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On October 29 2013 05:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't understand the suspicion on Koshi, to me it looks like a carbon copy of his play as town in Noir. Maybe a shade more reserved, but still relatively casual, low-content posts. All that's left is him blindly tunneling someone.
It's interesting that you should bring this up - I gave koshi a contentious (contentious to me, because I felt like I was going out on a limb) townread, because I couldn't believe that Koshi would be *so* passive as mafia. And I was right. The problem is that this game feels somewhere in between, where he's not *as* passive as he was in Noir, rather just wishy washy and non-committal while perhaps trying not to look like that. It all comes down to degrees and interpretation, and my interpretation was that it wasn't the same and that it's somewhat suspicious.
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EBWOP: *a contentious townread in Noir - kinda doesn't make sense otherwise ;p
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Tomorrow lynch should go like this:
Marv & rayn are currently townreads for most people. Marv has selected Promethelax as likely town and his trusted counselor. Pandain is eager to prove his townyness to rayn and I know rayn is confident in reading him. WoS can show off his eagerness as pro town loyalist and add his wise opinion which is respected by marv.
Then there are peasants who should add reasonable and smart opinions on the subjects of interest from the above 5. Sentinel will guard over the honesty with an ace in his pocket, Seuss seems intellectually qualified and eager, HotCottonCandy looks like he can come out of the shadow holding a shiny key and we can always count on Oats to bluntly state his opinion.
It will be fine.
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On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said.
I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave.
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On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave.
Really?
Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly?
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If people aren't convinced at what I'm getting at with Clarity, then they *must* go back and read Clarity's (admittedly long) and Oats' filter from Heavyweight Championship mafia.
Clarity had a scumread for Oats for a good chunk of the game and Oats ended up flipping town. This is all tempo relevant, and by that I mean Clarity literally just came from a game where he read Oats as mafia and he flipped town, and Oats looks better this game. It's more than just me thinking some random player shouldn't be finding Oats scummy, it's a very specific read based on a specific game that just happened.
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On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave. Really? Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly?
Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as.
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On October 28 2013 22:57 marvellosity wrote:Wave - The long and short of it is this, Wave - I think Prome is being too much of an arrogant ass to be mafia. Now, as you know, usually I have large reserves of faith in my powers (I can be arrogant ;p) but Prome is taking it to another level. So: Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
It takes remarkable confidence imo to propose creating a town circle with you at the head of it. I'm relating this back to me, but as mafia even I struggle to propose/say these sorts of things. Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:00 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, point I wanted to make about koshi saying oats was 3p for being able to be levelled up by non town:
Koshi is scum.
I'll leave this to another power upper to explain as it should show them I am town and show me they are town. Again with the ridiculous self-confidence. As if whatever his read is definitely makes him town, which it almost certainly doesn't. Townies rather than mafia tend to think "this SO makes me town" even when it doesn't. Toad is a prime example of this (say LIX, where his mason claim "confirmed" him town when it did no such thing). It's a double whammy because he also thinks that someone else with a power explaining it to him will make him town. All of this seems hard to fake as mafia. Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:30 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 14:20 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 14:08 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
Oats, why should I power you up? You think I am scum for a bad reason and are generally a silky bastard who I would not give roles to this early. Remember carnival cruise where you never crumbed your cop checks and in death cleared a scum? You can stay powerless thanks. If you think everyone should be powered why have you not powered me and Marv? The two best payers with power up abilities.
Pandain, the fick are you doing? Why announce your return and vanish again. ##twerkSince when are you good at blue Prome. I really dont expect this from you prome. You shit on me for no reason, and you havent called me scum yet, but arent willing to argue your reads with me or do anything to convince people that someone else is scum. You should power me because you think Im town and you havent said im scum. I don't think you are scum. I think you are town. Two reasons I won't power you: 1 is [redacted due to ongoing game] 2 you don't need a power role right now. There are few people who use day 1 power roles really well and you aren't one, if you were mod confirmed town I'd give you power but the risk reward between giving a scum you power and a town you power is not worth it. Since forever am I good at blue. Look at my MS games or chronotrigger or...that might be all my blue games. What. You wont give me powers because you think Im bad? Non of my powers can hurt town, but they are nice to have. If you think Im town, there is literally no reason to not give me powers. I'm not sure I can be clearer, I think you are town lets out a number to it (this will make the rest of this example easier to show you) I'm 65% sure you are town. There is a 35% chance you are scum. I believe that the way you would use a power role as scum would benefit your team at least twice as much as the way you using your power role as town would benefit your team. Thus I chose not to power you up because I felt the cost benefit analysis suggested that voting you would be more helpful to scum than to town. Rayn, weigh In Here, am I being clear? Y/n Yes, and i think you think alike me regarding the powers. Could you give me an updated read on Pandain? I could but its too early to be clear with each other. Lets play a game: This post is the one I find most alignment indicative Tell me why and which alignment I think he is I think this post is pretty bad, and his subsequent reasoning for it isn't fantastic either (it's a little superficial in my opinion). But again, I see it as town bad. See again how it's like he's framing it that OTHER townies can show their alignment to HIM by working out what he's talking about. Again, hard to fake as mafia. These are the prime examples, but generally his filter reads as him being way too arrogant, assuming the townleader position, seeing things and quizzing others to see if they see the same as him ----> they are town. I think that's all quite impressive if he's mafia.
Yeah looking over this again, I completely disagree with the first point, and your second point is the best.
Problem here is this absolutely does not preclude Prome from being something like 3P, but it is certainly enough to be sure he is not a good vote choice for today, which I was coming around to anyway.
I'm way too paranoid to give either him OR you a townread right now though I can say with a fair amount of confidence that there is no way you are both scum.
##Unvote: Promethelax
##Vote: OOHCHILD
I'm happy with this as a placeholder if nothing else.
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you're pretty lame this game WoS.
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On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
If people aren't convinced at what I'm getting at with Clarity, then they *must* go back and read Clarity's (admittedly long) and Oats' filter from Heavyweight Championship mafia.
Clarity had a scumread for Oats for a good chunk of the game and Oats ended up flipping town. This is all tempo relevant, and by that I mean Clarity literally just came from a game where he read Oats as mafia and he flipped town, and Oats looks better this game. It's more than just me thinking some random player shouldn't be finding Oats scummy, it's a very specific read based on a specific game that just happened.
It could simply be one of those cases where a certain playstyle irks you the wrong way and you always find them scummy regardless. I went back and read that filter at your discretion and that is what it felt like to me more. Clarity_nl simply despises Oatsmaster's playstyle and it seems will always find him scummy regardless of what he does. I am not ready to vote for him based on another game.
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On October 29 2013 09:09 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
If people aren't convinced at what I'm getting at with Clarity, then they *must* go back and read Clarity's (admittedly long) and Oats' filter from Heavyweight Championship mafia.
Clarity had a scumread for Oats for a good chunk of the game and Oats ended up flipping town. This is all tempo relevant, and by that I mean Clarity literally just came from a game where he read Oats as mafia and he flipped town, and Oats looks better this game. It's more than just me thinking some random player shouldn't be finding Oats scummy, it's a very specific read based on a specific game that just happened. It could simply be one of those cases where a certain playstyle irks you the wrong way and you always find them scummy regardless. I went back and read that filter at your discretion and that is what it felt like to me more. Clarity_nl simply despises Oatsmaster's playstyle and it seems will always find him scummy regardless of what he does. I am not ready to vote for him based on another game.
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I posted "test" to determine the timezone of the time stamp that accompanies each post.
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On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave. Really? Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly? Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as.
I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential.
Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv.
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On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave. Really? Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly? Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as. I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential. Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv.
I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.
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On October 29 2013 09:11 OOHCHILD wrote:
I posted "test" to determine the timezone of the time stamp that accompanies each post.
Why are you so obsessed with timezones?
And right as we talk about smurfslips.
LOL.
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On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave. Really? Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly? Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as. I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential. Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv. I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.
Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.
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On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave. Really? Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly? Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as. I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential. Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv. I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes. Too bad. If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.
You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.
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HotCottonCandy, now you're exposed, would you mind telling us why you decided to smurf?
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