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On November 30 2013 22:30 Onegu wrote:
Let me lay down the law here
@ slam BEREFT IS CONFIRMED TOWN. HF doesnt get lynched . Period, if you want to wait until after I flip town to confirm him ok, but to think he might be scum is dumb
@bereft YOU ARE CONFIRMED TOWN a scum slam most likely wouldnt attack you for being scum. With the other telling him dude attacking the confirmed townie is dumb and going to get you lynched
So that leaves sciberia, and he has played a uber town game, he is final scum with cora he deserves to win.
Cora is 100% scum, my points why me and cora cant both be town is stronger than mocstas why HF and cora cant both be scum arguement.
Mocsta might not be, but is like greater than 80% chance he is final scum, with Slam 15%, sciberia 5%
If we dont get endgame post you guys lynch Cora, dont talk about it, go read my case which none of you except maybe sciberia has done, and vote him.
IF I AM FINAL SCUM THERE IS STILL ONE MORE AND THE GAME ISNT OVER, IF I AM TOWN THE GAME IS LIKELY OVER.
With tnis in mind look who is looking for last scum and look at who is lazy. That would be cora and mocsta, less mocsta as he has done a little bit, but its mostly been onegu is scum here is why, not this person is scum with onegu.
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Lol.. if you are town you would read HolyFlare filter.
You would realise how much we genuinely argue with other and you would realise I am confirmed town.
I am 0% of being scum.. but this is the same convo I had with Holyflare.. de ja vu 'ey.
Corazon holds the key here unfortunately. Based on your reaction to Sciberbia, I am pretty happy with your lynch over Slam though.
Then there is the same slip as HF ==> Assuming the game will carry on post-flip.
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Wifom, and HF likes to bus.
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On December 01 2013 23:32 Onegu wrote:
Wifom, and HF likes to bus.
LOL.. theres a difference between bus and meaningfully argue.
That you now rescind back to your cheap one liners ain't looking good.
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##Vote: Onegu
i retract this bit:
On December 01 2013 20:53 Bereft wrote:
cora, I'd like to hear your mocsta case. because I've been letting you skate by on the basis that you've been genuinely hurt and feeling bullied by the no onegu lynch. but if you're scum that's a cheap way to play it. I'm now considering the possibility that it could be feigned.
based on HF's and cora's interactions, cora is basically confirmed town.
onegu, are you still standing by your "cora is 100% scum"?
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I was gonna Unvote but now we are consolidating...
Cora, old Mocsta looks bad enough but so do I. I dislike looking at people from the perspective that they are scum, it's like purposely getting confirmation bias.
Couple that with new Mocsta and I say, don't. I think he is on the right track, I also admit I was generally ignoring sciberia as established town (much like ignoring bereft; I mean not filter diving looking for scum). May be time to do that!
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Slam, don't think you've done any scum hunting since you joined the thread.
who are your picks for the final 2 scum and why?
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mocsta, i don't think sciberbia can be scum.
maybe i'll look like an idiot post-game, but his filter reads pretty spotless to me. the only thing i've disagreed with him on the entire game is his JJD read. but having never played with JJD before, i can see where he's coming from.
right now i'm comfortable bucketing it like the following:
town with little to no doubt: {cora, sciberbia}
town with a smidgen of doubt: {mocsta}
will be a sad panda if town: {onegu, slam}
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On December 02 2013 00:26 Bereft wrote:##Vote: Onegui retract this bit: Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 20:53 Bereft wrote:
cora, I'd like to hear your mocsta case. because I've been letting you skate by on the basis that you've been genuinely hurt and feeling bullied by the no onegu lynch. but if you're scum that's a cheap way to play it. I'm now considering the possibility that it could be feigned.
based on HF's and cora's interactions, cora is basically confirmed town. onegu, are you still standing by your "cora is 100% scum"?
Yes, I am saying I pegged the scum team, they didnt want something crazy to happen if they missed thier shot and wifo,ed into bussing. Also the HF cora interactions gave them both a way to back off of the fake claims.
Basicly do you thin it is possible both me and cora could be town. Now if by some chance i flip green + Show Spoiler + do you still maintain cora has to be town based on HF interactions?
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On December 02 2013 00:45 Bereft wrote:
mocsta, i don't think sciberbia can be scum.
maybe i'll look like an idiot post-game, but his filter reads pretty spotless to me. the only thing i've disagreed with him on the entire game is his JJD read. but having never played with JJD before, i can see where he's coming from.
right now i'm comfortable bucketing it like the following:
town with little to no doubt: {cora, sciberbia}
town with a smidgen of doubt: {mocsta}
will be a sad panda if town: {onegu, slam}
Going to find me some sad panda pics for you.
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On December 01 2013 04:31 sciberbia wrote:
So the most pressing question is: should we lynch Onegu today? He has 3 votes if I'm not mistaken.
The sad thing is that unless we are going to lynch Cora instead I'm not sure we have much choice. There are 4 townies alive right now, and we need 4 votes to lynch. So if Cora is town, even assuming that we could get the other 3 townies on a scum, we wouldn't end up getting them lynched. If we NL, then scum just delays and we are in a strictly worse position tomorrow.
I'm 100% sure that I'd rather lynch Onegu than Cora, but I'm really not too confident that Onegu is a better lynch than Slam. Onegu has been trying really hard recently, and I dunno it just makes me feel uneasy. On the other hand, Rean's slot was fairly scummy and Alakaslam is hard to read/understand.
@Bereft
If it was all up to you, who would you rather lynch today between Slam and Onegu?
in response to this, i think an onegu lynch is the right move.
i agree with mocsta's post here:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 28 2013 15:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 14:22 Onegu wrote:Can people read my cora case please?+ Show Spoiler [Boring!!!!!] +Cora plays very anti town, doesnt have a town PoV, contridicts himself multiple times. His day one lynch target 24hours in is aqua, his case is 2 points, first aqua goes from null to scum on cora with no reason, 2 aquas case and points on rean is wrong. Aqua responds, cora says his reason on point 1 is smoke and mirrors, and accepts aquas points on rean are legit. So cora has 2 points against aqua and one is completely shattered and cora accepts it is. So cora unvotes amd moves on. WRONG!!! Cora says nothing has changed and aqua should still be lynched. Rayn and mocsta shit start, aqua still who he wants to lynch. But does he push his lynch, other than saying he still wants to lynch him, he doesnt mention him. Doesnt say hey guys really aqua is scum check out my case, or bring up new points at all. His first case is BS, its scum attemptimg to look active. - In my head I was thinking: I'm bored, how about I give Onegu some courtesy and give it a full read over. - Then I realised "WOW!" Onegu has an 11page filter, maybe... *just* MAYBE he could be town. BAH-BAM !!!!! - Then I realised something else. You see Onegu: Its impossible for Holyflare and Corazon to be on a scum team. (1) Thread sentiment wanted an Onegu lynch (2) Corazon wanted a Onegu lynch (3) Its MYLO (4) Corazon fake-claimed to get you lynched (5) Holyflare Opposed the lynch as hard as he could.. even getting Corazon to admit the fake-claim Whats the problem?The problem is that scum want to win. As quickly as possible.Give that it is MYLO, if Corazon was scum -- there was no need for Holyflare to battle him, put pressure on him.. heck even get Corazon to admit fake-claiming. Further, if Corazon was *WRONG* about Onegu... Holy woulda just sat by idly and let scum mislynch to finish the game. Onegu, we already knew you were scum before all this. Now its proven and irrefutableYou *will* be lynched tomorrow. The only decision this town has to make is between Chezinu and Alakaslam. Considering Chezinu flipflopped his vote, and Slam stayed true. Nothing has changed. Holyflare, Onegu, ChezinuIts just a matter of waiting out the required cycles. *TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK*
HF writes this when we're full steam ahead on onegu (post-cora's "night check"):
On November 26 2013 17:19 Holyflare wrote:
You people are silly. Guy claims cop AND who he is checking way before night is over and you expect him to live?? Then you say I'm scum?
If i was scum I'd know i wasn't doc and he'd be checking onegu who you all seem to think is scum too, if that were the case why would i let a cop check go off on my team instead of just killing the guy?
If he dies I look bad, so what? I've been in the shadows the entire time, watching, getting reads on who to save and then someone claims cop?? Thanks for taking away my heal from someone that needed it. I don't believe he is cop at all.
Cora being alive is a complete farce, I'm pretty sure his cop claim is very very fake because he most definitely would have checked me night 1 or 2 when I claimed over a guy who is actually posting because as he has stated, we don't know what these lurkers alignments are and we will never know, yet, he doesn't check any of our alignments at all. Just onegu who was under the most suspicion to get lynched today anyway?
Couple this with the fact that mocsta was finding ways for me to be scum with NK scenarios OUT LOUD IN THE THREAD, yeh that makes total sense. If he was town he could post this stuff after the night kills to get some solid reasoning but he posts them before the night was over yesterday. If you are town, what were you thinking? Scum is clearly going to go for the one that makes people look the most scummy.
Tl:dr
Cora's claim is fake, misleading town into a most probably towny lynch on onegu.
i think this post is pretty damning because he writes it at a time when he didn't think he'd be on the chopping block.
HF realized cora's cop claim was fake (probably because the "town" in (town investigator) didn't match the scum team's own fake cop claim). if onegu was town, there was absolutely no reason for him to defend onegu, because if we mislynched onegu, scum would have won. and if somehow the game lasted another day, corazon would be in hot water for his fake claim and scum would be set up to push another mislynch. so really there was zero incentive for HF to prove cora's claim was fake.
i also don't put much stake in onegu's pages of written notes (sorry onegu  ). to be quite frank, i think i'd be more inclined to take notes as scum than town to keep track of all my running lies!!
as mocsta has said, BAM BAM!! i think we are over thinking this one. what we need to focus on is if we are sure mocsta is town and slam is the last scum.
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Onegu, if you weren't scum I would call you a hypocrite. You spent 3 days promising a case on me before making it. There is this thing called sleep that is really lovely.
Mocsta case coming soon, 1-2 hours. I have to make it look all pretty for y'all.
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On December 02 2013 01:22 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 00:26 Bereft wrote:##Vote: Onegui retract this bit: On December 01 2013 20:53 Bereft wrote:
cora, I'd like to hear your mocsta case. because I've been letting you skate by on the basis that you've been genuinely hurt and feeling bullied by the no onegu lynch. but if you're scum that's a cheap way to play it. I'm now considering the possibility that it could be feigned.
based on HF's and cora's interactions, cora is basically confirmed town. onegu, are you still standing by your "cora is 100% scum"? Yes, I am saying I pegged the scum team, they didnt want something crazy to happen if they missed thier shot and wifo,ed into bussing. Also the HF cora interactions gave them both a way to back off of the fake claims. Basicly do you thin it is possible both me and cora could be town. Now if by some chance i flip green + Show Spoiler + do you still maintain cora has to be town based on HF interactions?
even if by some horrible twist of fate you flip VT, i will stand by cora being town until the day i die (game life, not real life).
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On December 02 2013 01:53 cDgCorazon wrote:
Onegu, if you weren't scum I would call you a hypocrite. You spent 3 days promising a case on me before making it. There is this thing called sleep that is really lovely.
Mocsta case coming soon, 1-2 hours. I have to make it look all pretty for y'all.
I got it in before deadline, you are waiting until after deadline. If you make it before deadline like you say you are then great.
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On December 02 2013 02:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 01:53 cDgCorazon wrote:
Onegu, if you weren't scum I would call you a hypocrite. You spent 3 days promising a case on me before making it. There is this thing called sleep that is really lovely.
Mocsta case coming soon, 1-2 hours. I have to make it look all pretty for y'all. I got it in before deadline, you are waiting until after deadline. If you make it before deadline like you say you are then great.
The deadline is in 10 hours. Can you please give up, scum? You're looking really pathetic.
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On December 02 2013 02:00 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 01:22 Onegu wrote:On December 02 2013 00:26 Bereft wrote:##Vote: Onegui retract this bit: On December 01 2013 20:53 Bereft wrote:
cora, I'd like to hear your mocsta case. because I've been letting you skate by on the basis that you've been genuinely hurt and feeling bullied by the no onegu lynch. but if you're scum that's a cheap way to play it. I'm now considering the possibility that it could be feigned.
based on HF's and cora's interactions, cora is basically confirmed town. onegu, are you still standing by your "cora is 100% scum"? Yes, I am saying I pegged the scum team, they didnt want something crazy to happen if they missed thier shot and wifo,ed into bussing. Also the HF cora interactions gave them both a way to back off of the fake claims. Basicly do you thin it is possible both me and cora could be town. Now if by some chance i flip green + Show Spoiler + do you still maintain cora has to be town based on HF interactions? even if by some horrible twist of fate you flip VT, i will stand by cora being town until the day i die (game life, not real life).
I will get double sad pandas for you. But 4rlz when I flip VT go and look at the actions around the time cora claimed cop. You are confirmed town. That leaves slam, mocsta, and scib. If cora town 2/3 of them would habe to not be around to shoot the cop. Who if was actuall cop would report a green check on me, you think scum would let that happen? Nope cora is scum.
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On December 02 2013 02:35 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 02:31 Onegu wrote:On December 02 2013 01:53 cDgCorazon wrote:
Onegu, if you weren't scum I would call you a hypocrite. You spent 3 days promising a case on me before making it. There is this thing called sleep that is really lovely.
Mocsta case coming soon, 1-2 hours. I have to make it look all pretty for y'all. I got it in before deadline, you are waiting until after deadline. If you make it before deadline like you say you are then great. The deadline is in 10 hours. Can you please give up, scum? You're looking really pathetic.
Ggnore.
Im out no more posts until post game. This game has been very fustrateing, like I put a bunch of effort into this game as evidenced by my notes, and I understand people thinking I am scum and not wanting to listen to me, but saying even after I flip they wont take a look. And I never let people get under my skin but cora has done it this game, I guess gratz to him...
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+ Show Spoiler [Mocsta] +On December 01 2013 21:04 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote:Basic Vote Count DAY 1 cDgCorazon (0): thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Onegu, thrawn2112, sciberbia, HolyflareAquanim (2): thrawn2112. Mocsta, jampidampi, cDgCorazon, Rean, raynpelikoneetRean (0): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, raynpelikoneet, Bereft, Mocsta, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneetOnegu (0): sciberbia, thrawn2112Bereft (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneetMocsta (0): raynpelikoneetraynpelikoneet (8): thrawn2112, Mocsta. Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Bereft, raynpelikoneet, cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112, Holyflare, sciberbia, raynpelikoneetjampidampi (0): raynpelikoneetMocsta (1): Onegu, raynpelikoneetJarJarDrinks (0): raynpelikoneetNo-Lynch (1): cDgCorazon What stands out to me here is:(1) Rean/Slam: Useless vote; but was AFK the 2nd half of the cycle (2) Sciberbia: Helped to consolidate on Rayn; votes Corazon but is a dead vote as Rayn already had 6 votes. His votes are consistent with his cases though. (3) Holyflare: Dead vote on Corazon is odd. Need to check if Corazon chucked the shits at this vote (4) Onegu: Dead votes
Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 12:00 ObviousOne wrote:Basic Vote Count DAY 2 Bereft (0): thrawn2112Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, MocstaChezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta, thrawn2112Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, ChezinuJarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam, Mocsta sciberbia (0): Mocsta, ChezinuHolyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, ChezinuMocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, HolyflareThrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon What stands out to me here is:(1) Slam jumping onto JJD at a very opportune moment. (2) Onegu again throwing his vote away again (but I know I am town) (3) Holyflare throwing his vote away again.. this makes Corazon look slightly better due to the Day1 vote (4) Scibs with only 1 vote. Need to re-check his position on Onegu/Corazon (his Day 1 votes)
Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 11:51 ObviousOne wrote:Basic Vote Count DAY 3 Onegu (1): Mocsta, cDgCorazon, Bereft, Alakaslam, Mocsta, sciberbia, Holyflare, cDgCorazon Mocsta (0): Mocsta, Chezinu, cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, HolyflarecDgCorazon (0): Onegu, Holyflare, cDgCorazon, HolyflareHolyflare (7): Bereft, sciberbia, Holyflare, Mocsta, Alakaslam, Chezinu, Onegu, Holyflare, Onegu sciberbia (0): cDgCorazonChezinu (0): cDgCorazonBereft (0): cDgCorazon, Holyflare, Onegu What stands out to me here is:(1) Corazon jumps around as much as Holyflare. From memory this was him chucking the shits. The key point is that he had a dead vote. (2) Onegu doesn't vote me for the first time. Instead follows Holy onto Bereft. His vote on Holy was a hammer in the sense it prevented HF from jumping ship. (3) Slam is in the middle of both Onegu and HF.
(1) Without a re-read, Scibs Day2 vote looks bad as he came on board before consolidation time. The firm vote on HF isn't worth any points as Bereft essentially nailed HF forcing consolidation. (2) Slams voting looks really bad. His play is quite far removed and he shows none of urge to improve his play like in other recent games. Reans filter also reads on the verge of scummy/useless town. (3) Corazon's dead vote on Onegu is a *BOLD* play Day3. Its possible to argue he was asleep - hence was never present to consolidate; but, jeez this looks really bad next cycle and considering HF went down early-ish into the cycle, Im tending to think this is too dumb a move to perform as scum. (4) Onegu and HF have some voting synergism. As I said before, I find it unlikely that scum would follow suit so closely, but its not impossible.
I think the best lynch for this cycle based on VCA is Slam (who I thought one of Chez/Slam was scum anyways).Then need to consider one of {Onegu, Sciberbia, Corazon}. To which, I am still probably leaning Onegu -- His sudden retrenchment of scum read on me seems unusual even given MYLO. Going to read HF now. ##Unvote
##Vote: Alakaslam
@Mocsta
Why do you keep drawing attention to 'dead votes' after every vote count? I don't understand your conclusions in this VCA. Seeing as there was really only one main wagon at the end of every day, you can call any vote not on the lynchee a dead vote. Is there anything necessarily scummy about that?
Furthermore, I really don't understand how you can think this
On December 01 2013 21:04 Mocsta wrote:
Scibs Day2 vote looks bad as he came on board before consolidation time.
You are essentially calling me scum because I was wrong. But how can you think that given the two immediately subsequent votes were Aquanim and yourself (who is also, assuming you are town, confirmed town to you).
+ Show Spoiler [start of JJD wagon] +On November 24 2013 17:28 sciberbia wrote:Lurking through the rayn lynch is by far the single scummiest thing anybody has done this entire game. I can't even imagine myself, as town, reading the 100 posts between pages 50 and 55 (the hour leading up to the lynch), and not posting my thoughts. That's crunch time. That's when the game is won or lost. It's when all the drama happens. The lynch was in question and everybody else online was vehemently discussing it, but JJD was just sitting there passing the time. On the other hand, I can easily see scum doing it. Rayn looked likely to be lynched so scum probably didn't feel much pressure. There's no reason for scum to be posting with a townie lynch coming down the pipeline. Furthermore here JJD expresses his opinion that Onegu is town and HF is scum, but says he will reread. + Show Spoiler +On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.
He never posts the results of this reread. He hasn't been defending Onegu today even though he's looked like the most likely lynch candidate. He hasn't been pushing an HF lynch either. As thrawn says he's too content doing nothing. Combined with what aquanim and thrawn have posted, this feels really right to me. Better than every other lynch.
##Vote: JarJarDrinks On November 24 2013 17:40 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 17:28 sciberbia wrote:
Lurking through the rayn lynch is by far the single scummiest thing anybody has done this entire game. I can't even imagine myself, as town, reading the 100 posts between pages 50 and 55 (the hour leading up to the lynch), and not posting my thoughts. That's crunch time. That's when the game is won or lost. It's when all the drama happens. The lynch was in question and everybody else online was vehemently discussing it, but JJD was just sitting there passing the time.
On the other hand, I can easily see scum doing it. Rayn looked likely to be lynched so scum probably didn't feel much pressure. There's no reason for scum to be posting with a townie lynch coming down the pipeline.
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Dunno why it didn't quite reach my brain until this repetition, but yeah this is damning. ##Vote: JarJarDrinks On November 24 2013 18:07 Mocsta wrote:
##vote: jarjardrinks*
Lets get a majority people !!!
So what exactly is it about my vote that is scummy?
+ Show Spoiler +On December 01 2013 21:04 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 12:00 ObviousOne wrote:Basic Vote Count DAY 2 Bereft (0): thrawn2112Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, MocstaChezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta, thrawn2112Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, ChezinuJarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam, Mocsta sciberbia (0): Mocsta, ChezinuHolyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, ChezinuMocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, HolyflareThrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon What stands out to me here is:(1) Slam jumping onto JJD at a very opportune moment.
And here Slam is scummy for being on the 'consolidating portion' of the JJD wagon, right next to yourself.
Basically I don't understand this VCA at all and would like you to expand on your thought process so I can see how genuine you're being. You point out pople for starting a wagon, consolodating on a wagon, and leaving their votes 'dead', but call all 3 types of voting behavior scummy. What would you consider to be townie voting behavior?
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On December 02 2013 02:35 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 02:00 Bereft wrote:On December 02 2013 01:22 Onegu wrote:On December 02 2013 00:26 Bereft wrote:##Vote: Onegui retract this bit: On December 01 2013 20:53 Bereft wrote:
cora, I'd like to hear your mocsta case. because I've been letting you skate by on the basis that you've been genuinely hurt and feeling bullied by the no onegu lynch. but if you're scum that's a cheap way to play it. I'm now considering the possibility that it could be feigned.
based on HF's and cora's interactions, cora is basically confirmed town. onegu, are you still standing by your "cora is 100% scum"? Yes, I am saying I pegged the scum team, they didnt want something crazy to happen if they missed thier shot and wifo,ed into bussing. Also the HF cora interactions gave them both a way to back off of the fake claims. Basicly do you thin it is possible both me and cora could be town. Now if by some chance i flip green + Show Spoiler + do you still maintain cora has to be town based on HF interactions? even if by some horrible twist of fate you flip VT, i will stand by cora being town until the day i die (game life, not real life). I will get double sad pandas for you. But 4rlz when I flip VT go and look at the actions around the time cora claimed cop. You are confirmed town. That leaves slam, mocsta, and scib. If cora town 2/3 of them would habe to not be around to shoot the cop. Who if was actuall cop would report a green check on me, you think scum would let that happen? Nope cora is scum.
it's weird that scum didn't shoot cora. but that doesn't actually enhance your case.
you, HF, slam, chezinu, scib were all afk for the deadline. by process of elimination, this would leave you and slam.
in any case, i'm not going to question a strong town read by mere virtue of the fact that they are alive. the scummiest thing about sciberbia right now is that he's not dead, and there's too much to take into account as to what mafia was thinking to be suspicious JUST based on that.
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On December 01 2013 20:53 Bereft wrote:
I can't think of a reason why a mocsta scum team would make this move. all it does is cast doubt on the town read almost the entire thread has on him. the only pairing where this move would make sense is if it were a moc/scib scum team. which is not impossible but pretty much gg if so.
@Bereft
What if Mocsta/Onegu is scumteam and Mocsta figured that he would be able to get a mislynch on Slam, but was worried for whatever reason that Chez was blue and would be able to confirm Slam as town or Mocsta as scum? Seems very plausible to me. This is why I think the Chez kill points towards Moc being scum (or possibly even you/cora) over both Slam and Onegu.
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