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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 00:50 GMT
#1381
##vote vanesco
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 10 2013 00:50 GMT
#1382
Are those the only things you have gotten over the period of 72 hours?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 00:54 GMT
#1383
Well, I can say that if Sylencia is scum rayn also might be scum. Because I remember rayn saying sylencia was scum and nowadays he is pushing Cephiro who is the 1 person Sylencia spoke about in his 2 page filter.

Those kinda things I am focusing on atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 00:55 GMT
#1384
Not saying that it is possible Cephiro is scum and Sylencia is really good or lucky or scum bussing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 00:55 GMT
#1385
impossible*
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 01:00 GMT
#1386
So if you really really want me to name 3 guys I would go for rayn, syl and Mr. Snowman.

I base this purely on me being awesome.
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 01:02 GMT
#1387
ok van it's your turn to share
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 10 2013 01:02 GMT
#1388
Currently my scum reads are still on Umasi and sno. I am even more inclined to be suspicious of sno and umasi because WoS's scum reads were similar to mine in that he was also suspicious of them two.

If I were to have to add a 3rd it would have to be koshi. He has done nothing in the game except for saying some random things and just lurk around. Everybody else at least have given some types of reads and some reasonings to them where it seems that koshi just wants everybody to do the work for them and just sheep onto them.

##Vote: Sn0_Man
Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#1389
EBWOP

##Vote: Sn0_Man
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 01:07 GMT
#1390
Ok I lied. I took my 3 names of WoS his N1 reads. But why not right?
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 01:07 GMT
#1391
why sn0man? stop being lazy. i'm pretty sure we only have 1 mislynch left so if you actually think sn0man is scum then you should be trying your damnedest to prove it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 10 2013 01:16 GMT
#1392
I have already talked about it extensively in my previous posts: here, here, here, and here. I'm not being lazy but why should I repeat everything I have already mentioned that I still agree with. And you are correct at being at MYLO but only if scum get a NK and a blue shot off.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 01:39 GMT
#1393
Ok, lets go through each of those posts then. Sn0_Man if you're town then you really need to make an appearance.

post 1

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On November 07 2013 17:18 Vanesco wrote:
After me trying to ask why people decided to vote on gumshoe in the last few minutes of the day I only got 2 responses (by thrawn and rayn). Mostly everybody else has been kinda lurking up to this point and still hasn't given a reason for their vote on gumshoe. I still believe that most likely that scum was involved in the vote since i don't think 7/9 townies would instantly change their vote which is why the reasons for switching your votes is really important in my opinion.

Out of the 7 who voted on gumshoe I feel like the most scummy are umasi and sno_man.

For those who are wondering why thrawn isn't there is because I do not think he is as scummy as I did last time. Ever since night 1 he has been posting well in my opinion. Another reason why is because of what I found suspicious at first, that he kinda deflected off of hzflank and started the vote on gumshoe. The more I think of it it makes me lean more town on him each time.

The argument still stands if they are both scum, but it would have been a big risk to take, but still a possibility. I don't see the scenario working if thrawn was scum and hzflank was town, that he would poke his head so far out to vote on gumshoe when all that was needed was 1 more vote on hzflank. And if thrawn is town, regardless of hzflanks alignment, he thought that gumshoe was a better vote as explained in his reasoning.



you gave no reason why the scummiest gumshoe votes were umasi/sn0, you merely stated that you thought so. the bulk of that post is you explaining how your read changed on me, something which is a little uneeded, especially since you didn't feel the need to go into your sn0 scum read. When you say things like "For those who are wondering why thrawn isn't there" it makes me think you feel guilty about being mafia or whatever.

post 2

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On November 08 2013 13:03 Vanesco wrote:
This town is seriously ignoring so many things its putting town at a setback in my opinion. Like seriously, its now Day 2 and we are in a worse position than at the start of the game. Now instead of 10 townies we are down to 8 while scum are still at 3. What has town learnt? Not much apart from having more time to make reads on player interaction. Why is nobody interested in following up on how gumshoe was killed or why OO was a target?

So far (unless I accidentally missed it in the thread), Umasi, EchelonTee (now kinda excused since replaced), Sn0_Man, and Cephiro have not given any type of explanation as to why they decided to change their vote onto gumshoe in the last few minutes, which I am still waiting for. If those 3 (this is excluding EchelonTee) are allowed to get away with lynching a townie without ever even having to reason why it would be a big mistake. If one of those 3 happens to be scum then its like giving them a free pass on a kill.

OO's death is interesting in my opinion since a few people were kinda talking about lynching or thinking of lynching him come day 2. I think that regardless of if OO was NK or silver bullet shot, there was a reason why they chose him over somebody else. It seems that OO was mainly focused on sno for most of the game. He was also suspicious of others however sno is the one that seems to occur many times and sno's posts have very much the similar type where he has been mainly wanting to get rid of OO.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


I still dont see you giving an adequate explanation for your sn0 scumread. All you do is talk about how he didn't answer your questions regarding the D1 last minute vote switch. There were lots of other people who completely ignored your questions, and imo they weren't very important questions to begin with. Anyone with half a brain can read the pages leading up to gum's lynch and be able to figure out why the thread wanted gumshoe dead. The vote switch was not that big of a deal imo and not very alignment indicative of anyone participating. You spent waaaaaay too much time talking about it. Later in that post also try to setup sn0 to be scum based on night kill speculation which makes me feel verrrrrrry uneasy about your motives.

post 3

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On November 08 2013 13:23 Vanesco wrote:
I don't really think sno has had any affect (or effect?) on this game so far. He mentions that he is playing like his standard day 1 and not really giving any reads. I don't know his meta or really care for it too much, but not willing to give ANY reads sends some alarm bells to my head thinking he could be scum. He also says that he promises he is making reads and thinking about the game, where so far all he has really done is talk about how he thinks OO has died and nothing else of actual value.


dude, pick almost anyone from the game and lots of the things here are true about them too. I actually think you've had less of an impact on the game than sn0. People have been pretty much ignoring you and letting you get away with making post after post about D1 lynch analysis without ever having very much to show for it.

post 4

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On November 09 2013 01:30 Vanesco wrote:
Ok so has nobody noticed that although Onegu says he is voting on rayn but puts his vote instead on koshi? (apart from maybe WoS). Onegu, not giving reasons for your vote just seems like your trying to put your vote on someone and hoping that others agree with you. I want to hear more of why you voted for you who voted (and maybe switch your vote cause from your post it looks like you want to vote rayn instead of koshi).

I also don't like how Umasi just comes out of nowhere after being on my case for the whole game and then just suddenly backing off without any reason why. He then proceeds to vote without anything other than thinking that cephiro is a possible lynch. Like wtf. Umasi explain your actions since nothing is making sense.

Sno keeps on talking about how he thinks OO died and is really wanting to make others think that it is a silver bullet (when we are not sure). To me it seems most likely that sno is saying this because if OO was killed by a silver bullet, it puts less suspicion on him, but if OO was a nightkill than there seems to be more suspicion on sno. I've also disliked that sno at one point wanted the votes on the blue to come out.

At the moment I am comfortable with lynching Umasi or sno.


this post... idk. the things you say about sn0 are true but they aren't very damning imo. it's all speculation about sn0's speculation....bleh. also, I kinda want sn0man to chime in on this point before I defend him because I think I know what he was thinking but I want to hear him say it first.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 01:47 GMT
#1394
One thing I just noticed while doing the filter diving needed for that last post is that you (vanesco) hardly ever scumhunt. You don't question people in a way that makes me think you're trying to figure out who is scum. You wasted a large amount of time being insanely fixated on the silly D1 votes. Right now you are being a complete turd and not caring about today's lynch which is the most important lynch of the game thus far. I ask you questions? You say you won't play along until koshi plays along. I ask you to show me why your lynch candidate (sno) is mafia, you won't play along and refer to your earlier posts. If you truly cared about finding scum then you'd be playing completely differently.

in other words I highly recommend anyone to take a good look at vanesco and consider him to be one of today's lynch candidates
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#1395
I promise I will look into Mr. Snowman tomorrow and then see if I see something scummy. If there isn't I will take a look at Vanesco. Then I will look at rayn and if I like what I see I will look at thrawn. After that I think I must have at least find 1 scum or townies to sheep.

But for now. Sleep. gn.

DISCLAIMER
+ Show Spoiler +
When I said "promise" it actually means "really really likely"
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 02:47 GMT
#1396
vanesco where'd you run off to?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 04:29 GMT
#1397
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#1398
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 04:37 GMT
#1399
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.


What do you think sylencia's berating of town says about his alignment and why? Annnnnnd do you have anything else you want to talk about?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 10 2013 05:01 GMT
#1400
On November 10 2013 13:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.


What do you think sylencia's berating of town says about his alignment and why? Annnnnnd do you have anything else you want to talk about?

I dont remember where, or even who, though I think it was marv, but someone said that posts like syl's are almost always from scum. I also dont even remember why, I just saw that post and something clicked in my brain that said he's supposed to be scum for it.

Other stuff, i think you, ceph, rayn and koshi are town.
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