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On November 23 2013 15:54 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:34 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already. Then replace out. Omg cora not everyone can be around for deadlines, with people playing from multiple timezones its just not possible. And for you to be so eliteist like this is just dumb, if I only joined games where I could be around for deadline I couldnt join 5/6 of the games as they are mostly made for US and Europe deadlines. The problem simply isn't that you can't be here for the deadlines, it's the fact that you do absolutely nothing in the 48 hours between deadlines. If you helped town figure out a lynch with the time you had to play, I would not have a problem with it. The problem I have is that you don't help town get any lynch at all and it just seems like you don't care. Why should we keep you around?
I gave you my reads, I gave you my notes, yes I should have done more but irl stuff came up, I dont forsee that happening again. But you told me to replace out for missing deadlines, not for being unactive. You called me scum for bing inactive. Now your saying its both, you are contridicting yourself here cora.
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On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, not gonna apologize about the flip. I'm sure I'll have plenty say to Rayn post-game. Escpecially if Rean really is scum (which I still think).
Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.
Also gonna look into Rayns other scumreads though I don't know how much stock I can put into them because of how wrong he was about me. But I don't feel like he could really go 0 for 3 in his reads so if I had to choose 1 scum between Moc and Bereft, right now I'm gonna say it's Moc. But this is before my reread.
I think rayn was wrong in one of his reads in you, but when I make my bereft and mocsta cases please look into them because town rayn does figure shit out. Also update your thoughts when you can.
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Also, this post:
On November 21 2013 13:32 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 13:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
Bereft, I would like to know why you don't think we should lynch Onegu. I was really puzzled when you threw that read out (as were others) and I just want to know why you see Onegu in a good light. When you said you thought he was town I got this feeling that we weren't reading the same game. i like that he came into the thread with a bunch of off the cuff reads -- to me this reads as careless, unstructured, bold. Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 20:28 Onegu wrote:On November 20 2013 12:50 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.
Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.
Now to my goals/early game statements:
1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.
2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.
3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.
On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
Couldn't agree more. Also, don't shit up the thread with useless spam like the LXIII game please. I tried keeping up but the amount of shit posts just trolling/making useless jokes/comments is unbearable and makes it impossible to tell low-laying scum from trolling townies. If anyone goes around posting stupid oneliners without saying anything meaningful they have my vote >.> Reans first post into the thread and it just fakes activity. He doesnt say what he agrees with and there are multiple things to agree with, does he agree with all or only some he, never actually says what points he agrees with. This is a very scummy first post. Also if mocsta didnt retract his post limit on himself I was going to call him scum, but he did and I am ok with it for now. I do want to point out he only takes it after cora points out his spam. But unlike cora I thought it was scummy, because it was a easy way to avoid conversation. The was one more post from mocsta I didnt like will find it in moment it was post 4or 5 where he gives 3 scum reads with no reason and then says half the thread hasnt posted so his reads can change. Coras case on Sciberia is terribad and scummy. Anyway rean is really scumm though. Sorry Im at the mall but when I am home I will catchup on both of my games and be up late playing. Ill be checking in periodicly while Im at the mall though. if he's scum, this is not at all a "safe" post to bust into the thread with. i think it's on point that he calls mocsta's thread presence out. i really want to believe moc is town, but i keep seeing small red flags embedded in his posts. he's the first person to really do this, and if scum, i think this is also pretty bold because mocsta's obviously an aggressive player. i was accused of being scum and attempting to disrupt a town circle for telling mocsta to explain himself. he gives me a very very slight town lean (exact phrasing "starting to look better") at a time when it's totally unnecessary to do so, considering everyone else would most likely have slotted me into the "lurker, null, need to hear more from" category if prodded. admittedly his last post is a jumbled mess and i have no idea what he's saying with this: Show nested quote +Im going to go over your reads here and just ask you how you came to these because alot were null to me or the exact opposite of what you wrote so lets go.
1 hes trying to be clever there is nothing to be overdone and there is no way a troll post like this can be scummy, fuck the police was already taken...
2 why cant sciberia find the repeat and calling of you obv town scummy, but your troll post null as it was the first post in the thread? You getting that it is scum-scum interaction I dont understand how you get that read from this post.
3 how is this agressive, you put a pregame post restriction, then start the game numbering your posts, seems like you are going to keep your post restriction up. Calling you out for it isnt agressive its correct when all your first few posts are trolling.
4 this is fine
5 he made a troll response how is that overcompensated? Doesnt make sense and him not thinking the same as you is a scum read?
6 the first part of this is correct that post was null, the second part you can only get so much info from the first page and alot of page one was trolling. Telling someone to keep looking isnt scummy, its not damage control.
7 How is this a scumslip, 2 different people thought you were masons, I know you kinda think they are both scum at this point, but when you drop lines about being connected with thrawn people might think you are masoned, no way this is a scumslip.
8 again not a scumslip
9 reans first post is uber scummy. It fakes agreeing with coras null post, and then says nothing and there is no way he thinks he is saying something meaningful.
10 iirc you had already said you werent masons so he says the only other option how is that townie?
12 meh ok
12b also fine
13 you do the samething later on when you talking about haveing such a good town atmospher so how can you give him scum points for this?
14 syas nothing why you post this, I dont know his meta so this poat means nothing...
15 still dont know how you are seeing scum scum intreactions here. Maybe you are just tunneled at this point. Also at this point you say you like aqua calling out rean.
16 again why post a completely null post?
17 This is fine, but you are like he agrees with me that mean hes awesome town
18 this has been talked about already, why are you so tunneled on scum-scum here doesnt make since.
19 the post is good that means the timeing is fine also, even if I am argueing with someone and I see something that needs questioned I will question it reguardless of what else is going on
20 admit to being tunneled
21 this is fine
22 tunneled
23 meh no point in continueing on with cora, him moveing on is fine and how he did it was fine.
24 really wishywashy post but also slightly dinstanceing himself from rean while giveing him a town read at the same time. I think this is really scummy from you mocsta. Your thoughts on rean is just really odd. but i do think it's a very strong point in his favor that his posts are coming off as being written with a lack of care as to how they'd be perceived.
is a spot on read for you. Except for the fact that Bereft can't tell that not caring about the lynch is scummy.
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Basically with that post I agree with what Bereft said except that I feel the things about being "careless, unstructured, bold" (bold was a stretch) make you look really scummy.
If you show that you care about D2 lynch, I'll rethink voting for you. But for now, my vote stays on you.
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On November 23 2013 15:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:48 Aquanim wrote:
Another question for you Thrawn, the same as for Corazon:
Do you think Rean is scum? If not, convince me. First I want you to explain why you don't care about the Bereft discussion. You asked me once about Bereft's (him/her? I want to use pronouns) defense, I ignored the question, and you found it important enough to ask me again, so why are you doing nothing with my answer and trying to change the conversation?
Because I think Bereft's town and I want to talk about people who I think are scum.
Bereft's attitude to Rayn that there is no value in keeping Rayn in the game regardless of his alignment is pretty much the same as my own opinion of Rayn and played a part in my desire to lynch him.
Saying "I can't see town doing this" is a meaningful way to express your opinion as long as you specify what "this" is, which Bereft did:
On November 22 2013 00:00 Bereft wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn
I think its completely irrational for a townie to bust into the thread the way rayn is doing now flinging shit like an angry bull. there is no reason for him to be behaving this way as town.
And I agree that there was no reason for Rayn to behave that way as town. Even after Rayn has flipped I still don't think he was playing to his win-con. He was deliberately trying to lynch himself a long time before his lynch was completely settled...
I think Bereft not wanting to talk to Rayn is perfectly understandable - Rayn is an unpleasant person to talk to. Bereft did in fact have at least some interactions with Rayn, however. Furthermore, if Bereft was convinced that Rayn was the best lynch what further profit is there in talking to Rayn? Far better to prod other people into voting for Rayn, like so:
On November 22 2013 02:16 Bereft wrote: why do you think its more beneficial to keep a toxic player around who gives the fake intention of martyring (without actually intending to be a martyr) vs an analytical level headed player who's at least giving the impression of being as transparent as possible?
On November 22 2013 11:42 Bereft wrote:
holyflare is there any chance you'd be willing to vote rayn? even if not voting rayn means a no lynch? how about you, scib?
Furthermore, Bereft's made some posts which perfectly echoed my own thoughts at the time; thinking in ways I don't think a scum would think.
On November 22 2013 07:56 Bereft wrote:
I will be shocked -- SHOCKED -- if rayn flips town. but not sorry.
Rean, you caught up on the thread yet? HF, how far along are you?
On November 23 2013 10:34 Bereft wrote:
@Cora - neither. the 1-2 people on the rayn train are holyflare and MAYBE aqua.
naturally I find the afkers suspicious, esp onegu and rean, but I haven't had a chance to reread filters. probably won't have a chance to go through them till later tonight or tomorrow though.
aqua is actually coming off as fairly town to me right now, but I suspect that while maybe 2 scum are in the obviously sketchy lurker group, 1 is hiding in plain sight among my proactive, townie reads. the town read I plan to reevaluate is aqua.
(Obviously I don't plan to reevaluate myself but my current working theory is 2 sketchy lurkers and one proactive player.)
And finally, gut says Bereft's town. Your turn, what don't you like about lynching Rean?
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On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive?
1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that.
2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though.
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And if you're wondering why I didn't comment on Bereft earlier, it's because I wanted to see the opinions of some lurkers before showing mine - but what the hell.
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On November 23 2013 16:13 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive? 1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that. 2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though.
I think that scum definitely wouldn't mind a no-lynch over lynching Rayn. Rayn shits up town atmosphere something chronic. Take a look sometime at how many games where rayn was killed N1 town won, and how many games where he was killed much later scum won. It's educational.
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Also when are people going to realize this is a game of logic not emotion, rayn never personally attacks people, he only attacks thier gameplay. I have a problem when people are attacked with personal assults that have nothing to do with the game rayn never does this. Rayn forces his reads down your throat, and when he is throwning reads everywhere and changeing them constantly its difficult to follow, but when he tunnels onto someone most of the time he is right. And in this game say what you want rayn was playing the game and wanting to policy lynch him for it dumb. Mocsta you habe played multiple games with him why all of a sudden do you want to policy lynch him this game?
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On November 23 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:13 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive? 1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that. 2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though. I think that scum definitely wouldn't mind a no-lynch over lynching Rayn. Rayn shits up town atmosphere something chronic. Take a look sometime at how many games where rayn was killed N1 town won, and how many games where he was killed much later scum won. It's educational.
In fact, the only way I can see scum sticking out their necks a long way to lynch Rayn is to save Rean, who was looking very likely to be the lynch otherwise.
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On November 23 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:13 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive? 1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that. 2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though. I think that scum definitely wouldn't mind a no-lynch over lynching Rayn. Rayn shits up town atmosphere something chronic. Take a look sometime at how many games where rayn was killed N1 town won, and how many games where he was killed much later scum won. It's educational.
Rayn figures shit out and not giving town free mislynches is important. I think no lynches are bad for town and scum, worse for town but depending on who is up for lynch scum want to get rid of that person and a town rayn fits that imo.
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On November 23 2013 16:24 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:On November 23 2013 16:13 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive? 1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that. 2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though. I think that scum definitely wouldn't mind a no-lynch over lynching Rayn. Rayn shits up town atmosphere something chronic. Take a look sometime at how many games where rayn was killed N1 town won, and how many games where he was killed much later scum won. It's educational. In fact, the only way I can see scum sticking out their necks a long way to lynch Rayn is to save Rean, who was looking very likely to be the lynch otherwise.
Meh I think I end up the wagon if rayn doesnt replace in.
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On November 23 2013 16:23 Onegu wrote:
Also when are people going to realize this is a game of logic not emotion, rayn never personally attacks people, he only attacks thier gameplay. I have a problem when people are attacked with personal assults that have nothing to do with the game rayn never does this. Rayn forces his reads down your throat, and when he is throwning reads everywhere and changeing them constantly its difficult to follow, but when he tunnels onto someone most of the time he is right. And in this game say what you want rayn was playing the game and wanting to policy lynch him for it dumb. Mocsta you habe played multiple games with him why all of a sudden do you want to policy lynch him this game?
Okay now you're just wrong. Rayn was deliberately trying to get himself lynched this game to prove that we couldn't read him, which is a bloody stupid way to play. I've seen him relentlessly tunnel many townies. And as for not personally attacking people:
On November 22 2013 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least i am not a whiny little girl when i am accused of being scum.
On November 22 2013 11:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he's just hrowing shit at me for no reason. there is no reason to do so if he is town.
when i flip he'll act "angry" and "FUCK YOURAYN WHY DID YOU DO SO".
t_T
you're a sad person aquanim
In any case this is no longer relevant to today's lynch so can we drop it?
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Yeah we can drop it but rayn was talking about in game stuff with you aqua.
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And that is why I said normally right I know he is wrong also looking at WoS. But given time rayn does figure shit out.
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On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1.
Posts this then follows up with these.
On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that.
This only after being asked his thoughts on it.
On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens.
And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1.
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On November 23 2013 16:41 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1. Posts this then follows up with these. Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. This only after being asked his thoughts on it. Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1.
Onegu you're so bad. They lurked N1. Hard to talk to someone who isn't there.
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Ok finished up my notes will be working on my cases now. But leaving for the mall, will work on them and post them while I am there.
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On November 23 2013 16:42 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:41 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1. Posts this then follows up with these. On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. This only after being asked his thoughts on it. On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1. Onegu you're so bad. They lurked N1. Hard to talk to someone who isn't there.
So what they werent there you can still talk about them, you didnt.
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The game starts out with me making a case against Aqua. Jampi doesn't address this case, and it was the biggest thing happening in the thread. I force him to talk about it, and his response is that he agrees with my case, and puts his vote down on Aqua where it remained for the rest of the cycle. When rayn flew off the handle, jampi did not put effort into trying to figure out rayn's alignment and he did not put effort into explaining his take on the situation. He never once gave his read on rayn after rayn became an issue. The pattern is that jampi avoids the controversial issues, and he hid behind his aqua tunnel for all of D1.
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