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On November 23 2013 14:15 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 13:56 cDgCorazon wrote:
Also Mocsta, I'm tired of you picking on me. You've been waffling on your read about me. Either make the fucking case or hold your tongue. I was posting stuff that stuck out as I was reading. Using analogies isn't scummy. Its when you dont use them and suddenly decide to. im specifically referencing "sharks were circling rayn" I dunno where my read on you sits; smoethings are good, somethings are bad. This probably means you are town, but im not confident. low priority to me regardless.
Unfortunately the correct play is to leave HolyFlare alone. It is possible scum was RB or Delay KP. If Delay KP, its self-confirming. --> ezpz lynch later If RB, its odd play and the claim was made pre-lynch; suggesting its real. Absolutely dumb ass claim regardless.
##Vote: jampidampi*Maybe there is scum in the actives, but they can be figured out. Guys like this guy are too unknown. Early cycle is our best opportunity to put pressure. I have had an issue with him ever since he had the mindset to declare Corazon could be emotionally tunneled and then proceeding to tunnel aquanim over semantics. Because, I dont think he knows corazon that well, so the call emotional tunnel suggests he is highly analytical. This doesnt sit well with the lack of analytics with aquanim. I'm off again /ciao
Really your vote goes on a lurker because you cant figure him out? So you go with a policy lynch day one followed by a lurker lynch because there isnt enough info to go on. I guess this is just a pressure vote but still.
Also not sure what cora is doing this game. Im going to fill out my notebook, and be right back with my mocsta and bereft case, and yes I will go over things in my cases other people have already pointed out get over it.
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On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote.
Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were.
Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far.
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On November 23 2013 14:50 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:47 Aquanim wrote:On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. You mean a scum off the Rayn lynch besides Onegu? Lol, Im back. Im the best flip for day 2 because then you can lynch mocsta and bereft in order, followed by up to you, but this post I am scum is so bad.
My question was not meant to state that I specifically think Onegu's scum, simply that if Corazon thought Onegu was scum then the "scum OFF the Rayn lynch" had already been satisfied.
I didn't want to lynch Mocsta and Bereft on Rayn's say-so after he flipped, and I won't want to lynch them on yours Onegu unless you make a very convincing argument.
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On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far.
I don't think that pursuing the time of Onegu's absenses from the thread is a productive use of your time Corazon. Onegu has already said he wasn't available for a lot of day 1.
If you don't believe him, you don't believe it applies for at least some of the time he was gone, or you think we just have to policy lynch him for insufficient contributions, then lynch him. If you don't, don't.
I don't see the point in pressuring Onegu about it other than to piss him off, which gets us nowhere and will only make it harder to read him.
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I think he should hang. He's scum man.
##Vote: Onegu
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Also @Corazon: Why don't you want to lynch Rean? If you think he's town, convince me.
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On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum.
Im going to respond to this one more time, I have a town read on someone who I have started to feel real REAL comfortable in reading, I need to sleep and its almost 3am, I dont think I will be awake for deadline. Rayn my town read has 7 votes on him already and majority, everyone else has 1 or 0 votes on them. If you are town what do you do. EXACTLY what I did you vote your top scum read.
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On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far.
I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already.
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On November 23 2013 15:18 cDgCorazon wrote:
I think he should hang. He's scum man.
##Vote: Onegu
Please let the man build his case on me + bereft before trying to lay down pressure.
Im very curious to see the goods on Bereft.
Please join me with jampidampi.
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On November 23 2013 15:12 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 14:50 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 10:47 Aquanim wrote:On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. You mean a scum off the Rayn lynch besides Onegu? Lol, Im back. Im the best flip for day 2 because then you can lynch mocsta and bereft in order, followed by up to you, but this post I am scum is so bad. My question was not meant to state that I specifically think Onegu's scum, simply that if Corazon thought Onegu was scum then the "scum OFF the Rayn lynch" had already been satisfied. I didn't want to lynch Mocsta and Bereft on Rayn's say-so after he flipped, and I won't want to lynch them on yours Onegu unless you make a very convincing argument.
I will, and I want you to know something when I flip, rayn touched on it already, my reads are normally good but I have trouble getting town to see it.
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On November 23 2013 15:24 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:18 cDgCorazon wrote:
I think he should hang. He's scum man.
##Vote: Onegu Please let the man build his case on me + bereft before trying to lay down pressure. Im very curious to see the goods on Bereft. Please join me with jampidampi.
Tell me why you think Bereft is town. What has Bereft done since the lynch? Nothing besides defending policy lynching and 4 posts after that which do nothing to further the scumhunt... everything Berefft has posted so far has been a response to someone. There is no effort to find scum or explain scum reads.
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On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already.
Then replace out.
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On November 23 2013 12:41 Aquanim wrote:... @Thrawn: Bereft's already replied to your case here. What about his defence do you find unpersuasive?
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On November 23 2013 15:37 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 12:41 Aquanim wrote:... @Thrawn: Bereft's already replied to your case here. What about his defence do you find unpersuasive?
Most of it reaffirms the points I brought up. The rest of it is along the lines of "in hindsight I should have done this" which is not any kind of explanation at all. Anyone can tell you what they should have done in hindsight to avoid telling you why they did what they did.
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Another question for you Thrawn, the same as for Corazon:
Do you think Rean is scum? If not, convince me.
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On November 23 2013 15:34 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already. Then replace out.
Omg cora not everyone can be around for deadlines, with people playing from multiple timezones its just not possible. And for you to be so eliteist like this is just dumb, if I only joined games where I could be around for deadline I couldnt join 5/6 of the games as they are mostly made for US and Europe deadlines.
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On November 23 2013 15:48 Aquanim wrote:
Another question for you Thrawn, the same as for Corazon:
Do you think Rean is scum? If not, convince me.
First I want you to explain why you don't care about the Bereft discussion. You asked me once about Bereft's (him/her? I want to use pronouns) defense, I ignored the question, and you found it important enough to ask me again, so why are you doing nothing with my answer and trying to change the conversation?
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Im going to the mall with my wife, my tablet is fully charged and case incomeing, just letting you know about the delay.
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On November 23 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:34 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already. Then replace out. Omg cora not everyone can be around for deadlines, with people playing from multiple timezones its just not possible. And for you to be so eliteist like this is just dumb, if I only joined games where I could be around for deadline I couldnt join 5/6 of the games as they are mostly made for US and Europe deadlines.
The problem simply isn't that you can't be here for the deadlines, it's the fact that you do absolutely nothing in the 48 hours between deadlines.
If you helped town figure out a lynch with the time you had to play, I would not have a problem with it. The problem I have is that you don't help town get any lynch at all and it just seems like you don't care. Why should we keep you around?
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On November 23 2013 15:19 Aquanim wrote:
Also @Corazon: Why don't you want to lynch Rean? If you think he's town, convince me.
There are scummier people than Rean. I don't have a very strong town read on him, but I feel like other targets are better.
Sorry I forgot to answer this before.
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