TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die

On November 16 2013 02:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:


You also haven't been very useful yet this game. Who do you think is scum?

On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.

On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

How about you mig. Who do you think is mafia and who do you think is town?

On November 16 2013 13:00 Risen wrote:
Or he could reveal it knowing LM is town and as you can see in thread people agreed that it was scummy to mason without posting in thread so maybe the plan was to push an LM mislynch? Why can't you even see the potential for that? Are you scum?

On November 16 2013 13:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Mig why didn't you have any interest in running for mayor?

On November 16 2013 23:16 Mocsta wrote:
Finally caught up guys. Been a busy day.

But got good laughs from Migs spreadsheet post at least.
I thought this guy was meant to be a vet? How the fuck am I scum read lol.

On November 16 2013 23:25 Spaghetticus wrote:

READ MY CASE.

On November 16 2013 23:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Are you confident in that BC is town? If so, what specifically changed your mind from null?

On November 17 2013 00:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

He only really pressured Storr for a little bit though in his initial post with Grack. After that it was a back and forth where neither side were really accomplishing anything. No stronger reads or convincing of anyone that the other was town. BC also stopped pressing for either of them to get lynched in favour of discrediting Yamato and pushing for ss as mayor. He doesn't seem to have conviction in his cases.

On November 17 2013 00:39 Mocsta wrote:
This is an absolute joke.

Why are you intentionally trying to manipulate this situation into your favour.

On November 17 2013 01:11 Mocsta wrote:
Now you are making yourself look stupid.

On November 17 2013 01:27 Mocsta wrote:
This is absolutely pointless now and shitting the thread.

I made a new case on Storrzerg dipshit.

On November 19 2013 04:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mig, is that just an errant thought or do you think VE is scummy for it? Look how many of his initial scumlist flipped town from this post:

The NK's make VE look so bad, there is no way hes scum to me.

On November 19 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Also what do you think of supersoft? He waffled on some bullshit balancecrap earlier on today, then said he'll look into BH and disappeared.

On November 21 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mig thoughts on austin, supersoft and LM?

On November 21 2013 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
hey mig I was wonderin' why you randomly locked your notes, any particular reason

On November 21 2013 13:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
His claim doesn't make more sense as either alignment as we already have had 1 2 shot vig flip for both sides, so that's not really an issue right now

On November 21 2013 13:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


if you think town should have information why did you unshare your read spreadsheet yesterday?

On November 22 2013 06:13 Risen wrote:
What did BH do that was worthy of policy lynch? I must have missed it.

On November 19 2013 18:05 Risen wrote:

And some people don't like your play... fairly good reads imo.

On November 21 2013 10:26 Risen wrote:
Probably would have been a more useful shot tbh. No idea what possessed you to shoot Mattchew of all people. Pretty scummy shot.

On November 22 2013 09:11 Risen wrote:
For what?

On November 22 2013 09:15 Risen wrote:

Two out of 4 aligned with me = fairly good. Why are you trying to twist things? I'm pretty clearly town.

On November 22 2013 09:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

which game?

On November 16 2013 02:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

BC is of the old school generation where you would post by post analysis. Sadly that means you will get a breakdown of virtually every post the guy has made when I make a case. It may make it long and wordy but at least you get my thought process in full.

On November 23 2013 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
Why isn't SS defending Pandain if he already forged his mason log to do it and he's so active in a qt with mig?

On November 19 2013 18:05 Risen wrote:

And some people don't like your play... fairly good reads imo.

On November 21 2013 10:26 Risen wrote:
Probably would have been a more useful shot tbh. No idea what possessed you to shoot Mattchew of all people. Pretty scummy shot.

On November 23 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Mig I'm not going to lie I'm feeling uncomfortable lynching BC and I think you're going to end up being wrong. But I'll trust you if you're sure

On November 23 2013 07:08 thrawn2112 wrote:


it's a combination of losing interest and special tactics

Give me a bit to catch up.

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goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed

On November 23 2013 10:06 Coagulation wrote:


you disappoint me.

On November 17 2013 07:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Hiro
He has 0 content to his posts, insanely inactive, and i know hes capable of doing more than he is. Its possible hes just busy, but ive seen the guy lurk as red before and skate by on minimum posting standards as such I am keeping him to red until he proves otherwise

On November 23 2013 07:08 thrawn2112 wrote:


it's a combination of losing interest and special tactics

On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed

On November 23 2013 16:27 Coagulation wrote:
Man I just read up a ton on butt monkeys.

On November 15 2013 22:57 Mocsta wrote:

He said early game he might not be able to devote full attention to this game.

Having said that: LoneMeows reasoning detailed above, I suppose is townie by virtue of: claims that are so far-fetched/stupid are usually from town (i.e. scum try to have claims that are *too* perfect)

In the end, I hope LoneMeow is active this game, I dont want to be put in that mislynch scenario again... *sigh*
So, if worse comes to worse with lone, then considering yam is a fairly strong town read for me currently. I would probably defer to his judgement based on the mason logs.

On November 15 2013 23:17 Mocsta wrote:

detailed precise claims are usually scum.
and poorly executred!, unbelievable ones are normally town.

regardless, lone is not a heavy contributor and this pressure is just going to alienate an already low content poster.

back off.

On November 23 2013 09:30 Risen wrote:

Yeah I can dig it. Really digging that post by BC, too. Last minute shenans onto Oats from BC go?

##unvote: raynpelikoneet
##vote: Oatsmaster

Deal with rayn tomorrow. That martyr post is godawful especially with Pandain above him. I really want one of ss/panda and oats flipping today. Last second train lets do this people.

On November 23 2013 09:57 Risen wrote:
Oh BC please be town. PLEASE BE TOWN DOUBLE TOWN LYNCH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

On November 23 2013 09:59 Risen wrote:
AUSTIN LAST SECOND VOTE ON RAYN THAT DOESNT MATTER SCUMMY AS FUCK

On November 23 2013 10:00 Risen wrote:
NOOOOOO FUCK YOU GUYS THE DOUBLE TOWN LYNCH OF JUSTICE

On November 23 2013 10:51 Risen wrote:
The circlejerk going on in this thread right now is strong. Too much scum touching between mig, VA, Grack. How do I know there's scum amongst these folks? Because they're not afraid of giving out their fucking town reads at NIGHT

On November 23 2013 11:44 Risen wrote:
Your lack of understanding surrounding the BC last second swap or even consideration of the shenans means to me you are pushing an agenda. So yeah, I think you're scum.

On November 25 2013 01:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
that's incredibly biased if you want to play the role game with me. It is obvious im the mad hatter yet austin is pushing me incessantly. if you can explain why he is not playing pro-town then im all ears. He just last second voted together with BC to kill rayn.

On November 25 2013 04:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
For me it's about looking at early game play as that is when people do not try to be tricky as there is no perspective on the game yet. If you go back and look at BC's early reads I am pretty confident that every single one of those reads is horseshit. I don't think he put hiro randomly on there to fuck with us. Pretty sure those are all genuinely incorrect reads. There is also discussion between thrawn and BC as you pointed out. There is some other stuff but im not going to go into too much detail at this point in the game. Suffice to say I have reasons as well for why Risen is town but not as strong.

On November 25 2013 08:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
It's this thing I sometimes try to do in games... go read the game where I claimed miller in a setup with non-self aware millers, or the game where I figured out keirathi was scum because I went afk during D1 and saw that he was calling me scum for the sole reason of my being afk. It's a lot easier for me to analyze people's scum reads when they are scum reading me, and I do not mind the pressure of looking scummy.

yeah it's probably irresponsible.. but it's never actually caused any harm and it often helps my reads

On November 26 2013 02:55 Risen wrote:

Pandain and HF have appeared scummy to me for a long while now but I can't remember why

On November 25 2013 08:27 Risen wrote:
1) at the end of the day I will post actual cases on my top reads. Doing so sooner means you guys might move off of me.

On November 26 2013 02:55 Risen wrote:
^sound logic
I present the TIERS OF SCUM
Onegu, Oats
VA, Thrawn
Austin, HF
LM, Alakaslam
Pandain, Koshi

I'll make cases on Oats and Onegu.

On November 26 2013 04:28 Risen wrote:
Mig also has a point about how I should be working on the cases and I haven't been. I'll get on that.

On November 28 2013 10:54 Onegu wrote:



I got a PM from marv. Basicly I didnt have internet up until ~12 hours ago and spent what time I wasnt with my kids, or getting a little sleep on the game that is in mylo with deadline in a hour, thinking I still had 24 hours to catch up on this game.

On November 29 2013 01:43 Risen wrote:

P.S. I was lying about all my reads. Nothing I've written is actually true, I was just spamming whatever I thought would help me live.