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Pandain
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SnB being related to Firmtofu is flawed. On October 03 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote: anyways vote for firmtofu, SnB's flip says a lot about him ##vote: Firmtofu On October 03 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Grack reads: - Koshi town, Hiro scum, Palmar scum. Hiro reads: - not a whole lot - suspicion on Oats, SnB, Pandain, Shiao, maybe Palmar? SnB Reads like a hella bus of FT and a way to back down from Shiao. I can't believe FT lynch has had so much resistance over the entire game. OH WAIT I CAN IT'S BECAUSE HE'S SCUM Let's look at that SnB post. On October 02 2013 00:06 strongandbig wrote: These vote counts are the best thing ever. I don't like how the shiaopi wagon has just defused without anyone ever actually defending him. Wos and co have given legitimate reasons why they think ft is more likely to flip scum than shiaopi, so that's okay. Although I really don't like koshi's complete indifference to which one of the two gets lynched. What I don't see is any evidence that the people voting for vayne have actually put any reasoning into why he's a better lynch than shiaopi. Or even than FT, in some cases. ChairmanRay - you have explained why you don't want to lynch tofu, but why did you vote vayne instead of shiaopi? Why is vayne more likely to flip scum than shiaopi is? Pandain - why are you voting VA over tofu? You said earlier you thought tofu was scum and have reasons for it. Tofu - did you do that filter diving like you said you would? Why'd you unvote shiaopi and then vote vayne? Right now I'd rather lynch tofu than vayne, and will vote accordingly if necessary. The tofu case from wos is just more persuasive to me than the mini cases on vayne from pandain and ray. That said, shiaopi is my preferred lynch over either of those, and I don't understand why or how this push went away, so I'm keeping my vote there for now. Does anyone else not see a bus at all? He laid suspicion on primarily SP and the only thing he said was that FT was a good case, which scum would do anyway if they felt someone was suspicious. Laying suspicion on someone as scum doesn't actually indicate whether that person is scum or not as heavily as you guys think. Other things which I can't sum up in a convieniant title On October 02 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Before I go, let's remind us all of a few things: Vote analysis - can't find a time where FT wasn't just voting along with popular sentiment at the time. The VA vote is HUGE evidence of this because VA was never in any real danger of getting lynched, yet FT assumed that because a whole bunch of people piled on him at once, it was safe. His reaction to the shenanigans: Apparently it's extremely confusing to FT that people decided to vote his 'scumread' rather than him. And I know I'm one to defend people's emotions and whatnot but I'm sorry, I just don't believe this. Honestly, the second quote is more believable than the first. Don't ask me why, just goin' on guts. I'm going to keep pushing VA and FT for scum until I die tonight, and then you guys can forget about my reads just like you do for every other confirmed townie! I'm not using my vest. Scum, it's your call. Apparently I'm not exactly a threat this game since people won't listen but if you're still scurred of me I'm a free range fucking turkey. Saying he votes with the majority a lot of the times isn't surprising when he was up for lynch day two and day one Yamato was suspicious and FT consistantly agreed with RNG lynch. That's shitty reasoning and you know it. It's been two days. He reacted that way because he thought he was going to get lynched and then literally in the last minute 4:59 he was saved by two vote switches. FT posting little is a myth he's posted fine for his previous meta, Vayne is a better choice. | ||
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On September 30 2013 10:17 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't see why you actually take the time to address that "scumslip" unless you have some serious inherent guilt On September 30 2013 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote: Actually there is a fairly large difference, addressing a good/strong argument is a necessity. defending yourself against a "scumslip" at a time when everybody was just bullshitting is inherent guilt. I don't know what to make of it though since as far as I can tell he is a very passive/apologetic player. On September 30 2013 10:24 VayneAuthority wrote: I'm backtracking though since for him as a player it doesn't necessarily say anything. It's better to look at the timeline of what happens http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897¤tpage=83#1658. He lays suspicion on HP, I call him out on it, he backtracks in very short time. He then goes AFK for 5 hours later. To me he was either trying to throw in suspicion so as to create discord but didn't actually have evidence so he backtracked, or he somehow got a conclusion and then disagreed with himself despite there clearly not being enough time for a good read of HP's filter to re-analyze HP. | ||
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austinmcc
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I like VE lynch. I like Palmar lynch. I like solstice posting more. I still don't like Koshi. VE and Palmar both fall under similar rubrick, where they are active at times (VE D1, Palmar part of D1, time to argue with Rayn) but generally absent and not affecting the game at all. They've got bulletproof vests (unless they're scum). Palmar smells with his being entirely ambivalent about the lynch, never pushing anything, and generally just sitting in the background. VE smells for basically doing jack, smells slightly slightly slightly for pushing Hiro so hard but that could be perfectly legitimate, but generally just being a nothingmaster. Palmar also generally absent as far as DOING things goes, being more than just a presence. Some activity D1, some fighting with Rayn, but otherwise just ambivalence about a lynch and ambivalence about the game in general. In the interest of having only one Pa- poster ##vote: Palmar I think that leaving votes on FT and just mucking about "maybe FT maybe not FT" is a bad way to spend this day (Just like it was a bad way for me to afk 24 hours of it). If we just chat about FT and argue about him, we're losing a day and I honestly think that's a mislynch. FT has done diddly in response to pressure, yes. It makes him look worse, yes. But I don't actually think he's scum, and even if he is, there are....other scum? It's more productive to chase other scum right now, imo, if that makes sense. Solstice, keep posting. | ||
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When called out for being a cop by MULTIPLE players on D2, Koshi the Cop goes "OH SHIT MY COVER IS BLOWN IF SO MANY PEOPLE KNOW I'M COP THEN SCUM CERTAINLY KNOW CUZ THERE ARE 6 OF EM" Cop Koshi then tries to play. Tries to give reads. Tries to influence the game. Because holy crap Cop Koshi is going to get GOT overnight with what we think is 3 KP available to scum. Koshi did NOT play D2 that way. If you think Koshi is a cop, you're a silly goose, but in a way that's bad for town, not a fun silly goose. I would really <3 it if people who have townreads on the Koshisaurus would state explicitly, today, why they feel he townie. I don't think he is. Maybe he is, but I'd like to see these rationales, and I'd REALLY like to know if there's someone still going HE A COP HE A COP (p.s. I actually find VE's insistence on Kop Koshi one thing that is scummy about him, because towards the end of the day it became super apparent that Koshi was not playing like an outed cop. VE didn't adjust that, hasn't spoken up on Koshi (or anything). I also don't put it past scumVE to finger someone as a cop, then not shoot them, just to be able to fall back on "If I were scum, we would have shot Koshi cuz he's a cop") | ||
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On October 04 2013 08:25 VayneAuthority wrote: He's not even hard defending though, he's hard defending WITH VIGOR.actually it makes him scummier austin, but I still can't say anything. ffs... I don't know pandain's play from Adam's, but in general I find someone who's going back to past games and posting about them, actually using them, as well as posting this much and this hard about someone, to be a townie thang. Especially when he's getting NO traction with it, there's currently no payoff, nobody talking with him, nobody to convince, it's just posting a read into a vacuum and hoping to do something with it. You find it defending el scumbuddiero? Or just a ton of activity on a single subject concerning a read you disagree with? | ||
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austinmcc
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VA I don't want to lynch today. He might be scum but he might not! Right now I want to keep him around, at the very least he's sometimes contributing, moreso than other folks. coughcough kill VE and Palmar. Post so wishy washy! | ||
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Pandain
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On October 02 2013 04:59 Palmar wrote: We can just lynch him tomorrow Today is about making rayn look bad. | ||
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