi jaybrundage (2): JonnyLaw, alakaslam Koshi (2): Oatsmastercakeman, lonemeow LoneMeow (0): Balla24, jaybrundage cakemanofdoom (3): suki, hopeless, oats lonemeow(1): koshi Looks like cake's set to be lynched. Please change this. Correct me if that's wrong. I went quickly. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
What's your opinion of Koshi now? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
There are two ways I see to look at hopeless. 1) Town. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find someone who's lynch bait so I don't get lynched. 2) Scum. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find someone who's lynch bait so I don't get lynched. The first one is anti-town. The second one is anti-town. I'd lynch hopeless over cake any day. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:25 JonnyLaw wrote: I'm in the same spot as yesterday regarding Jay. There are two ways I see to look at hopeless. 1) Town. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find someone who's lynch bait so I don't get lynched. 2) Scum. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find someone who's lynch bait so I don't get lynched. The first one is anti-town. The second one is anti-town. I'd lynch hopeless over cake any day. You're right. I thought his first post was earlier. brb gonna read hd filter. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:24 Balla24 wrote: @Jaybrundage What's your opinion of Koshi now? Haven't really looked to much into him. I'll take a gander and get back to you. | ||
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