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On October 29 2013 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Let me be more clear. This is what you say: Show nested quote +Largely because of how you've generally been extremely evasive about it. Like I said before, when Pandain brought it up you didn't say, "This shouldn't seem scummy to you." You said, "But you got on my case because of my other action." which can't really be called a response despite all the heat Pandain's taken. This is what i have been saying all the time: Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Pandain this has gone to role fishing. Stop it already. There is nothing alignment indicative in my role use, at least nothing scummy. Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 08:52 Pandain wrote:
I don't want your role, I think it's suspicious for a blue to reveal its effects to an unverified character.
You can't possibly say that if you do not know the effects. Now explain. Please.
On October 29 2013 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I said at first he was rolefishing, because to me it sounded like (1) he wanted to know if i actually did use a power or not or (2) if i did, based on what he said earlier, he was rolefishing (because somehow it would be scummy for me to use a power).
Fair point. The one post I quoted really stuck in my mind because of how far apart your response was from his inquiry, but your response is reasonable given your posts which preceded it. I can't really find any further fault beyond my general predisposition against the massive power reveal at the start, which is something of a personal preference and not an argument.
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Kinda...yeas I'm torn. Not that I'm very against the clarity lynch but well, Jesus look at the filter. And the cognitive dissonance is stunningly obvious, actually, I've convinced myself.
##Vote: OOOHCHILD
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On October 28 2013 16:32 OOHCHILD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 15:57 OOHCHILD wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I have an important question for those who have not yet fully claimed.
Could your power belong to either town or mafia? Mine could. I would like to ask a counter-questions (which should answer yours aswell). What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments? Also why is this so important? After I answer you, this conversation is done as far as I am concerned. Just know that you should not expect me to answer any follow up questions you have. I don't know. I do not trust you to understand this complicated idea, so I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it. Nice to meet you Raynpelikoneet. Your name sounds like it belongs to a species of beautiful, tropical parrot!
This is his one post of content and it delivers nothing to the game.
I'm leaving for swim practice, I'll leave my vote on this one for the evening and hope he comes back
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On October 29 2013 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
Kinda...yeas I'm torn. Not that I'm very against the clarity lynch but well, Jesus look at the filter. And the cognitive dissonance is stunningly obvious, actually, I've convinced myself.
##Vote: OOOHCHILD
I'll help with the pressure. We had a bunch of people like this in my last game and it honestly killed a lot of the fun. Hopefully he comes make a better accounting of himself.
##Vote: OOHCHILD
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ima take a nap. hopefully i'll be back in ~3h.
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##Day 1 ##Vote ##Count
raynpelikoneet (0): Pandain
Promethelax (1): WaveofShadow
Pandain (3): raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, OOHCHILD
[UoN]Sentinel (1): HotCottonCandy
Clarity_nl (2): marvellosity, Pandain
OOHCHILD (3): Promethelax, [UoN]Sentinel, Seuss
Not voting (3): Koshi, strongandbig, Clarity_nl
Currently, Pandain is set to be ##lynched!
The ##lynch will happen in ## at ##21:00 GMT (+00:00).
Please let us know if there are ##errors.
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I am not too happy to vote OOHCHILD. I am hoping cool things will happen with Sentinel and WoS power. I know I am somewhat less involved but I didn't get feels yet in this game. This is were I am/my gameplan.
Promethelax + Show Spoiler +Strange case on me by "misunderstanding" me. I replied and he gave me a town read, which is towny because he could have just put me on null. His analysis on Pandain giving up that omgus game (which I don't understand how to read btw, it has 3 pages?) was pretty strange. It was on Koshi level, which means that even I felt that it was a bit wonky. Null tbh, but I am not going to vote a 5 page filter guy today unless he starts to be really scummy.
WaveofShadow + Show Spoiler +Good points for WoS are:
1) his case on Prome which is something nice to read. Just makes sense when you read it.
2) Him giving Seuss a townread without any bullshit. It gives me the vibe that WoS wants to steer town in the right direction by saying "don't look at Seuss, he has my seal of approval, I know the guy, don't waste time on him just yet".
Bad points:
Top 2 posts of page 3 in his filter are not good, he lost me there. Something about not knowing who to vote for now while being unclear about Clarity which was a hot discussion. And then building up on that saying something about rayn and I not being bros this game and some things about his Ver-skills around Clarity. I don't know what that was all about. I would say he was startled by the votes piling on Clarity and his first post on page 3 of his filter is trying to put some suspicion on 2 other guys where I am one of them but meh.
But I am pretty sure he will pick it up again. I also want to know what his super pro town power is.
Pandain + Show Spoiler +
[UoN]Sentinel + Show Spoiler +See what his power gives, when he kills town we revisit his filter and the case on him. If he kills scum we dance with joy and call him jeebus. Anything else and we are mad. Countdown = nuke or New Year but that doesn't start on 15.
Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler +Going to give him a townread. I like his activity and his posting. Extra bonus, Seuss described Oats his town meta in his case on Oats.
strongandbig + Show Spoiler +Pfff. Was pretty town in Thug and flipped red. I can read him if you all get angry and force me to read him. I don't want to atm
OOHCHILD + Show Spoiler +You shouldn't be in this game. I will be kicking and screaming in the future that hosts don't allow people like this to join games. I allow smurfs if they state they are smurfs. Nothing else to say.
marvellosity + Show Spoiler +townread, everybody his townread, sheeping him is considered pro-town. I might do that.
Seuss + Show Spoiler +The main thing I like about Seuss is that WoS gives him a townread. Which is pretty insane. If WoS is town there is no reason for him to give Seuss a free pass + we can trust his honest judgement. If WoS is scum, I doubt he would give his scumbuddy such a strong townread, more likely Seuss is town anyway when WoS is scum .
Second thing I like about Seuss is his posting. It's frequent & easy on the eyes. He comes straight out of noobie games so I can see his early game posting as noob scum bravery, but his posts are too detailed and sexy to be coming from scum
Clarity_nl + Show Spoiler +Dnu what's up with him. Can I say I am disappointed Clarity? Your case on Oats is so lifeless, it doesn't give me the feeling you might be right and Oats is scum. And I reread it 2 times because I would like to find scum in you but I decided it is just not Clarity worthy.
HotCottonCandy + Show Spoiler +dnu except that it is DI. I could read filter later on but I really don't feel like doing it atm.
raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +rayn is awesome. Will sheep if he asks.
So I am sad that there are no scums in this game. OOHCHILD and Clarity might be scum, but really, that's so easy and then who is the third? It's not Koshi, I can tell you that with 100% certainty.
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Wait Rayn you still have a vote on me? You honestly think I'm mafia? All the reasoning is pretty retarded except for my posting without meds
Koshi sheeps you so vote Clarity
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Also Koshi I have a power to make you lose your vote so I would vote with a brain and actually decide for yourself who is mafia
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4eva? Or just this lynch?
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Why don't you want to vote OOOChild
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Still busy for the next little bit but checking in:
Didn't believe me that OOHCHILD is a smurf? The 'test' is in all likelihood a check to make sure he was posting on the right account. I wouldn't feel bad policy lynching that shit if for no other reason than to show it's doable on TL. His case goes beyond simple lurker lynch imo and would not be a bad choice.
Rayn/koshi---i don't really understand how you're both so surprised about my comment. No offense but ever since Persona I've found the two of your town combination real annoying, and I was thinking that since a lot of people have scumreads on koshi it may mean they're not both town---hence the not being butt-buddies this game.
Koshi's list post gives me pause however; I think he MAY be town for it but I have to gather my thoughts and still post re: Prome when I can. I may just end up on the safe route and take OOHCHILD because I'm not sold on Clarity like I've said.
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@sentinel yes I'm a smurf but lets be honest here I am not using meta against anyone so it's not like I have a leg up. I'm simply pressuring you for your actions so far. Could you give me some scumreads or something that bothers you or anything?
I don't really have a problem with cleaning out the rifraff either and I'll gladly vote for OOHCHILD. it's essentially a random lynch with a bias towards someone being intentionally useless and I have no qualms about that.
sadface to koshi's list, pretty contentless bar a few people like WaveofShadow and Seuss. Decent enough I guess.
@Pandain I have a hard time believing you could make cases and write in detail yesterday while on meds. Seems like a strange excuse but whatever. Not here to judge on that kind of stuff but if it comes down to the wire it certainly wont help you.
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The only problem with the post is it effectively said nothing except town reads( which can easily change).
The points are good but the timing is weird to me because I don't know what it did
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Off meds, I have anxiety/adhd which can lead to a bad combination
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On October 29 2013 08:22 Pandain wrote:
The only problem with the post is it effectively said nothing except town reads( which can easily change).
The points are good but the timing is weird to me because I don't know what it did
Except that's what town Koshi does. Did it during the RNG discussion in Thug.
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I guess my main concern with Koshi as of now is he's playing very different from his previous town games. Other then that not much suspicious behavior which can't be explained by Koshi being Koshi.
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I don't mind OOOChild or Clarity, I think there are strong cases on both of them. I will also add that Child has clearly been here, and there's no real town justification for a smurf to avoid posting like this.
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