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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^

Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2014 00:23 GMT
#641
like what? you just force him to post it and if he says no you lynch him
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 00:41:00
February 10 2014 00:31 GMT
#642
On February 10 2014 09:22 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 09:15 Coagulation wrote:
On February 10 2014 08:19 yamato77 wrote:
There's quite clearly an easy way to ban the "townie seal" sort of thing. A player may not, over the course of many games, develop a symbol or tell that he knowingly uses ONLY AS TOWN because of the detrimental effect to his play as mafia and to the unfair nature of said tell.

Grush had the same thing and it was equally stupid. I'm all for banning it. It isn't WIFOM, it's just a cop out.


Good luck enforcing that shit bbycakes

You post the seal, you get modkilled.

ezpz


Ok I upgraded my mechanics
My first post will simply say "Town or Scum" and nothing else.
I will claim only scum as town
I will claim only town as scum

good luck explaining to gmarsh that I was modkilled for saying im town as scum and getting taken seriously.

BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 10 2014 00:43 GMT
#643
On February 10 2014 08:30 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm not mad about the seal, I just wanted coag to post or talk so I could have a reason to hard defend him against grack and lynch grack instead. If the rest of the game has played out the same, we would have won. No guarantee, but another bullet would have helped our chances that game.

I loved when they brought up the seal. I hope coag never posts the seal again and people lynch him for it. One day, the game will come, where coag will post that seal as mafia and you will all be fucked. It may not be anytime soon, but one day it will happen. Coag might even disagree, but he will cave eventually. And I will be there. And I will be laughing.


tbh that seal thing isnt why I wanted to lynch him. His complete general apathy to the game and never doing shit all is what made me want to kill him. He appeared randomly and didnt seem to really care. Tbh he fit a similar bill to balla after balla's "campaign" post day 1.

He also mirrored your play in thread, and mocstas for the most part in thread. (i know you were both active in pms but compared to thread play you were both lackluster)

Your entire team was horrible for it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
February 10 2014 00:48 GMT
#644
We'd have lynched him either way. seal is stupid though
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
February 10 2014 03:22 GMT
#645
Everyone pushing to ban Coag for a "seal" is an idiot. YOU CANNOT BAN FOR WIFOM.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18475 Posts
February 10 2014 11:27 GMT
#646
This whole discussion is retarded. If someone doesn't want to play as scum, there is really no way of enforcing it. Plenty of people get caught out as scum, because they just plain give up. Are we going to be dishing out bans for those people as well?

Starsenses, baby seals, etc. etc. aren't bannable: they're policy lynch material. Deal with it ingame, not by QQing on the ban list.

kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
February 10 2014 12:41 GMT
#647
On February 10 2014 05:00 Coagulation wrote:
so where do we draw the line kush? is it against the rules to go in your bathroom to take a shit because that time could be optimally used at the computer to further your win condition?


Well you could argue that inactivity helps your win condition as scum, but refusing to post the seal in no way helps your win condition. Think of it this way. The seal strategy can only hurt your overall winrate as scum. This metastrategy hurts your scum win rate in exchange for helping your town winrate.

I know it's similar to the starsenses thing, but grush was able to use the starsenes to his advantage as scum, by altering it slightly (not making it green) and thus invalidating it without anyone knowing. You can't really do that with the seal.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18475 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 12:52:07
February 10 2014 12:51 GMT
#648
On February 10 2014 21:41 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 05:00 Coagulation wrote:
so where do we draw the line kush? is it against the rules to go in your bathroom to take a shit because that time could be optimally used at the computer to further your win condition?


Well you could argue that inactivity helps your win condition as scum, but refusing to post the seal in no way helps your win condition. Think of it this way. The seal strategy can only hurt your overall winrate as scum. This metastrategy hurts your scum win rate in exchange for helping your town winrate.

I know it's similar to the starsenses thing, but grush was able to use the starsenes to his advantage as scum, by altering it slightly (not making it green) and thus invalidating it without anyone knowing. You can't really do that with the seal.

Just because you're not creative. He could open it in photoshop and slightly change the colors, or open it in a hex editor and change some hexes of the jpeg to read I AM SCUM in an obscure corner of the image.

Or, he could just screw with his meta and not post it as town to fuck people up. How about you scumhunt in games instead of relying on cheap tricks to help you. The only reason starsenses or baby seals work is because other players in the game are too dumb/lazy to scumhunt for real.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
February 10 2014 14:27 GMT
#649
If he did any of the things you suggested, no one would ever trust one of his seals again. So therefore he would never do that, because the point of the seal is to confirm him town.

And this topic has nothing to do with anyone being "too dumb/lazy to scumhunt for real."
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2014 14:31 GMT
#650
On February 10 2014 21:41 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 05:00 Coagulation wrote:
so where do we draw the line kush? is it against the rules to go in your bathroom to take a shit because that time could be optimally used at the computer to further your win condition?


Well you could argue that inactivity helps your win condition as scum, but refusing to post the seal in no way helps your win condition. Think of it this way. The seal strategy can only hurt your overall winrate as scum. This metastrategy hurts your scum win rate in exchange for helping your town winrate.

I know it's similar to the starsenses thing, but grush was able to use the starsenes to his advantage as scum, by altering it slightly (not making it green) and thus invalidating it without anyone knowing. You can't really do that with the seal.

He never did this.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 10 2014 14:44 GMT
#651
On February 10 2014 23:27 kushm4sta wrote:
If he did any of the things you suggested, no one would ever trust one of his seals again. So therefore he would never do that, because the point of the seal is to confirm him town.

And this topic has nothing to do with anyone being "too dumb/lazy to scumhunt for real."

This topic is 100% "I don't wanna scumhunt do that thing that confirms your alignment so I don't need to read you"

Your asking players to be capable of self-confirming themselves as innocent children upon day post.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
February 10 2014 14:50 GMT
#652
I think he did do that.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 10 2014 14:53 GMT
#653
On February 10 2014 23:50 kushm4sta wrote:
I think he did do that.


He didn't though. I remember researching it one game for a 'meta' case and he had written it in green and bod and none of the above at various times. You were in that game, though I don't remember which it was, and may be remembering me talking about that as a possibility.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
February 10 2014 14:55 GMT
#654
Hopeless, Coag is the one making it so the seal confirms him town. Right now if he does the seal he is never going to get lynched. There is so little content coming from him that the seal greatly outweighs any analysis that can be done on his posts.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
February 10 2014 15:00 GMT
#655
Ok so if grush did it that means there is a precedent but it is still illegal.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#656
I find it ridiculous to think that the game of mafia can just be reduced to people having some sort of "Town tell" that will virtually verify your alignment, taking all the actual mafia game out of the game.

Certainly it is not against the rules, however I would support the addition of it into the rules list.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 10 2014 19:03 GMT
#657
I find it amusing how emotionally split tlmafia is on the issue.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 10 2014 20:01 GMT
#658
On February 11 2014 04:03 Coagulation wrote:
I find it amusing how emotionally split tlmafia is on the issue.

Me too, actually.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 10 2014 20:37 GMT
#659
On February 11 2014 04:03 Coagulation wrote:
I find it amusing how emotionally split tlmafia is on the issue.

The hero this town needs.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 10 2014 23:26 GMT
#660
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