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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 18:14:15
February 08 2014 18:12 GMT
#601
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=116#2306

HOST DID THE SAME THING LIKE 5 POSTS AFTER ME LOL
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 08 2014 18:14 GMT
#602
Yes coag. AFTER the hammer dropped. Do you see the difference?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 18:17:42
February 08 2014 18:17 GMT
#603
no man. how is posting the lurker smiley indicative of anything other than "coag is at tlmafia" Can u guys like see into the 6th dimension??

RLLY?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 18:31:32
February 08 2014 18:21 GMT
#604
Just a note that this popcorn shit is dumb and does not deserve any warning or ban lol. I would also argue that not posting the seal does not deserve a warning either, as like Coag said it is not against the rules. Should it be against the rules? Yes. That's all I want to say since it was me who brought it up in the first place. Don't really want to spend more time here though as this ban thread tends to get stinky ^_^

EDIT: oh missed the fact that he was dead. no comment then
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 08 2014 18:25 GMT
#605
On February 09 2014 03:17 Coagulation wrote:
no man. how is posting the lurker smiley indicative of anything other than "coag is at tlmafia" Can u guys like see into the 6th dimension??

RLLY?

you were a player in the game. It was innocent, but its like how people like to say scumslips exist - subconsciously you could have been responding to something in thread that compelled you to post because it affected your team. In any case, I could care less if you literally posted a blank post with no content and never edited it. The fact that a dead player posted during a time that there were decisions to be made is a distraction and can be seen as manipulation of the game if you really twist your arguments and squint a little from 5 feet away from your monitor.

WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 08 2014 19:11 GMT
#606
This is dumb.
Popcorn is popcorn and always has been.

(Holy sheet I agree with coag lol)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 19:49:29
February 08 2014 19:27 GMT
#607
[edit]Lets Pretend that [/edit] a player posts massive case exposing the final scum player when it is 4v3 LYLO and 3 votes have yet to be placed. The two dead scumplayers happen to immediately following that case. No WoS, that had zero impact on the game whatsoever. None at all. No one would ever try to read anything into that action. No sir.

Seriously, there is a reason why you arent supposed to post after death.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 08 2014 19:35 GMT
#608
it wasnt immediately following that case. it was clearly immediately following grack correcting BCs spelling. the fuck are you making shit up for?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 08 2014 19:38 GMT
#609
I know coag, you didn't do anything game breaking. I was making a point that popcorn is not always just popcorn and in some cases could be game changing. You were not but I still think you should not have been posting at the time you did. It could have had an impact in the game.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 19:54:23
February 08 2014 19:52 GMT
#610
On February 08 2014 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
I think Coag needs to be warned/banned for this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=115#2296

It was created posthumous late into a cycle at a pivotal moment (read close to hammer in IML) during a mislynch.

Some I was talking to live at the time, were discussing the WIFOM of flipped scum Coag making this post and how it was preventing them from unvoting Grack.

Frankly, i think this constitutes cheating as per the posting after death clause.
Because it was only a popcorn... I am comfortable if the reprimand is only a warning; however, I think regardless of outcome this needs to be brought to attention.

Banning for popcorn? What has this thread come to?

EDIT: I love my popcorn and wouldn't ban anyone for it. WIFORM will always be WIFORM
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 08 2014 20:06 GMT
#611
On February 08 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 15:17 LSB wrote:
LXIV has ended
1 Game ban for Tehpoofter for inactivity
Warning for ZombiEzerg for inactivity (Reasoning, new player, was just 'trying out TL Mafia', I don't want to discourage him if he changes his mind)
Warning for raynpelikoneet for flame
Warning for Coagulation for not posting his seal

EDIT: Preparing myself for the mass Geript PMs


For those of us that didn't follow the gam, I.e. me can you explain the coag one?

In every game Coag was town, he posts his seal of townieness. People requested for him to post his seal or be lynched and he refused to. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=105#2092

I suggest for future hosts to explicitly ban Coag from posting his seal, or forcing Coag to post his seal early.

On February 08 2014 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are going to warn Coag for playing against his wincon (which really even wasn't, even if you consider him claiming mafia with not posting his seal - because the other target for lynch was mafia roleblocker) you should probably also warn other people for the same thing.

Playing against wincon is incredibly difficult to judge, and I'm not that big of a fan of bans that are murky. I want to warn him for more of Metagame Trickery.

This is a fair point (coag probably should have claimed mafia in some way or another and took not posting his seal), however I just want to make it clear that future games should have explicit considerations from preventing this from being an issue. You could also think of it this way, if coag posted his seal, it would be much harder for him to be lynched, so it was an unfair advantage for the mafia team.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
February 08 2014 20:13 GMT
#612
That is absolutely ridiculous if coag decides to play a different way you can't punish him for it. Maybe coag decided it was time to stop posting a seal to change the way he plays as town. Regardless your trying to punish people for playing "sub-optimally" which is something that should be never done. What's next banning people for being bad?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 08 2014 20:13 GMT
#613
Is this somehow different from Starsenses?
If not, how come it hasn't been brought up before?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 08 2014 20:23 GMT
#614
On February 09 2014 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Is this somehow different from Starsenses?
If not, how come it hasn't been brought up before?

because trying to ban someone because of not posting a particular thing is really stupid and no one has had the gall to suggest it before afaik.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 20:32:15
February 08 2014 20:31 GMT
#615
On February 09 2014 05:06 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:17 LSB wrote:
LXIV has ended
1 Game ban for Tehpoofter for inactivity
Warning for ZombiEzerg for inactivity (Reasoning, new player, was just 'trying out TL Mafia', I don't want to discourage him if he changes his mind)
Warning for raynpelikoneet for flame
Warning for Coagulation for not posting his seal

EDIT: Preparing myself for the mass Geript PMs


For those of us that didn't follow the gam, I.e. me can you explain the coag one?

In every game Coag was town, he posts his seal of townieness. People requested for him to post his seal or be lynched and he refused to. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=105#2092

I suggest for future hosts to explicitly ban Coag from posting his seal, or forcing Coag to post his seal early.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are going to warn Coag for playing against his wincon (which really even wasn't, even if you consider him claiming mafia with not posting his seal - because the other target for lynch was mafia roleblocker) you should probably also warn other people for the same thing.

Playing against wincon is incredibly difficult to judge, and I'm not that big of a fan of bans that are murky. I want to warn him for more of Metagame Trickery.

This is a fair point (coag probably should have claimed mafia in some way or another and took not posting his seal), however I just want to make it clear that future games should have explicit considerations from preventing this from being an issue. You could also think of it this way, if coag posted his seal, it would be much harder for him to be lynched, so it was an unfair advantage for the mafia team.


this is a lie. I have refused to post my badge while town MULTIPLE TIMES.

LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 08 2014 20:33 GMT
#616
On February 09 2014 05:31 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 05:06 LSB wrote:
On February 08 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:17 LSB wrote:
LXIV has ended
1 Game ban for Tehpoofter for inactivity
Warning for ZombiEzerg for inactivity (Reasoning, new player, was just 'trying out TL Mafia', I don't want to discourage him if he changes his mind)
Warning for raynpelikoneet for flame
Warning for Coagulation for not posting his seal

EDIT: Preparing myself for the mass Geript PMs


For those of us that didn't follow the gam, I.e. me can you explain the coag one?

In every game Coag was town, he posts his seal of townieness. People requested for him to post his seal or be lynched and he refused to. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=105#2092

I suggest for future hosts to explicitly ban Coag from posting his seal, or forcing Coag to post his seal early.

On February 08 2014 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are going to warn Coag for playing against his wincon (which really even wasn't, even if you consider him claiming mafia with not posting his seal - because the other target for lynch was mafia roleblocker) you should probably also warn other people for the same thing.

Playing against wincon is incredibly difficult to judge, and I'm not that big of a fan of bans that are murky. I want to warn him for more of Metagame Trickery.

This is a fair point (coag probably should have claimed mafia in some way or another and took not posting his seal), however I just want to make it clear that future games should have explicit considerations from preventing this from being an issue. You could also think of it this way, if coag posted his seal, it would be much harder for him to be lynched, so it was an unfair advantage for the mafia team.


this is a lie. I have refused to post my badge while town MULTIPLE TIMES.


mmkay if that is true I'll rescind my warning request. My recent experience with playing with coag is quite limited
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2014 20:35 GMT
#617
lol

The "i'll post X always as town and never as scum" has been going on for a while. gumshoe's STARSENSES, I believe Kenpachi's "I'm town", etc.

Seems kind of unfair to unload all that built in frustration to Coag right now, when it's not his fault that kind of behaviour was never punished nor frowned on all these years.

If you don't like it, which, to be honest, I don't like it that much either (other than some fun inside joke of course), then make it official somewhere, make everybody understand, etc. Post it in the rules, make a rally in your city, contact your senators, make a viral video, whatever.
THEN if someone does it ban/warn/whatever. Doing it now seems kind of harsh and inconsistent
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2014 20:37 GMT
#618
On February 09 2014 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is dumb.
Popcorn is popcorn and always has been.

(Holy sheet I agree with coag lol)

Wubbybumpkins is right.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 08 2014 20:37 GMT
#619
On February 09 2014 05:33 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 05:31 Coagulation wrote:
On February 09 2014 05:06 LSB wrote:
On February 08 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:17 LSB wrote:
LXIV has ended
1 Game ban for Tehpoofter for inactivity
Warning for ZombiEzerg for inactivity (Reasoning, new player, was just 'trying out TL Mafia', I don't want to discourage him if he changes his mind)
Warning for raynpelikoneet for flame
Warning for Coagulation for not posting his seal

EDIT: Preparing myself for the mass Geript PMs


For those of us that didn't follow the gam, I.e. me can you explain the coag one?

In every game Coag was town, he posts his seal of townieness. People requested for him to post his seal or be lynched and he refused to. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=105#2092

I suggest for future hosts to explicitly ban Coag from posting his seal, or forcing Coag to post his seal early.

On February 08 2014 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are going to warn Coag for playing against his wincon (which really even wasn't, even if you consider him claiming mafia with not posting his seal - because the other target for lynch was mafia roleblocker) you should probably also warn other people for the same thing.

Playing against wincon is incredibly difficult to judge, and I'm not that big of a fan of bans that are murky. I want to warn him for more of Metagame Trickery.

This is a fair point (coag probably should have claimed mafia in some way or another and took not posting his seal), however I just want to make it clear that future games should have explicit considerations from preventing this from being an issue. You could also think of it this way, if coag posted his seal, it would be much harder for him to be lynched, so it was an unfair advantage for the mafia team.


this is a lie. I have refused to post my badge while town MULTIPLE TIMES.


mmkay if that is true I'll rescind my warning request. My recent experience with playing with coag is quite limited


I also would then like to apologize. It just seemed like people were using it as the be all end all way to know your alignment, which I don't think is fun or fair.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 20:53:25
February 08 2014 20:52 GMT
#620
On February 09 2014 05:35 gonzaw wrote:
lol

The "i'll post X always as town and never as scum" has been going on for a while. gumshoe's STARSENSES, I believe Kenpachi's "I'm town", etc.

Seems kind of unfair to unload all that built in frustration to Coag right now, when it's not his fault that kind of behaviour was never punished nor frowned on all these years.

If you don't like it, which, to be honest, I don't like it that much either (other than some fun inside joke of course), then make it official somewhere, make everybody understand, etc. Post it in the rules, make a rally in your city, contact your senators, make a viral video, whatever.
THEN if someone does it ban/warn/whatever. Doing it now seems kind of harsh and inconsistent


I cant wait to see gmarshs reaction when you guys petition him to make claiming town in a mafia game ban worthy.
Its not the action thats broken its the game.
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