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On October 31 2013 12:36 OdinOfPergo wrote:
@ Balla, if you are referring to a Vane call as scum that Jonny wrote on PG 10... wtf are you talking about?
Because even if you are referring to his call out on Vane... It doesn't make any sense. And you'll here why when I get the chance to freaking post my reasoning behind my reads.
We've already hashed out why it doesn't make any sense, please don't do that. Doesn't change the fact that it's helpful (doesn't mean its not scummy) to town.
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Just please get to the interesting stuff and ignore everything else. I'd like to hear about the relevant topics right now, StorrZerg, Jonnylaw, July. Ignore everything else until you get those out.
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Just a reminder to everyone, this is majority lynch... we can't all be pushing multiple people. This isn't like the past 2 newbie games. Which is why i'm calling for everyone to please try to be relevant to the cases on hand. Don't try to swing votes for new/old/notcurrentlyintheradar suspects. Doing this is pretty anti-town, especially since nobody is really getting totally cleared of suspicion. We need focus now. If we don't get majority we don't get a lynch.
Odin: I feel like you're ignoring a lot of relevant discussion that we had on the cake subject, specifically thesehttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102¤tpage=14#269 2 post from me: where I state how there is no credence to the fact that he's "plain fucking lying". It was a reasonable mis-understanding, IMO.
Secondly, i'm not following how you got this idea:
So that makes..
Vanesco, Balla, OWB, Obzy, Storr, and myself all scum.
Well shit. I guess you better get to lynching.
from cake's post. Could you elaborate?
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Also, while I appreciate the case you're making for early game things. I would also appreciate if you would share your opinion on the following:
1. Obzy's case on Storr
2. Jonnylaw's case on Poofter.
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On October 31 2013 14:02 OdinOfPergo wrote:@ Balla, reading the page leads me to nothing. You give me a quote link to this; Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 07:21 Balla24 wrote:
Yeah, I originally thought the same thing about nyx being active, but I knew for a fact that nyx was in a different timezone, so I brushed it off. I'm surprised that Poofter didn't have the same reaction as you did.
I find it really odd that you point that out poofter as him "skewing facts into his favor" on that point since it feels like you're just skewing the facts into your favor there as well. The storrzerg thing though, is kind of interesting. I believe OWB misinterpreted that as well though (on the other side of things), i don't think it was fair for him to attack you on that. I'm not entirely sure what to think of this... please elaborate.
Hmm, yeah kind of hard to see, I was referring to that post and the following post from me, but regardless i'll just re-explain it:
When cake mentioned nyx being active in another subforum, it was because Jonnylaw pointed out that he is active in the LoL subforum (which he was just talking about that he visits that forum often) I had the initial reaction of "Oh, why the fuck isn't he posting here then", but then I went back on that since I knew nyxnyx's activity times from previous game. I can EASILY see how someone can misunderstand and think that jonnylaw was saying nyx was CURRENTLY active while the game was going on and was purposefully not posting. I did it myself, and I'm sure other people did it.
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I think you're missing this:
On October 30 2013 13:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
@cake Nah, I'm keeping that opinion to myself for a while. I'm not telling anyone how to play on day one.
Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him.
@storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games.
This is where cake got that idea. He's not fabricating shit. Anyways, my highest priority for you right now is your read on StorrZerg.
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On October 31 2013 14:30 OdinOfPergo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 14:22 Balla24 wrote:I think you're missing this: On October 30 2013 13:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
@cake Nah, I'm keeping that opinion to myself for a while. I'm not telling anyone how to play on day one.
Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him.
@storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games. This is where cake got that idea. He's not fabricating shit. Anyways, my highest priority for you right now is your read on StorrZerg. Alright, I don't understand apperently. What I get is; Nyx is supposedly active in Lol Subforum. I came to TL Mafia from LoL. I Play a lot of Lol. I could of missed something if he posted here, I admit. But I did not get any notice to anything new during this time period. I get a notification through the webs anytime someone post something new to any of the L.O.L. Sub forums I'm subbed too. I didn't see any notice for Nyx. If he posted somewhere else, PLEASE LINK ME TO IT. I'm -5 GMT (Indianapolis, Indiana) so bear that in mind. I didn't get a notice. Jonny claimed he was active in Lol sub-forum. .... .. .. .. .... I didn't get a notice. He wasn't active or he didn't post in a area that trips my auto response. Give me a link that shows he was active somewhere. Otherwise I will stick to my original statement and say Jonny's full of it.
No... jesus christ lol. Jonny knows for a fact that nyx POSTS in the LoL forums, so he was expecting him to post in this thread actively in the future. He wasn't claiming that he was currently active. Cake misunderstood this, thinking he WAS claiming that nyx was currently active so he called him out. That's all. Misunderstanding.
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Regardless, whether you don't understand it or not, i'd like you to forget about it because nobody is full of shit. Please share on Storr. Storr will probably be active soon as his show is ending within the next hr i think.
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Vonthin, i HATE those posts. I'd like you to address you top 2 scum reads with more detailed reasoning..
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On October 31 2013 15:09 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 15:06 Obzy wrote:I don't really expect to be sheeped; being confirmed doesn't exactly make my reads better, or more correct. You can just be certain that they're genuine lol. Storr, your post just now, once again, doesn't actually say anything about reads. It talks about general ideas in the game of mafia as a whole, but you don't seem to have opinions on anybody actually in the game except me because I'm IC. On October 31 2013 14:54 StorrZerg wrote:I would look closer at the people who are going buddy buddy with Obzy, agreeing with what ever he says. I don't really think anybody's done that yet - maybe Von, a little bit, with his read dump - but he's getting quite rightly lambasted for it. Rather, you actually haven't looked closely at anybody, you've merely stated that it would be wise to be wary of the people that are following the confirmed townie, because you yourself are currently that confirmed townie's target blah blah blah. Your recent post didn't actually say anything relevant to the game at hand, even though you're here, and capable of doing so. sheeping you as a mafia is a great way to stay under the radar and provide "content" with out actually doing anything. thinking its not a thing mafia would do is kinda stupid imo like you going on someone, they can follow with little back lash if they flip town, or if they flip mafia they get mega cred for helping to kill a mafia
Can't you simply say that what you are doing right now, discussing sheepign on the IC (when nobody in particular is doing this, although you might be trying to subtly jab at me, I can't tell) is exactly "a great way to stay under the radar and provide "content" without actually doing anything."
Who in particular do you think is doing what you're saying?
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Why is it a load of horse crap?
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Ok. I ask because it was the same opinion on cake that I had as well and we both previously posted it. Do you find it reasonable now?
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You won't be around till night?
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On October 31 2013 15:59 Vanesco wrote:
What are peoples opinions on E00e? He has done nothing to this game, has hidden from accusations, and is a lurker. It seems like everytime he is brought up people just forget about him.
I've posted my read on him... but you might be able to sway me dependent on his response tomorrow.
I don't think I can add anything more tonight, so I'm gonna head to sleep. I'll be on all day as usual :/
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On October 31 2013 23:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
once again this is a situation where timezones have a real effect. it's now 10 hours to deadline and we don't really have a clear consensus on who to vote for. i'll be around for a bit more but then i'll have to go to sleep before the rest of you guys scramble to vote in the last few hours.
i don't like how tehpoofter posts. minus the inactivity thing, he posts a lot more when called to defend himself and makes minimal probes on others, as if he doesn't want to overplay his hand and accidentally reveal something. as such, my vote will be for him right now.
##Vote: Tehpoofter
What make you change your mind on E00e? There have been a number of votes on him, why aren't you leaving your vote on him?
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JonnyLaw, do you really think you can get votes on Odin? At this point, you're the one throwing town into chaos by bringing up yet ANOTHER lynch target.
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On November 01 2013 02:01 July617 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:57 Balla24 wrote:
JonnyLaw, do you really think you can get votes on Odin? At this point, you're the one throwing town into chaos by bringing up yet ANOTHER lynch target. Sounds like a mafia play to me .
By who? Jonny or me?
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On November 01 2013 02:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:55 Balla24 wrote:On October 31 2013 23:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
once again this is a situation where timezones have a real effect. it's now 10 hours to deadline and we don't really have a clear consensus on who to vote for. i'll be around for a bit more but then i'll have to go to sleep before the rest of you guys scramble to vote in the last few hours.
i don't like how tehpoofter posts. minus the inactivity thing, he posts a lot more when called to defend himself and makes minimal probes on others, as if he doesn't want to overplay his hand and accidentally reveal something. as such, my vote will be for him right now.
##Vote: Tehpoofter What make you change your mind on E00e? There have been a number of votes on him, why aren't you leaving your vote on him? E00e was a crapshoot when i thought the voting was closing in 5 hours time. at that point E00e had pretty much nothing posted and was pretty much just a lurker vote for me to fulfill the 'must vote' condition.
Don't you think Poofter is pretty much the same crapshoot? What do you think of odin/jonnylaw.
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