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VisceraEyes
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:35 VisceraEyes wrote: You're gonna need to take a number.Give me some votes guys, I need incentive to do something in this game. Whether you actually want to lynch me or not, the pro-town thing is to put votes on me until I contribute something. Thanks for your cooperation in this matter. VE I don't care if you're not motivated, give me something...neat. A weird kooky read. A post that really caught your attention but you don't know what to do with it. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
![]() I'm working on it austin just bear with me. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
I can't believe austin you still don't see how scummy Vayne has been with absolutely shit votes with no follow-up, huge set-up speculation which honestly can't be done unless you have inside knowledge, backtracks, no actual content despite 8 fucking pages of filter , and the such. How can you think he's objectively a better lynch then a Palmar who honestly I think might just be retarded. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I slightly like this set of posts: On September 30 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Just because they point out something neat, show that he's actually reading. There are paranoid counterpoints to that but for now I'm going to read that in a townie way and not in a hyper-observant about someone calling out scumbuddy way.Thats not the point. Its hard for me to explain. But its really odd. Also still really just like this post: On October 02 2013 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote: It's part joking, probably part not, and just a general throwaway post but one that, in my head, is an uncomfortable post for scum to make or something they don't automatically think of.If Im FT in the position he is in, I would totally take a scumshot because it means someone better than me doesnt get shot. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:39 Pandain wrote: Call it woman's intuition?I had a town read on VE through his posts. I can't believe austin you still don't see how scummy Vayne has been with absolutely shit votes with no follow-up, huge set-up speculation which honestly can't be done unless you have inside knowledge, backtracks, no actual content despite 8 fucking pages of filter , and the such. How can you think he's objectively a better lynch then a Palmar who honestly I think might just be retarded. Palmar's not retarded, and I start to worry about players who have been around a long time, start with a somewhat townie D1, and then tail off. Even if he's retarded, he can still be scum. Being retarded doesn't guarantee you a green or blue PM. VA is speculating a good bit after getting a scumread on him in part because of speculation. I know when I've been scum I've been scared off of certain actions when I did something and a townie called it scummy, I wanted to stop doing that. Continuing to speculate over NKs feels townie to me because of that, although not a boatload if this is actually his normal MO in all games. He's just not as scumtastic as other folks to me right now. I know he's doing some things that aren't helping town, but almost ALL of us are doing that, and I feel like we can poke around a level deeper than that. | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
A lot of the other stuff people are ignoring because that is my town meta whether you like it or not. You are basically just perfectly describing my town meta right now. So your case is kinda just helping me, as a heads up. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:39 Pandain wrote: I don't mean to imply he's the lurkiest lurker that ever did lurk.Palmar besides that has been playing as town, I don't think he's as lurkery as you think. But his posting is on subjects that I don't think matter. He's got a boatload of posts today on his VOTE yesterday. Palmar shouldn't care about his vote yesterday. Mislynches happen. Vote switches happen. He's not even getting serious votes or anything for it. But he spends forever going over the ins and outs of voting and bovine reproduction or whatever else. His activity, in cases like that, is about subjects that just don't matter as far as scumhunting goes. Plus again. You both have Pa- names. Someone gots to go. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:45 austinmcc wrote: Call it woman's intuition? Palmar's not retarded, and I start to worry about players who have been around a long time, start with a somewhat townie D1, and then tail off. Even if he's retarded, he can still be scum. Being retarded doesn't guarantee you a green or blue PM. VA is speculating a good bit after getting a scumread on him in part because of speculation. I know when I've been scum I've been scared off of certain actions when I did something and a townie called it scummy, I wanted to stop doing that. Continuing to speculate over NKs feels townie to me because of that, although not a boatload if this is actually his normal MO in all games. He's just not as scumtastic as other folks to me right now. I know he's doing some things that aren't helping town, but almost ALL of us are doing that, and I feel like we can poke around a level deeper than that. But his logic has also been bad which leads me to believe that he could honestly just be lacking. I'm sure he is a good player in many games, but I'm not impressed at all by what I've been seeing. VA is not just suspicious based on speculation though of course he's scummy. Look at other filters and look at Vayne's. Per content Vayne has 8 pages of filter yet very few actual content . This is scummy at the core. Posting a lot but with no content. Town Vayne here in Persona: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&user=VayneAuthority&view=all Notice how he pushes reads. He doesn't do that this game. He votes Grack and is suspicious of Palmar and I and yet didn't push us for all. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:46 VayneAuthority wrote: if you want people to take you seriously Pandain, start by not being a hypocrite. You can't say my voting is scummy when we were both on town the entire game. It doesn't work like that. A lot of the other stuff people are ignoring because that is my town meta whether you like it or not. You are basically just perfectly describing my town meta right now. So your case is kinda just helping me, as a heads up. I think you are playing a good scum game but your role speculation which isn't sensible and logical unless you have inside knowledge reveals you. Additionally your lack of pushing reveals you. It's day three and you say usually by now you're fitting pieces together and you're dangerous in the end-game. It's 8-5 town/scum ratio. Where's your end-game fitting in? All I see is an easy vote on FT. On October 04 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote: I don't mean to imply he's the lurkiest lurker that ever did lurk. But his posting is on subjects that I don't think matter. He's got a boatload of posts today on his VOTE yesterday. Palmar shouldn't care about his vote yesterday. Mislynches happen. Vote switches happen. He's not even getting serious votes or anything for it. But he spends forever going over the ins and outs of voting and bovine reproduction or whatever else. His activity, in cases like that, is about subjects that just don't matter as far as scumhunting goes. Plus again. You both have Pa- names. Someone gots to go. I'm not as concerned about Pa's due to the fact that I know what I post. I also think we should actually lynch scum, and my reasons for lynching Palmar are too policy oriented(although there are some good suspicions) to justify me voting him and to justify you voting him. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
[QUOTE]On October 04 2013 08:39 Pandain wrote: I had a town read on VE through his posts. I can't believe austin you still don't see how scummy Vayne has been with absolutely shit votes with no follow-up, huge set-up speculation which honestly can't be done unless you have inside knowledge, backtracks, no actual content despite 8 fucking pages of filter , and the such. VA is speculating a good bit after getting a scumread on him in part because of speculation. I know when I've been scum I've been scared off of certain actions when I did something and a townie called it scummy, I wanted to stop doing that. Continuing to speculate over NKs feels townie to me because of that, although not a boatload if this is actually his normal MO in all games. [/QUOTE] He also stopped speculating after I called him out on it | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:45 austinmcc wrote: VA is speculating a good bit after getting a scumread on him in part because of speculation. I know when I've been scum I've been scared off of certain actions when I did something and a townie called it scummy, I wanted to stop doing that. Continuing to speculate over NKs feels townie to me because of that, although not a boatload if this is actually his normal MO in all games. He also stopped speculating after I called him out on it | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On October 04 2013 08:54 Pandain wrote: I think you are playing a good scum game but your role speculation which isn't sensible and logical unless you have inside knowledge reveals you. Additionally your lack of pushing reveals you. It's day three and you say usually by now you're fitting pieces together and you're dangerous in the end-game. It's 8-5 town/scum ratio. Where's your end-game fitting in? All I see is an easy vote on FT. I'm not as concerned about Pa's due to the fact that I know what I post. I also think we should actually lynch scum, and my reasons for lynching Palmar are too policy oriented(although there are some good suspicions) to justify me voting him and to justify you voting him. An easy vote isn't necessarily wrong. It's easy for a reason. He martyred and left the game. As others have stated, if you martyr there is nothing else that will take my vote off of you. Some one else could claim scum in the thread and I would still have my vote on the martyr. Nothing else pisses me off more. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On October 04 2013 09:04 VayneAuthority wrote: An easy vote isn't necessarily wrong. It's easy for a reason. He martyred and left the game. As others have stated, if you martyr there is nothing else that will take my vote off of you. Some one else could claim scum in the thread and I would still have my vote on the martyr. Nothing else pisses me off more. Ignore that for the most part, I'm more concerned with the Grack vote and the failure to actually push or prod me palmar or Grack . You voted Grack but never advocated for him. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Also, it's not pure policy. I just disagree here, because I don't think the activity Palmar has shown has done much to help town. A lot of his posts are just posts to me, they don't push or pull or DO, and he's happy to just sit back and let today happen, meaning basically a day and a half of lynches that Palmar doesn't care about. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
Palmar is suspicious due to a poor vote switch, but that vote switch was a huge role and impacted the lynch. That is contribution. I'm more interested in seeing what he does today then lynching him immediately. I won't say what I'm looking for in case he deliberately changes his playstyle, but there are definitely ways to read him later which aren't immediately obvious now. | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On October 04 2013 09:05 Pandain wrote: Ignore that for the most part, I'm more concerned with the Grack vote and the failure to actually push or prod me palmar or Grack . You voted Grack but never advocated for him. grack was playing exactly the same way as in golden sun and this is only my 2nd game with him so I don't know his town game. Associated it with him being scum again, but it appears he plays both alignments similarly. The pushing thing is repetitive and boring, as stated multiple times it is not alignment indicative in the slightest. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On October 04 2013 09:09 VayneAuthority wrote: grack was playing exactly the same way as in golden sun and this is only my 2nd game with him so I don't know his town game. Associated it with him being scum again, but it appears he plays both alignments similarly. The pushing thing is repetitive and boring, as stated multiple times it is not alignment indicative in the slightest. So you're just going to vote someone and hope they get lynched? When you voted Grack you immediately got called out by two players, and never pushed him further. Palmar never got voted and only vote on me was by you. | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On October 04 2013 09:12 Pandain wrote: So you're just going to vote someone and hope they get lynched? When you voted Grack you immediately got called out by two players, and never pushed him further. Palmar never got voted and only vote on me was by you. well you miss the point on how I play town I don't get people lynched, I just make sure I don't get lynched. | ||
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