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On February 05 2014 18:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 1 - Deadline at Wednesday, Feb 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Hopeless1der (4): Oatsmaster, suki, Balla24, cakemanofdoom
Oatsmaster (1): Hopeless1der, suki, Balla24, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw (1): Koshi
jaybrundage (1): JonnyLaw
Hopeless1der (1): jaybrundage
Koshi (0): Oatsmaster
LoneMeow (0): Balla24, jaybrundage
Not voted: (3): Sidesprang (will be replaced after D1), Alakaslam, LoneMeow
If there's any mistakes, please let me know. At the moment, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched.
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On February 06 2014 04:52 jaybrundage wrote:
Where the hell is sidesprangs replacement : /
yeah im kind of peeved about that... basically 24+ hours where we can't even consider a spot's alignment....
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I have not played a scumgame.
From what I can tell, the main point against me is that I'm on the fence about a bunch of my reads. There's nothing I can really say to that besides the fact that I just wasn't absolutely sure.
It's a fairly valid point though, so attacking me is probably more towny than not.
And I was walking to a class that starts in 7 minutes. I can't be on 7-57 minutes from now, I'll be able to follow/ post from phone after that. 20 minutes or so after that I'll be on my comp again
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On February 06 2014 04:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Cakeman have you played a scum game? This play reminds me of my only scum game. Say enough to not try and get lynched. If you're not the prime candidate say nothing. Bum saved me from being lynched and got himself lynched instead by calling me confirmed town.
Quick forum search seems to say he's only played one game before this and he was town in that one.
Are you calling him scum now? After defending him so vigorously earlier? What changed your mind?
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On February 06 2014 04:55 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 04:52 jaybrundage wrote:
Where the hell is sidesprangs replacement : / yeah im kind of peeved about that... basically 24+ hours where we can't even consider a spot's alignment....
It's worse than that really, since we don't get any kind of connection between his slot and the flipped player.
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LoneMeow can you point me to a scumgame of yours?
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On February 06 2014 04:56 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 04:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Cakeman have you played a scum game? This play reminds me of my only scum game. Say enough to not try and get lynched. If you're not the prime candidate say nothing. Bum saved me from being lynched and got himself lynched instead by calling me confirmed town. Quick forum search seems to say he's only played one game before this and he was town in that one. Are you calling him scum now? After defending him so vigorously earlier? What changed your mind?
No, I'm getting pissed off if he's here and not saying anything still. Not having good reads and I'll be back soon make sense to me to be honest.
I didn't like your case when I read it then saw votes flying at cakeman. That's why I made that defense. I'm still leaning town with his last post.
hd what's your take on Koshi?
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On February 06 2014 04:59 Koshi wrote:
LoneMeow can you point me to a scumgame of yours?
NMM XLVII
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On February 06 2014 04:12 Koshi wrote:Just finished eating. + Show Spoiler +My vote is also on the right place so life is good.
Wasn't going to post until caught up, but that looks so good I could make this my goodbye post I I'm dead or something already
(From what I know we should have 2 hrs but if I'm wrong...)
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Here's another since that was a bit on the short side:
NMM XLII
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My thoughts on Koshi:
Koshi's case against Jonny wasn't very good, however the way he admitted the case was bad and seemed embarrassed about it read town to me.
I think Koshi's self-analysis was townie.
I feel that he has no reason to say that he reads cake as being blue if he's scum. This is one of the points that made me really doubt my case against cake because I have a history of mistargetting blues :<
His hunting scum activities have been a big case against Jonny, a vote and pressure against Hopeless, a short bit of analysis and a vote against LoneMeow. This is more than cake or LoneMeow's contributions I feel.
My thoughts on LoneMeow's case against Koshi:
On February 06 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote:KoshiThe fact that he's been defending me makes me suspicious. There should be no need to softly defend other townies when they're not even under imminent threat of being mislynched. The case he made on JonnyLaw was quite bad. I find it hard to believe he'd pay so little attention to miss things like: Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 04:40 Koshi wrote:Then there is Jonny and his talk about LM: On February 04 2014 07:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
And what the fuck is that vote? Lonemeow's said the most sensible thing since this game started. On February 04 2014 10:20 JonnyLaw wrote:
I agreed with his second post and dismissed the other one. That first one is an excuse for lurking. I dunno if that's scummy or not. Let's see how LM proceeds from here. Maybe I have a soft spot from him hosting one of our newbie games. On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him. On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.
Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game. Just look at the progression: "How do you dare to vote LM, he said the most sensible thing in this thread" "LM his second post was really good, I didn't consider the other ones" "LM can be lynched" "LM posted like shit early game, but it really was Koshi his fault" It literally goes from this guy posted incredible pro town towards everything this guy posted was shit. And there is a post right after Jonny said "I can lynch LM" where Jonny give his scummy list and I am on top of the scummy list and not LM. In none of the quotes does JonnyLaw say "I can lynch LM". Almost like Koshi didn't even really read what he quoted. Verdict: leaning scum
LoneMeow leaning scum on Koshi because he can't read.
On February 06 2014 01:43 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 01:35 Balla24 wrote:
Does him not reading what he's saying mean he's scum? I already said what I think about it, and I disagree that it makes him scum, more null. Why does him mis-reading mean he's scum?
In my mind town-Koshi would be far less likely to be lazy when making a case and would re-read what he's quoting. You're right though, it's not strongly alignment indicative at all.
Leaning scum because he can't read but it's not strongly alignment-indicative.
On February 06 2014 03:30 LoneMeow wrote:
Can we lynch Koshi? The way he's not participating in the discussion about cakemanofdoom is scummy as hell.
On February 06 2014 04:17 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote:
LM his cases were on the 3 people that were most likely going to get lynched at that time and Alakaslam. Which is not even worth calling a case.
His response to the case from jayB was: Why not Hopeless who is equally scummy?
That doesn't make sense at all. You were calling me town for a long time earlier; that's all you have to say about changing your mind so drastically? How does the earlier part of my filter that gave you town vibe look when you try to look at it from this perspective? Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 01:53 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2014 01:50 suki wrote:
Koshi, what do you think of cakeman? tbh, I thought he was a blue when reading him earlier. This is all you have to say about one of the top lynch candidates for today? Really? ##Vote: Koshi
I don't see Koshi as having seen LoneMeow as town for the early game. He spent a lot of time explaining that LoneMeow has a low post count and was waiting on contribution.
Not spending a lot of time on someone you think is town isn't a scum tell.
Honestly your reasons for thinking Koshi is scum are weak, LoneMeow.
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On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.
I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam?
Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here.
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.
So slam is town for me.
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Sorry Kittenman. I agree with Suki about Koshi. It's the same line of thinking I've been mulling over this morning.
Koshi's play doesn't fit scum agenda throughout the game.
I'll still lynch jay btw.
##unvote
##vote Lonemeow
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I still think jaybrundage is scum. But I will watch the candidates as they rise and "hammer" who I see most fit.
Why do folks think he is town? I see no town motive behind much of what e is doing
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On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.
I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam? Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here. That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this. So slam is town for me.
Heh, I remember my first newbie game I yelled someone was scum for a bbcode error
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On February 06 2014 05:11 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'll still lynch jay btw.
Could you make an updated case on him? There's plenty of new material since the last one. I want to see how the new stuff fits with your thinking.
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On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.
I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam? Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here.
That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D
On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.
This I do agree with.
Not sure what to make of him overall.
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Yep.
Like I said before. If Koshi's Jonny case was purposefully misrepresenting what jonny was saying, then he's scum. But evidence points to that it wasn't on purpose.
Another thing that is nagging me is I don't see anybody really doing anything together with Koshi. This is a terrible point since nobody has flipped but its still in the back of my mind.
LoneMeow on the other hand, still isn't really changing what he's doing. It's the same stuff that people have been calling him out for and he didn't change.
I'd still lynch Hopeless1der hard as hell too.
##unvote
##vote LoneMeow
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On February 06 2014 05:18 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.
I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam? Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here. That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.
This I do agree with. Not sure what to make of him overall.
Point out what you're talking about. I only see a few posts where he seems more like scum-slam and FAR more non-sensical trolly town slam.
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On February 06 2014 05:19 Balla24 wrote:
Yep.
Like I said before. If Koshi's Jonny case was purposefully misrepresenting what jonny was saying, then he's scum. But evidence points to that it wasn't on purpose.
Another thing that is nagging me is I don't see anybody really doing anything together with Koshi. This is a terrible point since nobody has flipped but its still in the back of my mind.
LoneMeow on the other hand, still isn't really changing what he's doing. It's the same stuff that people have been calling him out for and he didn't change.
I'd still lynch Hopeless1der hard as hell too.
##unvote
##vote LoneMeow
Where'd hopeless go?
He made a case and posted for an hour. All pressure seemingly dropped off him and he afks without commenting on Cakeman again or really trying to push the lynch.
I'll look at Jay again LM.
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