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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 00:04 GMT
#1210
Vayne, what merit does BH lynching you have?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 01:18 GMT
#1251
On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?

Also what do you think of Skan?

Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red.

He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either.


You should find better townreads then.


or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones.


Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll.


Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded.


This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable.

I can't agree with this




How about you look at the other points I made on grack, how about you take a gander at the town grack filter I provided and compare to this game. All you are doing currently is repeating shit others have said and defending yourself. How about some real contribution since youve been gone so long and plan to be absent a ton in the near future
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 01:26 GMT
#1256
On November 16 2013 10:25 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 10:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?

Also what do you think of Skan?

Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red.

He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either.


You should find better townreads then.


or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones.


Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll.


Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded.


This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable.

I can't agree with this




How about you look at the other points I made on grack, how about you take a gander at the town grack filter I provided and compare to this game. All you are doing currently is repeating shit others have said and defending yourself. How about some real contribution since youve been gone so long and plan to be absent a ton in the near future



YES LETS BE ANGRY BECAUSE STORR IS DEFENDING HIMSELF AND SHITTING UP YOUR SHITTY READS LOLOLOL

idk if you have made any other points yet, still catching up


you haven't provided any new content since you returned. No real reads, only defending yourself. Seems legit for me to harass you given how much you've been posting the last few pages.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 02:37 GMT
#1301
On November 16 2013 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 05:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Terrible mayor post from VE. Vote for the Tomato. That guy is going to fry the bloody pie.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:29 StorrZerg wrote: personally i am fine with a BC lynch since i feel he has not been looking for scum, just low hanging fruit.

Why does e'erybody always wanna kill the BC?


im not sure. Every game day 1 im always a popular shoot with fire.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 02:40 GMT
#1304
Possibly? I would say i am more or less direct. I don't care if it comes off like im a massive dick bag or not.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:01 GMT
#1313
On November 16 2013 11:59 Risen wrote:
Storr won't vote for you b/c he's afraid you're going to lynch him.


not sure why. Hes not my #1 read. I think hes scum but at least hes put in a tiny bit of effort. Not much, but some at least.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:23 GMT
#1327
Anyone else finding it odd that its taken bh more than 3 hours to catch up and post something?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:24 GMT
#1329
On November 16 2013 12:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On November 16 2013 12:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Anyone else finding it odd that its taken bh more than 3 hours to catch up and post something?

Unless I mistook his attitude, because his platform is one of lynching randomly, he's not prioritizing reading the thread and getting back with us.



doesn't seem like a good excuse to lurk for no reason all game
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:32 GMT
#1337
On November 16 2013 12:28 Mig wrote:
BC why did you vote super as mayor and why not run for mayor yourself?


because I believe that ve/ss/myself should be elected. I also like the idea of voting for someone else to get in if i can. One doesnt need to vote for themself
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#1341
On November 16 2013 12:33 Mig wrote:
If you know you are town and you believe you should be elected why wouldn't you push for yourself? You have made no case for why you should be elected at all.

Can you explain exactly why ss is a good candidate to be elected?


If im going to be elected its going to be on my contributions not my bloody telling of people they should do it cause im a super vet.

I have said I want to be elected and have subsequently done what I believe coincides with that want.

I think SS is town and I think VE is town. If i'm not getting votes I should make sure the two people who should be there get to be there.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:39 GMT
#1344
Why? Hes currently being elected. No ones voting for me, whereas people are voting for VE. Given that hes in the lead why would I not get the next one in?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:43 GMT
#1348
On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself


True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:46 GMT
#1350
On November 16 2013 12:42 Mig wrote:
I just find it hard to believe you are ever going to end up mayor if you don't even vote for yourself. Seems kind of like a half hearted attempt to me.

Why do you think SS is town? More so than VE? I really don't get the SS = town, at least compared to VE/yamato who both seem more likely to be town to me.


let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.

I like ss's posts and they remind me strongly of every game ive seen him as town. VE feels exactly like a town VE to me. Both are playing in ways I associate with solid town play and play I expect out of them.

How about you mig. Who do you think is mafia and who do you think is town?

In regards to me ending up mayor. I want it yes, but if two people I trust to not be mafia end up getting those slots, then its almost as good as me being there. I don't care if I die provided my death gets us closer to a town victory. If that means I eat a bullet slightly earlier then so be it.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#1354
On November 16 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself


True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with?


I'm just trying to understand the dichotomy here because supersoft has served a mafia agenda until recently where he has cooled it off a bit. If I had to choose between myself and SS I would easily give myself the spot.


I completely disagree. Supersoft to me has done absolutely everything to further town goals. Also I would never vote for you over him.

If people were more inclined to vote me would I vote for myself? Likely but given that no one seems to want to (look how many people have already said they don't like me for a role) why would I not then put my stance behind someone else who should get it. If somehow ve is at a loss to get a slot ill swap my vote, but currently that seems incredibly unlikely
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#1363
On November 16 2013 12:54 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.


Combination of a few things, 1) tone of posts (doesn't seem worried about being viewed as town) 2) claiming that he will use the pardoner role if given it, since most people view pardoner as pro mafia I don't think many mafia would be willing to risk saying they will use it in public. 3) Revealing LM as mason. I think it was really stupid to do so but there isn't any reason for mafia to reveal this at all. Just seems like a dumb town move.



Hes been incredibly inactive and his tone of voice makes him seem like a dick, its a null tell
Claiming he will use the pardoner role if given it is extremely anti town. No single player should ever use that role period barring some weird last minute mystery reason
and outing a potential blue role before giving the player a chance to justify their actions is incredibly shady. You don't see a reason to reveal it? it means if LM eats a bullet yamato can claim "oops i fucked up" and be absolved of responsibility for the dead power role.

Nothing you mentioned is anything aside from a null tell. A town or mafia member can spout that shit.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:58 GMT
#1364
On November 16 2013 12:56 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

How about you mig. Who do you think is mafia and who do you think is town?


In my current notes I have Hopeless/grack/mocsta/storr/rayne under reds. I feel most confident in hopeless/grack (as I mentioned in a previous post).


You really haven't given any strong reasons as to why you think any of these guys are red. You mentioned them, but not in any real detail.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 04:03 GMT
#1374
On November 16 2013 12:59 yamato77 wrote:
BC, arguing people off a townread of me is extremely unproductive.

If you want any credibility, I want follow up reads on Storr since he's been more active since you last accused him.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:23 Mig wrote:
supersoft who do you think is scum/plan to lynch if you become mayor? I mainly just see you declaring how obvious it is you are town repeatedly without actually strongly accusing/building a real case against anyone.


This is also something I want to know, because super hasn't done jack shit this game at all.



Your view of unproductive is different than mine. I am getting answers i require to get a solid read on a player. Surprisingly knowing their thought process is required for that.

Also storr never did anything substantial on his return to sway my belief of his alignment. He didn't provide any big new pieces of information. He didn't really do anything except defend himself. Fact of the matter is he looks worse than he did before. He and grack are still my two top reads for scum. That hasn't changed and neither has done anything to change that belief.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 04:17 GMT
#1386
On November 16 2013 13:07 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:54 Mig wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.


Combination of a few things, 1) tone of posts (doesn't seem worried about being viewed as town) 2) claiming that he will use the pardoner role if given it, since most people view pardoner as pro mafia I don't think many mafia would be willing to risk saying they will use it in public. 3) Revealing LM as mason. I think it was really stupid to do so but there isn't any reason for mafia to reveal this at all. Just seems like a dumb town move.



Hes been incredibly inactive and his tone of voice makes him seem like a dick, its a null tell
Claiming he will use the pardoner role if given it is extremely anti town. No single player should ever use that role period barring some weird last minute mystery reason
and outing a potential blue role before giving the player a chance to justify their actions is incredibly shady. You don't see a reason to reveal it? it means if LM eats a bullet yamato can claim "oops i fucked up" and be absolved of responsibility for the dead power role.

Nothing you mentioned is anything aside from a null tell. A town or mafia member can spout that shit.

"incredibly inactive"

more posts than you, more time in the thread

holy fuck you're just spouting shit

reminds me of LXI

regrettably, you're probably town for this



This is the last real post I will have on this matter yamato as again I don't want to repeat LXI however. I have been here off and on all bloody day and a chunk of last night. Whereas you attacked me while I was sleeping then vanished for the majority of the day. More posts than someone doesn't mean more activity. I am not technically wrong on this. You can disagree with me all you want but from my perception you haven't been here a shit ton.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 04:18 GMT
#1387
regardless, I am now going to bed. I work in 6ish hours and will be back after im done work. Given that could be a 12 hour day it could be awhile. Ill try to check shit out on my phone while on break but I may not be able to post much.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 22:24 GMT
#1970
I have quickly more or less caught up. Given that it seems im out of the race everyone should be consolidating votes on VE and SS.

Both are the best choices excluding myself for the elected slots. No offense to yamato but he is not in the same caliber to warrant the extra night life IMO compared to the three of us.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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