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I seem to remember someone calling that early Artanis/CC interaction looked fishy, so good call whoever that was.
Just a few comments:
Cora - Correct me if I'm wrong here but you were actively choosing to assist in the shitting up of the thread? In which case well played; it just so happened in this case town actually had a really good mindset going in terms of attempting to rid ourselves of toxicity at the very least (and at best of course, scum) which really doesn't seem to happen very often in games these days. I think the trend recently has been a lot of townies causing the anti-town issues, so I know personally I kinda figured you'd flip town, as seems to happen very often. It makes me wonder if that in the end wasn't the right way to play, but of course then again you couldn't have known we'd actually attempt to remove you for it in this game I suppose.
CC asking for replacement - First of all, people REALLY NEED TO STOP ASKING FOR REPLACEMENTS IN THREAD. I do understand why CC was angry (hell I can maybe even understand Cora here as well) because people were calling both of them out for inactivity/uselessness and yet we had far worse culprits. Even with CC gone most of the day I still wouldn't have been badgering him so hard on that point especially considering we still had kush/gumshoe/fuba who had been around and done way less. I suppose this one is all part of the game though so in the end maybe it just comes down to, 'if you can't handle things, for whatever reason PLEASE just DON'T PLAY.'
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It was me and JAT but tbh we misread Artanis' posts.
If you can post 2 posts / day phase and have time for no more do not fucking use that time to argue about semantics or something irrelevant, read the thread and make one coherent case on your top scumread and try to push it. That's it, even if you are wrong or miss some other stuff or fail to consolidate it shows you have a clear opinion and you stand behind it. If you give 8 half-assed reads which are not even reads or are not explained or that make no sense given what's actually happened in the game you are not trying to get scum lynched, you are trying to do something you can't possibly achieve if you are town. Who cares who is your #4 scumread, who cares if you do not like player X. You are here to lynch mafia and not for telling who is a cool guy and who is not.
This is what bothered me about Cheesecake and not at all about fuba/gumshoe.
I was planning on making kush contribute on N1 which would have probably succeeded in figuring out his alignment.
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What would people's night actions have been tonight?
I was debating between RBing gumshoe/thrawn/kush or not at all.
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Calling the Cora lynch a policy lynch or whatever is kinda belittling what the lynch was (or should have been about).
Corazon is a stubborn motherfucker as town and yet in this game he just wasn't.
On January 08 2014 01:00 iamperfection wrote:
1.mkfuba do you think a scum corzan would quickly retract his thoughts on me like he did?
2.What do you think is more likely for him to do as scum be stubborn and continue his read? or do what he did?
1.Yes
2.Do what he did
As town he sticks hardcore to whatever his guns are
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Right marv. What outed him was the stance on my case on thrawn, that was a big nono.
+ one secret special tell i won't reveal ^^
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On January 09 2014 22:16 marvellosity wrote:Calling the Cora lynch a policy lynch or whatever is kinda belittling what the lynch was (or should have been about). Corazon is a stubborn motherfucker as town and yet in this game he just wasn't. Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 01:00 iamperfection wrote:
1.mkfuba do you think a scum corzan would quickly retract his thoughts on me like he did?
2.What do you think is more likely for him to do as scum be stubborn and continue his read? or do what he did? 1.Yes 2.Do what he did As town he sticks hardcore to whatever his guns are
I don't think that's quite fair.
He was super fucking stubborn about my 'lying' about what he said (and I believe he did the same thing to WBG and Rayn as well) but I think he never flat-out tried to push any of us for it.
And I'm not solely referring to it as policy but there was a justification of policy behind it in terms of his interaction with the thread. I mean in the end most of the people voting for him did so because they thought he was scum anyway.
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On January 09 2014 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right marv. What outed him was the stance on my case on thrawn, that was a big nono.
+ one secret special tell i won't reveal ^^
What was his stance? I didn't follow the whole game
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I made a case on thrawn - Corazon told me to drop it "because it will cause a shitstorm in thread" without saying anything about the actual case. Then he said thrawn is town for his good contributions to scumhunting, i asked him to show those contributions (i honestly think there were none at that point) and he refused to do so. 24h later he said he lied about it because he did not want to get accused for it. 
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On January 09 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
Glorious Victory?
At least i did not let you lynch yamato. ^_^
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Gah, I was gonna point out how dick move analysis only eliminates the later inactivity from CC, not anything else anyone might have on him. But I didn't want to do it until I knew my action got off N1 XD My initial intention was to vig kush, though I was going to filter dive all of the alternatives today before deciding.
GG though. I'm not sure how making nothing but legitimate arguments against scum the entire game didn't confirm me as town. I mean, yeah, my filter is small. It's always small. But literally every single post D1 is about scum Cora.
Edit: but I wasn't too concerned because I was going to be confirmed by the daypost anyway (most likely).
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On January 09 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:At least i did not let you lynch yamato. ^_^
pretty sure i decided to not lynch yamato.
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On January 09 2014 22:24 mkfuba07 wrote:
Gah, I was gonna point out how dick move analysis only eliminates the later inactivity from CC, not anything else anyone might have on him. But I didn't want to do it until I knew my action got off N1 XD My initial intention was to vig kush, though I was going to filter dive all of the alternatives today before deciding.
GG though. I'm not sure how making nothing but legitimate arguments against scum the entire game didn't confirm me as town. I mean, yeah, my filter is small. It's always small. But literally every single post D1 is about scum Cora.
I kinda chatted to Artanis a little about this on skype
Basically said you *should* be viewed as town, but that it's possible to make the argument where you are mafia, and you just decided to do a weak bus on Cora on the assumption that he wouldn't get lynched (you didn't post that much, even if you were right). It's not unheard of for mafia players to do this after all
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On January 09 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:I made a case on thrawn - Corazon told me to drop it "because it will cause a shitstorm in thread" without saying anything about the actual case. Then he said thrawn is town for his good contributions to scumhunting, i asked him to show those contributions (i honestly think there were none at that point) and he refused to do so. 24h later he said he lied about it because he did not want to get accused for it.
Oh yeah! I vaguely remember.
I think I remember seeing Cora make a post about yamato and when iamp (?) asked him why he wrote what he did, he talked about how he didn't want to be suspicious.
These were all good reasons to lynch Cora.
It's why I posted this in obsQT:
marvellosity was signed in when posted
01-08-2014
04:45 PM ET (US)
WoS keeps saying dumb things
"who would you rather have at lylo - kush or cora" is a terrible way to be deciding the lynch at this point
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As an aside, bugs posted a lot of weird shit this game.
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Eh, I suppose. I mean, that's basically what I did in... Basterd, I think? Basically just whined a bunch about Stutters XD In any case, maybe this is just indication that I should be more insistent about my scumreads.
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On January 09 2014 22:26 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
Glorious Victory? At least i did not let you lynch yamato. ^_^ pretty sure i decided to not lynch yamato.
I am pretty sure if bugs' "suggestion" on "everyone vote for yamato nao - no other discussion kthxbye" would have gone through yamato would have gotten mad and raged himself lynched considering he was already depressed from the Extractor trick game.
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On January 09 2014 22:30 marvellosity wrote:
As an aside, bugs posted a lot of weird shit this game.
yeah, i noticed that too.
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who were you going to shoot mkfuba?
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i was going to heal yamato by the way
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