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Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
February 04 2014 18:35 GMT
#2441
SURPRISE SURPRISE
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 04 2014 18:38 GMT
#2442
On February 05 2014 03:35 Skanjab1s wrote:
SURPRISE SURPRISE

indeed.
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 04 2014 18:51 GMT
#2443
lulz
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 04 2014 19:18 GMT
#2444
Aw so mocsta is confirmed scum. I knew it.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 04 2014 19:26 GMT
#2445
Fat fat fat
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#2446
Rayn is really dumb, almost threw this game away
Together but separate, like oatmeal
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2014 21:59 GMT
#2447
I fucking hate you guys so very much
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2014 22:25 GMT
#2448
OK THIS IS WHAT WE DO NOW

Tommorrow we lynch Mocsta. He is now confirmed mafia.

No if ands or buts. The only way to win is to off mocsta then clear his scummate.

Mocsta has been pushing bum all damn game. He has also outted two of his currently dead scummates. I highly doubt at this point bum is mafia purely for this reason. He is the obvious misslynch setup.

the last scum is in slam oats and thrawn.

as such, after we off mocsta we lynch slam whos bombs will be placed so that when he dies he will confirm or kill thrawn if hes scum, oats if hes scum, or clear a mafia if slam is scum, or in the event the other two are.

This is obviously all on the context that bum is not scum. However I think thrawn is highly likely to be the second scum along with mocsta at this time.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2014 22:56 GMT
#2449
I am not scum and neither is thrawn.

Lynch bum at all costs.

Further LSB msg above infers that BG should not receive a role block. Ryan speculated about blue roles and the only plausible explanation I can think if was that he tried to set up a trap. It back fired.

Seriously. Why as scum would *I* Rb a BG and not shoot the mayor when you call Rb yaself as scum. And icon in the cake is to then claim the Rb yaself to be put into this situation.

Easy. I wouldn't. Its stupid. Pointless and doesn't fit towards meeting scum objectives.

I repeat. I am not scum and neither is thrawn.

Lynch bum at all costs.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2014 22:59 GMT
#2450
On February 05 2014 07:56 Mocsta wrote:
I am not scum and neither is thrawn.

Lynch bum at all costs.

Further LSB msg above infers that BG should not receive a role block. Ryan speculated about blue roles and the only plausible explanation I can think if was that he tried to set up a trap. It back fired.

Seriously. Why as scum would *I* Rb a BG and not shoot the mayor when you call Rb yaself as scum. And icon in the cake is to then claim the Rb yaself to be put into this situation.

Easy. I wouldn't. Its stupid. Pointless and doesn't fit towards meeting scum objectives.

I repeat. I am not scum and neither is thrawn.

Lynch bum at all costs.


LSB has confirmed that bgs do infact get notified of rbs. Furthermore you have said yesterday the only way scum was going to win was with one insane ballsy play.

Considering the only two confirmed town in the game at that point were me and skaj offing one had to be done. Skaj was also vehemently against a bum lynch and thought you were scum. He was shot for a reason.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2014 23:01 GMT
#2451
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> tbh
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> if he flips town, you die next cyle
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> so we have a 50%
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> mafia lynch rate right now
[23:39] <Mocsta> well i see no reason for him to do this as town
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> nor do i, but again
[23:39] <Mocsta> so i dont have a problem with that, cos he wont flip town

you already agreed to dying if he flipped town. He did flip town. Your up mocsta.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2014 23:15 GMT
#2452
If I was scum and felt the need to make a big play, then at the least I would clear up any ambiguities with the host before implementing the plan.

Again. Why Rb Ryan and shoot skanjab?
Why claim that Rb when I Ryan could have.

What you mentioned is one explanation for skanjab death. There are others that are plausible perhaps even more so. Met. He could have been shot to make bum look good.

This game is on the brink. Bum needs to be pushed
Have you forgotten my logs with him.
Have you forgotten how he tried to get me lynched day1 by whispering to you.
He's hammered what 4 Ppl with no justification

How do you even ignore this.I'm town. Thrawn is tien.
Bum is scum
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2014 23:22 GMT
#2453
On February 05 2014 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
If I was scum and felt the need to make a big play, then at the least I would clear up any ambiguities with the host before implementing the plan.

Again. Why Rb Ryan and shoot skanjab?
Why claim that Rb when I Ryan could have.

What you mentioned is one explanation for skanjab death. There are others that are plausible perhaps even more so. Met. He could have been shot to make bum look good.

This game is on the brink. Bum needs to be pushed
Have you forgotten my logs with him.
Have you forgotten how he tried to get me lynched day1 by whispering to you.
He's hammered what 4 Ppl with no justification

How do you even ignore this.I'm town. Thrawn is tien.
Bum is scum


Dude there were two rbs for the first time ever. Rayn has known of your status for multiple nights and you were never shot. In fact the only blue who has been sniped was the medic he stupidly outted to thrawn. He also told thrawn where said medic only told whos true protect to me. IE explains the initial bh snipe.

Also the hammering means jack shit when 2 of those people have flipped red.

Factor in youve been a scum read of multiple people who have flipped town.

Sorry dude but you line up too much and need to be lynched.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2014 23:40 GMT
#2454
Its plausible if kush told Ryan he was medic that he told others.

Working off a medic snipe, scum would have Rb kush instead of me.... This alone should make me town.

Who has read me scum that flipped.
Only kush who was a game changing medic.
Skanjab was a portal to kush.
And Ryan called me town last night changing his mind after hammered for no reason what so ever. He clearly stopped caring about this game.

Nothing has lined up.
You are choosing specific explanations to suit what you want to believe when other explanations exist

Fact is, I have been mislynchable all game in no small part due to bum. Its not a surprise I have been kept alive. That you at here to push me, clearly explains why skanjab was shot over you.

Aside from this bullshit Ryan Rb claim there was no reason to doubt me. And there is still none.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2014 23:51 GMT
#2455
On February 05 2014 08:40 Mocsta wrote:
Its plausible if kush told Ryan he was medic that he told others.

Working off a medic snipe, scum would have Rb kush instead of me.... This alone should make me town.

Who has read me scum that flipped.
Only kush who was a game changing medic.
Skanjab was a portal to kush.
And Ryan called me town last night changing his mind after hammered for no reason what so ever. He clearly stopped caring about this game.

Nothing has lined up.
You are choosing specific explanations to suit what you want to believe when other explanations exist

Fact is, I have been mislynchable all game in no small part due to bum. Its not a surprise I have been kept alive. That you at here to push me, clearly explains why skanjab was shot over you.

Aside from this bullshit Ryan Rb claim there was no reason to doubt me. And there is still none.


well he was 100% serious in his rb claim given that he claimed his before you did.

and i find it unlikely that youd be rbed all fucking game / two rbers this game. You have to die and we both know it.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 04 2014 23:53 GMT
#2456
Im totally not sorry about that rayn lynch.

Mocsta, can you explain why townrayn fakes a roleblock?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2014 23:57 GMT
#2457
It might be your call, but it is *our* loss.

You have a responsibility as confirmed town to treat all evidence without bias.

Again. You are wanting me lynched for what amounts to be "sloppy play"; yet given you felt I was town till now, its easily arguable as scum I had been far from sloppy.

Bum is right under your nose and you want to give him a free pass. I don't accept this.

Further i claimed my Rb instantly. Its not my fault you were not here - for hours might i add. Your favorite thrawn should be able to vouch for this.

Lastly, you seem to forget that slam claimed Rb. So no. It hasn't been just me
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 05 2014 00:01 GMT
#2458
On February 05 2014 08:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im totally not sorry about that rayn lynch.

Mocsta, can you explain why townrayn fakes a roleblock?

Ryan has been running fake ploys all game.

Claimed fake cop to kush
Tried to do that fake qt with you n thrawn
These are the main ones I am aware of.

And I know that we was growing suspicious of the blue claims.
Its highly likely this was a new ploy but because he was away for so long. Got too pissed off when he was voted to explain himself.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 05 2014 00:05 GMT
#2459
I want to lynch you because
1. There is only 1 Roleblocker.
2. Town claimed a Roleblock.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 05 2014 00:30 GMT
#2460
On February 05 2014 09:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I want to lynch you because
1. There is only 1 Roleblocker.
2. Town claimed a Roleblock.

I logged onto a comp just for you

Regarding the above, under normal circumstances I completely accept that.

However, this is not a normal circumstance. It is currently 4-2, and potentially after the NKs 3-2 = MYLO

I know lynching me will lose the game -- obviously given the above I can also accept others are struggling to realise this.

=====

Where do we go?

Well, *IF* i am scum, I have a buddy right.

I am telling you that this buddy is bum.

Why wouldnt you lynch him over me?

======

Regarding Rayn, this is a transcript directly after the grack hammer (and in the waiting interval for the flip)

[11:06] <Mocsta> miss you
[12:11] <Mocsta> welcome back
[12:11] <raynpelikoneet> owrst lynch ever
[12:12] <Mocsta> because you werent here
[12:12] <raynpelikoneet> but it does not matter
[12:12] <Mocsta> ?
[12:12] <raynpelikoneet> one blue is mafia
[12:12] <raynpelikoneet> i know it
[12:12] <raynpelikoneet> so now i need to find it


Next cycle we get a dual RB claim..... yes, I am telling you that this was a ploy from Rayn.

===================

When I spoke to Rayn yesterday we get this:


[16:29] <raynpelikoneet> why there are 2 people voting for me?
[16:30] <raynpelikoneet> in a game where if +1 vote gets on me the scum bumatlarge will obviously insta jhammer me and buy himself another day?
[16:30] <Mocsta> rb claims
[16:30] <Mocsta> is what it comes down to
[16:31] <raynpelikoneet> WHAT?
[16:31] <raynpelikoneet> what fucking br claims?
[16:31] <raynpelikoneet> rb*
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> okay
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> i'll self-vote
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> so bum can hammer me
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> this is so fucking stuopid
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> and you guys are so fucking stupid if you are toqwn
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> thank you for playing
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> if you can't löynch mafia then you can just as well lynch me
[16:32] <raynpelikoneet> i got a game with real players going on..


This sums up Rayns apathy yesterday.
He made his ploy to catch up probably expecting me to be shot. It backfired but his carefactor was zero because Vengeful started and he decided to prioritise that game over this one.

Fact is, when he quoted this convo above yesterday, he conveniently left out his last line. Which to me says it all.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=120#2390
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