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On December 05 2013 08:12 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 08:09 Grackaroni wrote:On December 05 2013 08:02 austinmcc wrote:On December 05 2013 07:59 Grackaroni wrote:On December 05 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:
Right? Onegu has been picking two fights this game. Calling HF scummy and LM townie as part of that, and calling rayn townie and sometimes koshi has looked scummy for going after rayn (Onegu's koshi read seems to fluctuate with koshi's rayn read).
If you're scumOnegu, one of the guys you've been pushing as mafia just exploded into activity to lynch a dude you're calling town, and you KNOW is town. You can freely double down, your Koshi read keeps flopping, but rayn is SUPER OBVIOUS TOWN (to onegu) at this point, and koshi should know that, so Koshi's attempt to lynch him shows 100000% that koshi is mafia and probably that Pandain or Risen is mafia, and Koshi is trying to push votes away.
Bing bang boom. I guess they didn't know whether rayn would get the votes or not, but scumOnegu could have seriously pushed Koshi.
The counterargument is....any Onegu should have pushed Koshi? That scum or town, Koshi pushing rayn = scumkoshi to onegu, and he should have hammered that, trying to save his townreads in BC and rayn and trying to push Koshi as a doodyhead. I think what is more telling is the way that he pushed Koshi. He mostly just sits back and tries to direct Rayn to tunnel people for him instead of posting his own case and putting himself out there against Koshi. Mafia can and, in my opinion, often do have static reads. BC is supposed to be really good at scum and he had pretty much the same reads all game long with the exception of adding on Mig to his scum list on day three for shooting the doctor. I mean, static reads are fine. That's the problem. Onegu COULD HAVE kept this static read going. He could have HAMMERED koshi for pushing a guy that he knew would flip town (either by lynch or shortly by NK, as rayn was very active). But instead, he's fine dropping koshi and voting me. When he's in the clear to keep his static read AND knows Koshi is about to look very scummy, he's willing to swap his vote. He moved off Risen for having good posts at the deadline (easy lynch for another day) to somebody who was never going to get lynched that day. people didn't agree with koshi being scum for pushing Rayn so he rereads Koshi's filter and changes his mind and states that he wants to make his vote matter (Later moves on to you by himself so he doesn't do that). The next day when people were angry Koshi lynched Rayn and were voting Risen his suspicion goes right back to Koshi and Risen. I know. It's the swapping off Koshi on D3 AT ALL that confuses me. Whether people agreed or disagreed on koshi, rayn was either going to be dead or ALMOST be dead (and probably killed shortly after), adding fuel to his Koshi fire. But he no do.
I guess he could have stayed on Koshi but his reason for switching off him is inconsistent and Rayn wasn't actually as far up in the vote list during that attack so it is possible that he was worried about Rayn.
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On December 05 2013 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
Back on topic, let's consolidate to someone please. I think slam/onegu/pandain are good lynches to have today.
Then go vote Onegu...
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Btw Vaynes main suspicions were on Onegu + one of Pandain/Austin and a little bit me. I'd say he was probably quite accurate considering that he got killed with suspicion on him and both Pandain and Austin are against lynching Onegu.
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Which games have you played with coag that makes you think that? I don't see why he wouldn't vote and peace as scum.
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I'd agree with that. Definitely someone with influence has been messing up the lynches unless we are just crazy bad at lynching scum.
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aka Pandain or HF. (could be me too I guess)
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I think we can all agree that Austin is town right? that's 1 town vote locked in on LM and I don't think we can reasonably expect to get all of the remaining townies to vote whoever the scum is between those 2 today without Austin's help. If we aren't all agreed we lose to a last minute swap.
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No I liked Austin's points on LM and will probably end up sheeping him. What I'm saying is I Don't think Pandain would bus HF right now for no reason if they were both scum so if we end up voting between Pandain/HF I feel like we will lose.
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But now I just checked the vote thread and you aren't even voting Pandain so I guess my point is irrelevant. Consolidation = good. Single votes = loss.
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Sheeting Austin. ##Vote: Lonemeow
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Booooo Marv. How dare you leave your home during a game of mafia.
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Yeah but LM never actually voted lol.
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For real? Why would you claim veteran in mason chat if you were actually a vet?
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Lol fuck we should have lynched coag
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On December 08 2013 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Look at that scummy panda ninja voter
because mafia needed to move their vote off of you in case all of the townies swapped to coag in the last minute...
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On December 08 2013 11:11 Coagulation wrote:I didnt mason shit.
So what are you even saying? that I'm some kind of a secret mason that masoned Blazinghand day1 and then tried to cover up his lack of masoning anyone else day 2 by claiming to have masoned Coagulation?
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EPT
