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Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 10 2013 17:10 GMT
#1421
Sorry I was away. Someone got hurt and had to take to hospital and then got home late and went straight to bed.

To the accusations on me I think most of them are just on my filter length. In my newbie game I was able to try to lead town discussion but however I pointed too many fingers at everybody in day 1 and that made my death almost useless as I pointed out something scummy in everyone (not to mention most of my biggest scum reads were town). This game I am being more cautious with my accusations because of how poorly my judgement was in the previous game. Although I haven't posted much I am analyzing the game pretty carefully and trying to push my lynch targets as best as I can.

I would still think that sno is the best lynch. He's not having to do anything and is still getting a free pass all fucking game long. It's like everybody else is allowing lurkers to lurk all game long without providing anything at all. Just read his filter and try to find some original reads he has on people and you will find practically none, all he really does is just analyse facts that don't make him give any reads (eg. that maybe OO died by silver bullet).
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
November 10 2013 17:44 GMT
#1422
Koshi
Koshis play on its own has been kind of alarming, with regards to his day one. He was much quicker in newbie mafia XLVII at getting into the game, and has generally been dead weight. That said, he's picking it up currently, so good stuff there, I hope he continues.
Judging the slot (hzflankxkoshi) it's townier, so slight townread.

Hopeless1der
Similar to koshi in that he's replaced and been not active, but I haven't seen him start to pick it up. (I realize that I'm the poster child for inactivity.)
That said, no posts of his are actually scummy, he's done well at explaining his reads as he read through the game, and they all seem genuine.
slot itself (ETxHopeless1der), doesn't really change it, so slight townread.

Sn0_Man
WoS, Onegu, and Obvious One were all suspicious of sn0_man, and good points have been brought up against him constantly. I haven't gotten out of the back of my head the 'he's lynchbaity' notion mentioned d1, so that makes me a little more lean town... But more frequently than not scummy people are scum so wuevuh.
I also lean a little town because of A: his filter size (showing he's genuinely trying) and B: Lots of comments seem to be thrown out flippantly. But there's been a lot of steam rolling towards his lynch all game, so I'm just genuinely unsure regarding sn0.

Vanesco
I've disliked him since his first post regarding Sylencia, I second the point that it doesn't seem like he has been trying to scumhunt, and his posts always come across as super constructed. I don't think his posts on Sn0_Man make sn0 scum, and he's obviously wrong regarding me. He's had the thought that both Sn0 and me are scum since day two, this hasn't changed, he hasn't pushed us, and I still don't really know why. scum.


Preferred lynch order is Vanesco>Cephiro>Sn0, although kinda not sn0.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2013 17:44 GMT
#1423
I'll be around later on today.
thrawn i already told i won bitchcraft on N1..
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 10 2013 18:32 GMT
#1424
rayn you think that Sylencia and Cephiro can be scum together?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2013 18:39 GMT
#1425
I have to relook closer but from what i remember from top of my no.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2013 18:40 GMT
#1426
EBWOP: from top of my head..
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:33:07
November 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#1427
Vote-Count: Day 3


Vanseco (2): Thrawn2112, Umasi
Sn0_Man (1): Vanesco, Thrawn2112

Not Voting (6): Cephiro, Sylencia, Sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Hopeless1der



Currently no-one is set to be lynched! 5 votes are needed to lynch.

The deadline is in @ Monday, Nov 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

Make sure to PM your ONE witchcraft vote to both Blazinghand and Ange777 by the deadline.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 22:28 GMT
#1428
lol... this game is approaching GSL Open MM II level of lurkfest

why bh why?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1429
sorry thrawn I cant bring myself to give a shit right now...this setup should probably be invite-only from here on.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 10 2013 22:39 GMT
#1430
^ I am with this guy. I am around but meh
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 10 2013 22:40 GMT
#1431
##vote: Vanesco

I can sheep you thrawn, but tbh I would prefer to lynch syl.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 10 2013 22:42 GMT
#1432
Or Umasi. Strange guy as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 10 2013 22:44 GMT
#1433
But who knows really. Vanesco might work as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 04:37 GMT
#1434
fuck i dont know what to say. i've typed out about 5 different posts but deleted all of them because there's no point. screw you guys for wasting a week of my life lol

+ Show Spoiler +
i'm not mad... just depressed. lol. i will keep playing because it'd be hilarious if town wins
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 04:42 GMT
#1435
oh WoS a special fuck you for that post-death post you made. it's better to just keep your mouth shut than posting something that's only going to make all the people in the game less motivated to play. you didn't post anything during the night phase so it was obvious that you'd given up. that's cool. just don't play against your win-con after you're already removed from the game alright?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 11 2013 07:12 GMT
#1436
Something something weekend something something not at all convinced vanesco is scum.

##Vote: Vanesco
I'll attempt to show up pre-lynch since I feel like syl's a better one but majority etc.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
November 11 2013 07:25 GMT
#1437
I won't be here at the deadline.
Anyone have questions why vanesco is the candidate to vote for?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 08:01 GMT
#1438
too add onto the point about van's posts feeling heavily constructed..

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 04 2013 15:50 Vanesco wrote:
Well I agree with the reasoning which is why I decided to vote. Also since many people commented on it, it seems like a fairly normal thing to do on TL mafia and since I plan on playing many more games, it would be foolish not to adapt. Overall, regardless whether I was voting for him or not, I still stand by Umasi being one of my scum reads.


On November 05 2013 16:02 Vanesco wrote:
thrawn:
[words words words words.....] Currently he is a scummy read to me. I would like to know your reasons why you unvoted rayn.
##Vote: thrawn2112


On November 04 2013 13:44 Vanesco wrote:
I don't get where this idea of my calling out Syl for not being firm is coming from. I just didn't like what he had to say and I decided that instead of people joking around I wanted to actually start the game, so I called him out. I didn't really take much of a stance because nothing in his response made me feel like he was scummy.

I'm having a really big scum read on Umasi currently.




I bolded the parts I'm about to talk about. IMO, saying "I'm having a really big scum read on X" is a very scummy way of saying "I really think X is scum." There are more instances of Van doing what I'm talking about than what I've quoted, if you look through his filter you see that he often takes care to qualify his reads as "scum reads" or "town reads." I don't claim to know what psychological reason would make a liar (in this game all scum players are essentially liars) talk in this specific way, but I do think that saying "I have a scum read on X" instead of "I think X is scum" is very unnatural. Another way of putting it is that it seems very constructed. Now OBVIOUSLY if someone says "I'm having a scum read on X" that's not any kind of huge scum tell. But when they talk like that the entire game, something's up. It makes me think Van's reads aren't actually his reads because of the strange way he refers to them.

Hmmm.. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this correctly. It's like two people are in front of me and I'm tasked to figure out which of them is happy and which isn't. Only one of them is happy but both of them want to convince me that they are the happy one. One of them is smiling. The other is saying "I am having a happy feeling" while maintaining a blank emotionless stare. In this game, Vanesco is the guy with the blank stare and empty words who is not happy (not town)
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 11 2013 08:08 GMT
#1439
Make sure to cast your ONE witchcraft vote to both me and ange777 before the end of the day!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 11 2013 08:17 GMT
#1440
Vote-Count: Day 3


Vanseco (4): Thrawn2112, Umasi, Koshi, Sn0_Man
Sn0_Man (1): Vanesco, Thrawn2112

Not Voting (6): Cephiro, Sylencia, raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der



Currently no-one is set to be lynched! 5 votes are needed to lynch.

The deadline is in @ Monday, Nov 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

Make sure to PM your ONE witchcraft vote to both Blazinghand and Ange777 by the deadline.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
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