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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 07:23:34
February 08 2014 07:21 GMT
#2621
well apparently we will find out
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 08 2014 07:31 GMT
#2622
Intriguing. Thx hosts.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2014 09:12 GMT
#2623
On February 08 2014 15:12 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 15:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah not really. Coag not playing got him lynched, not that he refused to post his seal. that was like the nail in the coffin.


That's not the point though.

The seal is game breaking. Even if it's "just the nail in the coffin" it's HUGELY game breaking.

I agree with Balla24. Though the seal was the first I have heard of it; its akin to Grush57 and "STARSENSES"

Basically, every game he was town he would post starsenses.

Obviously if he wanted to, he could deviate and use it as scum to win a game (because nobody would lynch him) but then the entire legacy of starsenses would die.

Not worth the amount of games required to seed, to just throw away.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2014 09:13 GMT
#2624
On February 08 2014 15:42 LSB wrote:
Slams Boms
Night 1 - Dead People, bombs returned
Night 2 - Roleblocked
Night 3+ - Bum/Thrawn, and then the final night Bum/Oats

Thats interesting. Most games with Hatter that I have experienced have the bombs on dead people not refunded.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 10:06:35
February 08 2014 09:15 GMT
#2625
Congrats to town for getting there in the end.
Good decision Thrawn.

From my perspective I was surprised we got there regardless.
The day of the Grack lynch, I was expecting to have to bus bum -- but somehow the gods aligned

The Rayn RB was a total goof and though we didnt deserve to win the game, that was a pivotal moment where the game was still wide open.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2014 09:19 GMT
#2626
On February 08 2014 15:08 Balla24 wrote:
Oh also thanks to mocsta!!
+ Show Spoiler +

This guy was one of the sole reasons I even still felt motivated to post on late day1 and day2. Those days mafia communication were at an all time low. I probably had like... 60%-70% of the entire QT posts at that point. Mocsta kept PMing me to keep at it, even though I felt totally alone vs like 15 people and we had some good chats about mafia theory and stuff. Guy is very cool and love to play with him.
Thanks Balla24.

As a side note: this scum activity was kinda the norm. In fact I think I have only played on one fully active scum team before in about 8 games.

Not that I have much bearing on suggesting how to win as scum, considering that we lost; however, you just need to do the minimum to survive.
I do not refer to activity.
I refer to convincing town you are town so that in LYLO; thrawn chooses you over oats.

Oats approach in LYLO could have easily made him scum (which even thrawn noted post-game), but you can't undo the 100hrs of gametime pre-LYLO either.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2014 09:28 GMT
#2627
Hi all,
I thought I would have a big spiel on this game but now that its over everything else feels meaningless.

On one hand I am excited the decision got to LYLO, but on the other hand, it wasn't meant to get their either.

My takeaway from this game is purely from the first 24hrs.

Its scummy to be active in PMs and not the thread; which is what i was called out for by BC.
*AT THE TIME* I thought I was active in PMs because I was busy; but in hindsight, I was in PMs because it was easier to establish relationships without scrutiny.

This is a takeaway because its ridiculously easy to fake townie distrust in PMs which I believe led to many reading me as town.
i.e. I forced people to put themselves in a position to tell me why *THEY* are town, and not vice-versa.

BC said it perfectly in our first chat -- which unfortunately was not saved by me:
Look for consistency between what I tell you in PMs and what I do in the thread to know if I am town or scum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 08 2014 10:16 GMT
#2628
On February 08 2014 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
I also slipped in te "coag sucks" QT, I should not have known mocsta got RBd. Luckily BC never read it, and grack wasn't in a position to verify it. Mocsta blew this game open for me. I doubt we would have come so close without him. We made a few major mistakes. The kush/BH night was an error, we thought We could shoot through kush prot, or mocsta did I didn't ask questions. The Roleblock claim obviously cost us, we didn't think Rayn would get a note. I probably should have shot slam roleblocked thrawn. I didn't know thrawn and oats were in such contact.

Also, lylo you can't really base reads off what they say that cycle. Mafia will mimic a town fairly well. It's much easier to catch them earlier. I thought what I said when you said was pretty much what I would have said if I was town. PMs were kind of misused I think. Mocsta benefitted greatly off them, and I felt if I had been present earlier I could have done more.

Where were Slams bombs?!


sadly I did notice it. The only person I mentioned this outright to was mocsta and maybe rayn or thrawn?

Like no one could remember if they had told you at that point -_-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 10:18:37
February 08 2014 10:18 GMT
#2629
I asked about it from someone and brought it up. I don't remember who it was and never got an answer as usual..
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 08 2014 10:53 GMT
#2630
I dont understand why you guys even roleblocked at all since you thought rayn was green.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2014 11:25 GMT
#2631
On February 08 2014 19:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont understand why you guys even roleblocked at all since you thought rayn was green.

read the qt.. bum was a constant foil lol

like every cycle we literally bumbled and bumbled.

Bum: Hey mocsta, you should claim RB

Mocsta: Hey Rayn, Im supa town I was RB'd

then in qt, check my reaction when I realise what just happened lol....
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 08 2014 13:38 GMT
#2632
no, like why did you roleblock a green?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2014 13:39 GMT
#2633
On February 08 2014 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
no, like why did you roleblock a green?

Ask bum...
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 08 2014 15:45 GMT
#2634
We didn't think he would get notified, apparently BGs and non-green vanilla get notified. I think we were debating shooting BC or not, so I might have just left the RB there. For future reference, If it's an LSB game, force him to sit down for an hour and ask about every relevant interaction you can.

If I had known I was the lylo candidate, we would not have shot the people who thought mocsta was scummy and thought I was town. The RB fiasco kinda made our kills seem silly.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 08 2014 15:47 GMT
#2635
On February 08 2014 19:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
I also slipped in te "coag sucks" QT, I should not have known mocsta got RBd. Luckily BC never read it, and grack wasn't in a position to verify it. Mocsta blew this game open for me. I doubt we would have come so close without him. We made a few major mistakes. The kush/BH night was an error, we thought We could shoot through kush prot, or mocsta did I didn't ask questions. The Roleblock claim obviously cost us, we didn't think Rayn would get a note. I probably should have shot slam roleblocked thrawn. I didn't know thrawn and oats were in such contact.

Also, lylo you can't really base reads off what they say that cycle. Mafia will mimic a town fairly well. It's much easier to catch them earlier. I thought what I said when you said was pretty much what I would have said if I was town. PMs were kind of misused I think. Mocsta benefitted greatly off them, and I felt if I had been present earlier I could have done more.

Where were Slams bombs?!


sadly I did notice it. The only person I mentioned this outright to was mocsta and maybe rayn or thrawn?

Like no one could remember if they had told you at that point -_-


When in doubt, fake a PM with a dead person. BH didn't reveal any of that shit. Neither did slam tell me anything, not sure if pointed that out. Dead people are scums best pals.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 08 2014 16:45 GMT
#2636
On February 09 2014 00:47 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 19:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
I also slipped in te "coag sucks" QT, I should not have known mocsta got RBd. Luckily BC never read it, and grack wasn't in a position to verify it. Mocsta blew this game open for me. I doubt we would have come so close without him. We made a few major mistakes. The kush/BH night was an error, we thought We could shoot through kush prot, or mocsta did I didn't ask questions. The Roleblock claim obviously cost us, we didn't think Rayn would get a note. I probably should have shot slam roleblocked thrawn. I didn't know thrawn and oats were in such contact.

Also, lylo you can't really base reads off what they say that cycle. Mafia will mimic a town fairly well. It's much easier to catch them earlier. I thought what I said when you said was pretty much what I would have said if I was town. PMs were kind of misused I think. Mocsta benefitted greatly off them, and I felt if I had been present earlier I could have done more.

Where were Slams bombs?!


sadly I did notice it. The only person I mentioned this outright to was mocsta and maybe rayn or thrawn?

Like no one could remember if they had told you at that point -_-


When in doubt, fake a PM with a dead person. BH didn't reveal any of that shit. Neither did slam tell me anything, not sure if pointed that out. Dead people are scums best pals.


I told BC where where the bombs were. no need need to need to tell need to tell thread thoughh
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