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On November 07 2013 16:33 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2013 15:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2013 15:38 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 07 2013 15:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you remember why we thought Onegu was town in Desert?
That's the stuff i mean with tricky. I remember that but not sure on why. I do remember at one point he was explaining that this is just how he plays, like he did earlier in this game I think? It convinced me in that game I remember. But tell me what you're talking about and do you think WoS might be right? The Sylencia stuff. Do you remember it? What do you mean with "WoS might be right"? Nope. If you're talking about something that happened after I died then I wouldn't know. I'm asking if you think onegu might be town because this doesn't look like scumplay: Show nested quote +On November 07 2013 14:05 Onegu wrote:On November 07 2013 14:03 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 07 2013 13:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 07 2013 13:28 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 07 2013 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 07 2013 13:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 07 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also sorry thrawn having severe idgaf issues right now.
I'll get to the stuff I promised eventually. yeah I know. but forget about ET and rayn for now because this vote onegu just made is crazy. I looked through his filter and he never talks to or about rayn as if he thinks he's mafia. Onegu never implies that he thinks rayn is scum until just now, and the only reasoning was because maybe scum rayn was trying to save scum hzflank? This is after Onegu start throwing out quotes to show that hzflank is scum... why wouldn't he just vote for hz? The answer... as much as you hate to admit it, imo is because rayn is town and onegu thinks that's an easier mislynch. It's like Onegu just wants to be lynched. Are there jesters in this game lol? The issue becomes the 'too scummy to be scum' thing. I can't honestly tell where to sit on this. My gut tells me a scum Onegu just wouldn't play this badly. Do you remember that quote rayn provided? On November 07 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like this is what Onegu did in Desert final day: On September 12 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would you, as town, in MYLO, say "I think Sno is scum, i'm okay with no-lynch, i am voting for yamato"??
Why? And we did not lynch him for it. :p Anyways good night. Yup, and I was waiting for you to point that out because it doesn't mean shit here---Onegu didn't fuck up, backtrack, try to cover anything up. He's just playing balls-to-the-wall shit. And Onegu himself brings up a good point. Rayn DOES call him tricky. This doesn't look tricky in the slightest. yeah, I think what he's doing is backtracking, but if you believe him then he's not backtracking. he claimed to have been developing suspicions about rayn earlier, he just didn't point them out. we have to accept that on faith because there is nothing in his filter to prove to us on way or the other if he ever thought rayn was mafia so the two choices are: 1) believe that he did think rayn was scum before now, except he didn't say anything about it and chose to talk about other stuff instead 2) he's scum and playing terribly Wait where did I say I thought rayn was scum earlier? The first time was when I saw his BS reason for makeing me look bad, hell I voted dor him to be blue before this.
You were alive. I don't have time to dig up the quotes now but i will if it's necessary. Onegu made a big post about asking Sylencia (his scumbuddy) -- who was hosting another game -- where "he asked" if he could talk about some other game and blabla. When we figured Sylencia was scum nobody expected Onegu's actions to be scum-scum interaction.
The quote you bring up is stupid. There is no town motivation to fucking tell who you voted in witchcraft and if Onegu is scum he can say wtf he want's about it because it doesn't mean shit.
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On November 07 2013 16:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok so as scum he will say anything
btw i am high and tired so idc and I don't want to decide right now. will see you all later
Yes, as scum he does say equally stupid stuff than he does as town - he just rides with "scum would never do this" or "too scummy to be scum". Now he is trying to say i am wrong on my read on him by picking up a quote where i say "he does tricky stuff as scum" and not answering what's been brought up against him at all.
And the "tricky stuff" =/= "he does not do stupid stuff as scum" which he tries to imply here. I hope i am being clear enough.
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On November 07 2013 17:17 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 23:24 Onegu wrote:On September 02 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 01 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk? onegu TK, what are your thoughts on the claims by Debears and Rayn? As for Onegu, I really don't understand your case against him. Onegu apparently thought FT was scum, and his explanation about it (having played a ton of games with a visibly different town FT) makes sense. What precludes Onegu from finding multiple players suspicious and voting his top scumread (FT)? Hapahauli how does TK's case on Onegu make no sense? Being played with someone a lot does not make you good at meta-reading them. Onegu has never played in a game where FirmTofu has been mafia! That's like the basis of a meta-read. FirmTofu has been inactive before (see GoT). It does not make him mafia, yet Onegu suggests it is "nothing like FT's town games". Guess what, it's also nothing like his scumgame either.. That's why Onegu's "meta-read" makes zero sense. Why actually you do not understand TK's case on Onegu? Ok I sent a PM to the hosts and syl (hope thats not illegal/cheating) if I could talk about FT in P4 when we talking about I have never seen his scum play, and since at the time he hadnt flipped and the game wasnt over they told me I couldnt. But now that the game is over I have seen FT play scum, it had no resemblence to this game, but my main point about his meta with me was I have seen him play lurky town in GoT and in that game he still made reads on people just not many, and when he came back he defended himself and posted his reads for his post death flip, he did none of those things this game. While sounding like a broken record, his meta wasnt the only reason I voted for him. His play and lack of interest was also scummy. He deserved to die and I would have done it again because he was playing scummy and against his meta. The only thing I said to syl in the PM was can I talk about FT in persona, and his answer was no, the game is ongoing. Sorry if this is against the rules or cheating. I just wanted to know if I could talk about it. How is this anywhere close to what is going on THIS game?
It has to do with this game in a manner that i am explaining people why i said you do "tricky stuff" as scum and you are trying to misrepresent me by saying "i did stupid stuff in this game, therefore i am town, look, rayn even says here i do tricky stuff as scum and now he is calling me scum for the opposite" while not even trying to answer the argument i have against you.
You are defending yourself against something that doesn't exist and not against the argument there is against you.
I am telling people that this is what you are doing.
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Vanesco start talking about something that has to do with the current events or make a case on someone. You have now talked about the votes for a day and reached no conclusions. I will lynch you 100% if the conclusions are not in the next post you make.
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I am puzzled why are you voting for me when the only reason you think i am scum is that hz is scum?
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On November 07 2013 17:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
Ok now pretend same thing for rayn... where would your vote go?
based on what? that hz is town?
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oh you were asking onegu.. carry on.
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i have absolutely no idea why wos thinks i am scum.
because i called D1 bad? well it was.
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Do you have anything to say about Onegu?
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WoS i liked your post on Sn0, it's nearly the exact thoughts i had when i read those posts. He hasn't been saying much, there are people being discussed (me/Onegu/Syl/Hopeless/etc..) and he comes in with "hmm doods, why was OO hit?" and says pretty much nothing at all.
Onegu me doing nothing is bullshit. I have done the most today maybe barring thrawn, last night there was nothing to talk about because noone was here. At that point i had said everything there was to say for me. Why are you trying to continuously make me look bad for something that's not there? Feels like you have just decided i am scum and the go find reasons why could i be scum. Vote stands.
Sylencia looks worse. I liked his D1 but not his D2 the slightest. I can't possibly understand he has played scum with Onegu just a while ago and that's all he has to say about him.
Still waiting for hopeless to catch up. If he doesn't i will seriously consider him for a lynch. Same with Cephiro. I liked this from Umasi:
I think it's actually patently absurd that someone can be so anti-WoS. Just as an aside.
Koshiiiiiii <3<3<3<3 Also Koshi, i hope you catch up today, hzflank wasn't looking too dandy and you didn't really help your slot with your posts yet.
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It's ~6AM for Koshi, i doubt he will post in the next hours..
Onegu thoughts on Sno and Sylencia? More than a sentence.
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How does ET's posting look different from Hogwarts?
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I am basically waiting for Koshi/hopeless to catch up and other people to post.
Atm the game looks like rayn & thrawn talking and other people lurking. If this does not change we might aswell do the infamous Blazinghand randomizer (current hits-on-scum-rate 0/3 vanillatown,cop,candies) and pray we hit scum.
WoS made a good post and went off again. Onegu hasn't done anything to make me take my vote off him. Umasi made some good posts. So did Vanesco. Sylencia made more meh posts. hopeless is hopeless and mia. Same with Cephiro. Koshi is catching up.
bleh..
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Well un-tunnel your scumteam, at least the one you are talking about, because it's bad and talk about somehing that's scum.
Your reasoning is really weak for any of those people atm.
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I didn't mean Koshi, talking about Koshi is okay.
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uhmm.. you could start by reading the OP...
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Well, this is a bit unlucky but if I have to vote 2 people it is ET and Onegu.
ET was just sheepy and opinionated, like why did he vote me and then unvote me. I don't get it.
Onegu for voting himself and calling hz flank his townreads scum.
Sad but true most likely ET was not invested in this game and therefore played poorly.
Onegu dnu, but can vote.
w00t???
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I am not a blue
woot???
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Those 3 names I gave before were the votes hzflank sent as votes
w00t???
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I read the OP.
w00t???
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Koshi now stfu, read the thread and vote for scum.
What you just said does not help town. It only helps scum.
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On November 08 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 14:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:WoS i liked your post on Sn0, it's nearly the exact thoughts i had when i read those posts. He hasn't been saying much, there are people being discussed (me/Onegu/Syl/Hopeless/etc..) and he comes in with "hmm doods, why was OO hit?" and says pretty much nothing at all. Onegu me doing nothing is bullshit. I have done the most today maybe barring thrawn, last night there was nothing to talk about because noone was here. At that point i had said everything there was to say for me. Why are you trying to continuously make me look bad for something that's not there? Feels like you have just decided i am scum and the go find reasons why could i be scum. Vote stands. Sylencia looks worse. I liked his D1 but not his D2 the slightest. I can't possibly understand he has played scum with Onegu just a while ago and that's all he has to say about him. Still waiting for hopeless to catch up. If he doesn't i will seriously consider him for a lynch. Same with Cephiro. I liked this from Umasi: I think it's actually patently absurd that someone can be so anti-WoS. Just as an aside. Koshiiiiiii <3<3<3<3 Also Koshi, i hope you catch up today, hzflank wasn't looking too dandy and you didn't really help your slot with your posts yet. It's not really like you to brag about your activity---that's more my style. Rayn I know my reason for not wanting to vote Sn0 at this point, what's yours? Also your reasoning for voting Onegu...is that any different than a policy lynch (ie my reasoning)? Essentially you complain to us that Onegu is tricky and plays like shit as scum or martyrs or whatever---essentially it amounts to you being unable to read him, yet here you're attempting to apply basic reasoning to why Onegu is playing how he is. I mean, I agree with your reasons but applied to any normal person I would say no rational player would play like he has.
I am not bragging about my activity. I am disgusted by the activity of nearly everyone in this game.
I don't really have reasons to not vote for Sno..
I am not voting Onegu as a policy. I am voting for him because he is making up reasons for me being scum - not trying to find them, he is voting for a guy who could by his own words only be scum if hz/Koshi is scum, he is outing witchcraft votes for no reason and his reads on other people are weak and shit. I have not had a trouble of reading him before, i have been using the "too dumb to be scum" argument for not lynching him before. I have had a scumread on him every single game he has been scum in.
Koshi is basically confirmed town and Hopeless is probably too rofl.
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