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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:45 GMT
#681
Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 05 2014 20:45 GMT
#682
On February 06 2014 05:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 05:27 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 05:21 Balla24 wrote:
On February 06 2014 05:18 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.


I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam?


Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here.


That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D

On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.


This I do agree with.

Not sure what to make of him overall.


Point out what you're talking about. I only see a few posts where he seems more like scum-slam and FAR more non-sensical trolly town slam.


Take this for example:
On February 05 2014 02:34 Alakaslam wrote:
He just isn't vocalizing his reasons.

Koshi is scummy at first because of his crazy entry to the thread. He is further scummy because he abandons the policy as some sort of joke as soon as he gets fire for it.

Oats is Oats, have you been in many games with him? I don't try to read him yet

Balla24 finally so town ist awesome.

Jaybrundage not near as scummy as I thought he was last night.

But I am devolving into list posting stuff you all either already know or won't care about.

I hope we aren't around looking for some sort of scum tell. I was and I was getting all pissy because I was finding them everywhere. What we need to do is find the unknown, by conventional or unconventional means.

Vote: LoneMeow

jaybrundage why are you scummy? I don't care if you know your alignment is town, why are you scummy? What have you done in this game that is scummy? I want you to look over stuff in your own filter and point it out.

if you feel like it, answer the same question Sidesprang. Or not.


He's freely giving out reads and doing things. This just isn't the Alakaslam I've played with before when he was town. The thing is, people change playstyles so I don't want to call him scum just yet, it's just that this change worries me.

The point is that in previous games he seemed like a total scum-Alakaslam when he was actually town, so now that he does not play like that I'm bothered.

This is a legitimate concern if anyone is wondering. Read "Extractor trick mafia" for an example. Or "Back to the Basics".


wtf? :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#683
Day 1 - Deadline at Wednesday, Feb 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
LoneMeow (5): Koshi, suki, JonnyLaw, Balla24, jaybrundage, Balla24, jaybrundage
cakemanofdoom (2): Oatsmaster, Hopeless1der, suki
Koshi (2): LoneMeow, cakemanofdoom JonnyLaw, Oatsmaster
jaybrundage (1): Alakaslam, JonnyLaw
Hopeless1der (0): Jaybrundage, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, suki, Oatsmaster, Koshi
Oatsmaster (0): Hopeless1der, suki, Balla24, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw (0): Koshi

Not voted: (1): Sidesprang (will be replaced after D1)
If there's any mistakes, please let me know. At the moment, LoneMeow is set to be lynched.

I may be a bit late for the nightpost. The deadline will be at 21:59 GMT (+00:00) as normal. Votes on that time will stil count, but they won´t if they were after that. Please be silent until I can make the daypost once the deadline has been reached.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 05 2014 20:49 GMT
#684
May as well be forthcoming.

Cake man is going to keep reminding me of cakepie, a bit of a vet. He seems "quiet", with regard to thread presence. He is kind of foggy.

So people Dinnae even want to think about why jay would do what I just did?

"Hmm I see something I think is designed to make me look scummy (and apparently poorly crafted at that), let's go do exactly what it is trying to make me do anyway"
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#685
The heck is up with this lone wagon?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:52 GMT
#686
##Unvote
##vote jaybrundage
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 05 2014 20:52 GMT
#687
On February 06 2014 05:50 Alakaslam wrote:
The heck is up with this lone wagon?

I want to lynch him and then jayB tbh. That soft defense into voting LM is just too much.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:54 GMT
#688
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it...

I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1.

##unvote
##vote: Hopeless


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game?

you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII?

Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it:
On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him.

Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town.

+ Show Spoiler [@balla] +
This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile.

nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum

nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3

nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1

normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1



LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill.

Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny.



Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.

Here are the updated vote counts.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left.

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless.

jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 20:54 GMT
#689
On February 06 2014 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 05:18 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.


I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam?


Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here.


That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D

On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.


This I do agree with.

Not sure what to make of him overall.

Why, thank you- I guess this is working

Anyhow my rea on jaybrundage.

If he saw my trap a mile away, why did he still go trip it? Why didn't he post like balla24 and/or point out it was a trap? Why does he want me to think he is scum- as either alignment?

Yet he claims my stupid trap was blatant?

Your "trap" was stupid. It was I'm gonna post random votes that look scummy and see who notices. Everyone who is currently in the thread is going to notice and should call you out. Scum can call you out or town. Its not alignment indicative. While finishing my post asking about your random switches. I thought to my self hes going to probably making some dumb "its a trap guys hurr durr" post.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 20:55 GMT
#690
On February 06 2014 05:50 Alakaslam wrote:
The heck is up with this lone wagon?


I didn't think I could Jay lynched and you weren't helping. I'd rather lynch Jay.

I think LM is more scummy than Koshi. koshi and lm was close when I voted.

##unvote
##vote jaybrundage

Lets see if this can work.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:55 GMT
#691
^
Reasons why Jaybrundage's vote on LoneMeow looks convoluted and bandwagony.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 20:57 GMT
#692
@Alakaslam

While I didn't think it was a trap at all, I don't see jaybrundage's reaction as scummy. I thought exactly the same thing. Your trap was dumb, and just because jaybrundage's tone was different than mine doesn't mean anything. Especially since his tone is consistently calm and collected throughout all his posts.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 20:57 GMT
#693
Good job summarizing? You basically posted what i said. If you want to analyze it go for it. But don't act like that's an explanation for your vote. How does trying to figure out who i want to lynch make me scum?
On February 06 2014 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it...

I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1.

##unvote
##vote: Hopeless


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game?

you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII?

Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it:
On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him.

Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town.

+ Show Spoiler [@balla] +
This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile.

nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum

nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3

nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1

normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1



LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill.

Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny.



Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.

Here are the updated vote counts.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left.

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless.


The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:58 GMT
#694
On February 06 2014 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it...

I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1.

##unvote
##vote: Hopeless


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game?

you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII?

Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it:
On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him.

Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town.

+ Show Spoiler [@balla] +
This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile.

nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum

nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3

nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1

normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1



LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill.

Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny.



Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.

Here are the updated vote counts.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left.

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless.



Why did you have to make me want to lynch jaybrundage. If I accept him being scum I must be wrong about both you and Koshi being scum...
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 20:59 GMT
#695
On February 06 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player?

In comparison to Lonemeow you post more and actually make cases.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#696
@Jay That was all the content and direction you provided the thread in each of those reads. You fluffed up your posts with votecounts (which is scummy on its own btw) and you aren't pushing your own lynches, you're just casually floating along with the thread. It reads like "look at me I'm here and posting and want to help." without actually doing productive things.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#697
On February 06 2014 05:57 Balla24 wrote:
@Alakaslam

While I didn't think it was a trap at all, I don't see jaybrundage's reaction as scummy. I thought exactly the same thing. Your trap was dumb, and just because jaybrundage's tone was different than mine doesn't mean anything. Especially since his tone is consistently calm and collected throughout all his posts.



That's it. When I read jay I feel like he's trying to [i]act[/] townie. He says all the right things to look town but I don't see where he's actually trying to hunt scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#698
On February 06 2014 05:59 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 06 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player?

In comparison to Lonemeow you post more and actually make cases.

Yeah guys, activity and reasoning = scum. You heard it here first.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 21:04 GMT
#699
On February 06 2014 06:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
@Jay That was all the content and direction you provided the thread in each of those reads. You fluffed up your posts with votecounts (which is scummy on its own btw) and you aren't pushing your own lynches, you're just casually floating along with the thread. It reads like "look at me I'm here and posting and want to help." without actually doing productive things.

Posting vote counts is a null tell. I want the thread aware of where we are in regards to lynching someone and the host wasn't keeping it as up to date as i would of liked.

I originally posted the case on Lonemeow. WTF are you talking about?

I then wanted to get on you because your scummy for reason I have posted.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 05 2014 21:04 GMT
#700
On February 06 2014 05:58 LoneMeow wrote:
Why did you have to make me want to lynch jaybrundage. If I accept him being scum I must be wrong about both you and Koshi being scum...


LoneMeow can you explain why Hopeless and Koshi can't be scum if jay is scum.
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