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last time i asked him shit like that he clammed up and told me to read his older posts. did you read that exchange? it started on pg 69 when van began questioning cutie koshi in a really weak an non-scumhunty way. it was so obvious that van wasn't scumhunting. koshi posted
On November 10 2013 09:36 Koshi wrote:
Vanesco Give me 1 name that you think is scum and I will dig into that guy.
and did vanesco respond? no. It doesn't look like Van is committed to figuring out koshi's alignment, does it? I asked van for his reads, he replies by saying "koshi has to go first." Koshi did end up giving reads... they were weak reads but they were reads and you could see where koshi was coming from. Then Vanesco gave up on his questioning so quickly that it's soooo obvious he didn't care about the conversation in the first place. During all that I try to get vanseco to give a better response about his scum read and I get redirected to his filter. I respond to this redirection. Does he care? No. I broke down each of the posts he linked me and he STILL hasn't gotten back to me. He simply does not care about convincing me that sn0man is mafia. All he's done since that whole ordeal is write a long winded excuse for why his filter's so short.
at this point i'm scared that if we try to go for someone other than vanseco that we won't reach a majority. otherwise I might be open to the possibility of lynching sn0 or syl.
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that last post was about what you asked vanesco to do a few posts back. haven't read your sn0 stuff yet
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Even looking at the town vote I'm feeling so lazy because there's such a low chance of 5 townies voting Vanesco there.
Anyways, time to catch up from the night time
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Yeah i get that. That's basically what i said about Van in my post. The "clammed up" could be true but could also be not. Someone not posting in some time frame is not incriminating in my opinion, i get accused of it quite often and it always makes me mad because i never lie about being able / not being able to post.
If Vanesco is scum why would he not make shit up at that time instead of later on (because by your definition it looks worse on him). If he is scum and you are right he HAS to make shit up in any case.
I don't think that's alignment indicative. I agree that him questioning Koshi looks fishy and non-scumhunting'y.
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I'm perfectly fine with letting what Sn0 and Vanseco do for the rest of the day determine which of them gets lynched. I would ass sylencia to that plan but I don;t think we have enough time or active players to sort out all 3 of them.
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On November 11 2013 18:58 Sylencia wrote:
Even looking at the town vote I'm feeling so lazy because there's such a low chance of 5 townies voting Vanesco there.
Anyways, time to catch up from the night time
This is fucking terrible Sylencia.
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On November 11 2013 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i get that. That's basically what i said about Van in my post. The "clammed up" could be true but could also be not. Someone not posting in some time frame is not incriminating in my opinion, i get accused of it quite often and it always makes me mad because i never lie about being able / not being able to post.
If Vanesco is scum why would he not make shit up at that time instead of later on (because by your definition it looks worse on him). If he is scum and you are right he HAS to make shit up in any case.
I don't think that's alignment indicative. I agree that him questioning Koshi looks fishy and non-scumhunting'y.
I'm not really talking about him going afk. During that conversation he was being so damn uncooperative, with all the "koshi first" shit. For the posts he made where he DID respond quickly, there was no substance to the posts and he wouldn't, and my guess is couldn't, elaborate on anything.
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Add Sylencia to the plan.
Also during night (or now) hard look on Cephiro. He makes promises but doesn't keep them. Maybe he is ballsy enough to claim witchcraft win out of the bat.
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On November 11 2013 19:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i get that. That's basically what i said about Van in my post. The "clammed up" could be true but could also be not. Someone not posting in some time frame is not incriminating in my opinion, i get accused of it quite often and it always makes me mad because i never lie about being able / not being able to post.
If Vanesco is scum why would he not make shit up at that time instead of later on (because by your definition it looks worse on him). If he is scum and you are right he HAS to make shit up in any case.
I don't think that's alignment indicative. I agree that him questioning Koshi looks fishy and non-scumhunting'y. I'm not really talking about him going afk. During that conversation he was being so damn uncooperative, with all the "koshi first" shit. For the posts he made where he DID respond quickly, there was no substance to the posts and he wouldn't, and my guess is couldn't, elaborate on anything.
Yeah, i agree.
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On November 11 2013 19:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
I'm perfectly fine with letting what Sn0 and Vanseco do for the rest of the day determine which of them gets lynched. I would ADD sylencia to that plan but I don;t think we have enough time or active players to sort out all 3 of them.
ASS >>> ADD although i'd ass sylencia any day
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Assing Sylencia sounds fine too!
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On November 09 2013 04:03 Cephiro wrote:
Syl, get off me, you're wasting your time. Find the real scum instead.
I'll address accusations and questions towards me presented in the thread as first priority, with analysis after. See you soon enough.
I like his following defense against my accusations against him during N1... oh wait he never said a word about it since everyone forgot about it.
On November 10 2013 06:15 Cephiro wrote:
The vote claim thing?
A bit late for that. As well as the way our blues have actioned if my current theory is anywhere near the truth, revealing the votes might end up being more harm, since we don't have many town players left. I reckon there may still be some use if I modified it a little, but I don't see it as a game-changer at this point. There is a lot more to gain from analysis right now.
On November 10 2013 06:29 Cephiro wrote:
.... I never claimed it to be perfect, but it would have been great if people were willing to go along with it earlier. As well as the fact that losing so many town players this far. It's a two-edged sword, really.
Horrible play - he's unwilling to ever tell us what the plan was. He says we should've gone along with it earlier (N2 was the earliest we could've gone with the revealing votes, and we just passed N2...) despite that being impossible.
On November 10 2013 06:46 Cephiro wrote:
My secondary actions would have all been targeted on WoS as well during N1
Action #1: Track Syl
Action #2: Roleblock WoS
Action #3: Normal DT check WoS
My first one got picked.
I don't consider it possible for WoS to be the godfather if he is scum, he would not try to gain towncred so hard as he has the whole game otherwise.
Ok, Ceph claims here. Who actually voted for him during N1. If there's no one, this is obviously fake. Tracking me is such a convenient action to choose from anyways, since no one trusted me during D1, and so obviously I'm not going to have any action. Action 1 would've been Track WoS if we were being realistic here.
On November 10 2013 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
sylencia, i want your read on me in detail.
Post below makes you think you're not reading what I'm posting, yet you've got suspicions of me being scum. Suspicious. You haven't really done anything since you've replaced in. You had this magical list of : Onegu, Umasi, Sn0_Man, Sylencia.
The one you post cases on: Sn0. The one you vote for: Onegu. Reasoning: In case of shennanies. wtf is this?
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.
lol i wasn't even around for the last 8 hours of the day. never was, never am. I presented a clear alternative. Are you even reading how much I am tunnelling?
May as well mention: Onegu, Umasi, Rayn were my N1 votes. (I don't remember why I chose Umasi, but hey)
Posting more, so you guys can go ahead and attack this while I continue on my rage reading
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Hey guys I never said I wans't going to try, relaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Thrawn what do you make out of the OO kill?
It was pretty weird tbh. Do you think WoS was right in saying scum were afraid of protections?
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Sylencia why the fuck would you vote for Onegu?
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On November 11 2013 18:58 Sylencia wrote:
Even looking at the town vote I'm feeling so lazy because there's such a low chance of 5 townies voting Vanesco there.
Anyways, time to catch up from the night time
how does the alleged low probability of 5 votes being on vanesco have anything to do with how motivated you are. wtf were you trying to say here?
that vanesco is an easy mislynch?
that there are scum among the vanseco voters?
that we shouldn't expect anything from you?
there's no point to this post other than trying to discredit the vanseco lynch without having to give any reads at all or say anything even somewhat constructive. stop shitting all over town with every post you make
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Also, is it wrong in thinking the following:
- If we mislynch it's 4v3 tomorrow day.
- If we have town gain a power we will probably lose since it's likely scum hasn't used a single bullet yet, so they can just yolo shot the two most likely people to have a power.
- If they hit, they win.
Game is hard.
Back to reading.
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tbh i do not understand Cephiro's actions N1..
Why did he choose track over DT check? Why would he choose roleblock over DT check?
If you were blue would you do so?
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On November 11 2013 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thrawn what do you make out of the OO kill?
It was pretty weird tbh. Do you think WoS was right in saying scum were afraid of protections?
Well... why wouldn't they be? AND if vanesco and sn0man are scum, then vanesco already told us why OO died.
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On November 11 2013 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sylencia why the fuck would you vote for Onegu?
Because it was so unlikely that he was scum from his self-vote. I had no one listed as being that townie during D1.
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