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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 09 2014 13:33 GMT
#1321
Goddamn marv, why didn't you play, we had basically the exact same thoughts on those players you talked about.
We could have been singing Kumbayaa and lynching maffyaa..
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 13:33 GMT
#1322
On January 09 2014 22:24 mkfuba07 wrote:
Gah, I was gonna point out how dick move analysis only eliminates the later inactivity from CC, not anything else anyone might have on him. But I didn't want to do it until I knew my action got off N1 XD My initial intention was to vig kush, though I was going to filter dive all of the alternatives today before deciding.

GG though. I'm not sure how making nothing but legitimate arguments against scum the entire game didn't confirm me as town. I mean, yeah, my filter is small. It's always small. But literally every single post D1 is about scum Cora.

Edit: but I wasn't too concerned because I was going to be confirmed by the daypost anyway (most likely).

People have a tendency to not read what I write even when I'm modconfirmed town, though
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 13:44:13
January 09 2014 13:39 GMT
#1323
On January 09 2014 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Goddamn marv, why didn't you play, we had basically the exact same thoughts on those players you talked about.
We could have been singing Kumbayaa and lynching maffyaa..

bugs this game kinda had what I call Palmaritis

Where you talk far too much about how the game "should" be played and don't take into account human emotion/reactions.

As an example, after the flip - yamato was really happy and was going around calling himself almost confirmed town, saying the wagon can't have been scum/scum, basically strutting about in a pretty cute way.

bugs called this "very scummy". Well... maybe in isolation, because maybe a mafia could do that. But generally speaking, yamato's tone and confidence in his own townieness strongly indicated that he was town. What yamato was doing was not 'very scummy' at all, in fact it was a reasonably strong town indicator. Towns are generally more likely to be confident in their own towniness. Even more than this, townies are more likely to think they look townier than they are for the wrong reasons (Toad is the perfect example of someone who always does this)

Same with what bugs said about gumshoe, bugs calling him "scummy as shit" for coming in last minute, doing some silly long reads post and not voting Cora. See yeah, on the surface that's pretty bad. But actually gumshoe was so blitheringly, moronically (no offence) unaware of what was going on, what gumshoe did was more likely to come from town. What mafia player, when he sees his scumbuddy claim scum, doesn't think his scumbuddy is claiming scum? That's a really unnatural mindset. Far more likely to be dopey townie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
January 09 2014 13:42 GMT
#1324
On January 09 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Insta re-roll roles and go?

It's a thought, but honestly dealing with this mess has worn my enthuisasm for hosting down a fair bit. Best to make room for another game, I feel. Perhaps I'll put up a sequel sometime.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 09 2014 13:47 GMT
#1325
thrawn i would really like to hear what was the intention behind saying this:
On January 09 2014 15:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
wbg are you here? I'm about to leave for this phase and would like your thoughts on yamato

Why does it matter what WBG thinks of yamato?

On January 09 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not planning on lynching WBG it shouldn't mean shit to you what he thinks at this point.

Now it's time to answer this thrawn.


It mattered because I was about to go to work, I didn't know who to leave my vote on because everyone was so concerned with policy lynch arguments and not with alignments. I figured even if bugs is scum he'd probably give better advice than anyone I was currently talking to.

That looked really bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 09 2014 13:50 GMT
#1326
On January 09 2014 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Goddamn marv, why didn't you play, we had basically the exact same thoughts on those players you talked about.
We could have been singing Kumbayaa and lynching maffyaa..

bugs this game kinda had what I call Palmaritis

Where you talk far too much about how the game "should" be played and don't take into account human emotion/reactions.

As an example, after the flip - yamato was really happy and was going around calling himself almost confirmed town, saying the wagon can't have been scum/scum, basically strutting about in a pretty cute way.

bugs called this "very scummy". Well... maybe in isolation, because maybe a mafia could do that. But generally speaking, yamato's tone and confidence in his own townieness strongly indicated that he was town. What yamato was doing was not 'very scummy' at all, in fact it was a reasonably strong town indicator. Towns are generally more likely to be confident in their own towniness. Even more than this, townies are more likely to think they look townier than they are for the wrong reasons (Toad is the perfect example of someone who always does this)

Same with what bugs said about gumshoe, bugs calling him "scummy as shit" for coming in last minute, doing some silly long reads post and not voting Cora. See yeah, on the surface that's pretty bad. But actually gumshoe was so blitheringly, moronically (no offence) unaware of what was going on, what gumshoe did was more likely to come from town. What mafia player, when he sees his scumbuddy claim scum, doesn't think his scumbuddy is claiming scum? That's a really unnatural mindset. Far more likely to be dopey townie.

Yeah, exactly +1000 on gumshoe read.

yamato has a towntell:
On January 07 2014 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
From this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439654&currentpage=12#236
..onwards in his filter. There is something happening, i just dunno what that something is, but i don't really care, because it's enough for me.

He basically can't do that as mafia. Or maybe he can, after this game..
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
January 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#1327
On January 09 2014 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I made a case on thrawn - Corazon told me to drop it "because it will cause a shitstorm in thread" without saying anything about the actual case. Then he said thrawn is town for his good contributions to scumhunting, i asked him to show those contributions (i honestly think there were none at that point) and he refused to do so. 24h later he said he lied about it because he did not want to get accused for it.

Oh yeah! I vaguely remember.

I think I remember seeing Cora make a post about yamato and when iamp (?) asked him why he wrote what he did, he talked about how he didn't want to be suspicious.

These were all good reasons to lynch Cora.

It's why I posted this in obsQT:

marvellosity was signed in when posted
01-08-2014
04:45 PM ET (US)
WoS keeps saying dumb things

"who would you rather have at lylo - kush or cora" is a terrible way to be deciding the lynch at this point


Pushing policy lynch of kush.
Don't feel bad about it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 13:54:10
January 09 2014 13:52 GMT
#1328
Wave i literally laughed my ass off when you posted about kush. haha.
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 13:57:48
January 09 2014 13:57 GMT
#1329
On January 09 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave you literally laughed my ass off when you posted about kush. haha.

This sentence makes me laugh my ass off.
But seriously, why?

Edit: Boo you edited it, luckily I have it saved here for all eternity
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
January 09 2014 13:58 GMT
#1330
Oh can I ask something else?
I got an 'unofficial warning' from Slam during the game for what essentially amounted to absolutely nothing.
Aqua did you find anything of what I posted close to crossing the line?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 09 2014 14:00 GMT
#1331
personally i thought this game was played with a pretty good level of aggression, without overstepping the boundaries
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 09 2014 14:01 GMT
#1332
i got a warning
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 09 2014 14:04 GMT
#1333
My apologies Cheesecake if you feel like i was too rude towards you. I never intend to attack people but their arguments. I'm sorry if you felt insulted.

My condolences
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 14:11:21
January 09 2014 14:10 GMT
#1334
Dat N1 town victory.

Like in "I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia 2".
I had a good night of sleep.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
January 09 2014 14:21 GMT
#1335
On January 09 2014 22:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh can I ask something else?
I got an 'unofficial warning' from Slam during the game for what essentially amounted to absolutely nothing.
Aqua did you find anything of what I posted close to crossing the line?


On January 09 2014 23:01 iamperfection wrote:
i got a warning


It's late here and I'm kind of hazy but I'm pretty sure it has to do with this page: link

Having reread it I stand by Alakaslam's sentiment in that I think you both needed to be reminded that bashing on Kush wasn't a productive use of your time. However, I don't think it progressed to the stage where a banlist warning is warranted.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 09 2014 14:24 GMT
#1336
Not really something hosts should be getting involved in imo, but it aint my game

It didn't really cross any lines. Expressing frustration/being annoyed is a pretty natural thing in mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 09 2014 15:10 GMT
#1337
i think wos is in love with me because every single post he said my name.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 09 2014 15:25 GMT
#1338
Oh yeah.

I did that for 2 reasons: 1, telling someone "don't sign up"

Look at the time it is taking to fill LXIV. No I am not a fan of telling even the most lazy antagonistic fool to get out of here entirely, that just barely crosses the first possible line but it does.

2, knowing full well stuff was not that serious but might get there, wanted to nip stuff in the bud. I hate ban list warnings/drama.

The WoS stuff was, frankly, a mistake XD I attributed saying something like "yeah you really shouldn't {sign up}", which...

...he never said

Even if he had that is even closer to the line.

Since the whole point was to avoid ban list stuff, I would actually have argued with aqua if he didn't already essentially state the same sentiment.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 15:30 GMT
#1339
We'll that was... Disappointing...
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#1340
This game was frustrating as fuck and in all honesty no one played all that well. I'm not proud of my play.

I was preparing a post to say that tomorrow we should kill between Artanis, fuba and gumshoe tomorrow. I was going to wait till deadline and post that anyone who attacked gumshoe in the meanwhile is probably scum because he did several things throughout the night that were really townie.

The number of players who decided to do fuck all was way too high. I will reiterate that I am not going to be playing for a while as long as players like kush get a free pass. That's only possible when there are other people in the game who are also lurking/doing nothing.

iamp, rayn, thrawn, and WoS all looked to me townie enough to discuss things with (even if rayn would often say things that are really weird)

Yamato, on the other hand, was the one super confusing factor. He did fuck all even though he was around the entire time. Obviously now it's probably true that he actually was demoralized but if this is a thing that has been happening in recent games to you then by all means take a break.
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